[Discuss-gnuradio] Intel Stellarton Configurable Processor (for SDR?)

2010-10-28 Thread Brian Padalino
I don't know where I've been, but this is the first time I've seen
anything about the announcement:


http://www.slashgear.com/intel-stellarton-atom-e600fpga-promises-flexible-embedded-devices-14102251/

While the Atom processor is not very powerful, pairing it with a full
fledged FPGA sounds promising for SDR that can work using fixed-point
algorithms.

Has anyone else heard about this processor?  Is anyone else interested in it?

I saw Altera is going to release Qsys which will support the
processor/FPGA design flow:


http://www.altera.com/b/embedded-fpga-design-flow.html?GSA_pos=1WT.oss_r=1WT.oss=qsys

What are other people's thoughts?

Brian

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[Discuss-gnuradio] gnuradio.org seems to be down

2010-10-28 Thread Martin DvH
gnuradio.org seems to be down


Martin


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Intel Stellarton Configurable Processor (for SDR?)

2010-10-28 Thread Philip Balister

On 10/28/2010 01:25 PM, Brian Padalino wrote:

I don't know where I've been, but this is the first time I've seen
anything about the announcement:

 
http://www.slashgear.com/intel-stellarton-atom-e600fpga-promises-flexible-embedded-devices-14102251/

While the Atom processor is not very powerful, pairing it with a full
fledged FPGA sounds promising for SDR that can work using fixed-point
algorithms.

Has anyone else heard about this processor?  Is anyone else interested in it?


I heard about it the other day from a friend involved in the video 
business. It is not clear from the press release if they expose IO's for 
connecting to data converters though. The combination is interesting for 
a number of applications, but for SDR you really want the data 
converters directly connected to the FPGA.


Philip



I saw Altera is going to release Qsys which will support the
processor/FPGA design flow:

 
http://www.altera.com/b/embedded-fpga-design-flow.html?GSA_pos=1WT.oss_r=1WT.oss=qsys

What are other people's thoughts?

Brian

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] How to hold a values from file source

2010-10-28 Thread Ed Criscuolo

On 10/27/10 1:23 PM, Marcus D. Leech wrote:

Looking at the flow-graph, it seems like the modulation bits are
running at the same rate as the carrier frequency, which won't work--not
   even slightly.

Generally in AM/ASK, the modulation frequency is *much* lower than the
carrier frequency, my gut is that you'd need at least several cycles
   of carrier between each bit.




In addition, the two sample rates flowing into the multiplier are
different.  The 47 kHz carrier has a sample rate of 3Meg, while the
digital data has a sample rate of 47K.  You will need to upsample
your data stream to the same sample rate as the carrier. Since there
isn't an integer ratio between the two rates, you'll have to use
the rational_resampler block.

@(^.^)@  Ed


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Problem of using UHD blocks as Tx Rx

2010-10-28 Thread Hongliang Zhang

Dear Marcus Leech,

Thanks very much for your response.

I use RFX2400 daughterboards and their TX/RX ports.

A attenuator is added between the transmitter and receiver boards now. And
to simplify the test, I use a constant source at the transmitter side.

Here is my GRC flow graph:

http://old.nabble.com/file/p30077180/flow%2Bgraph.jpg 

And here are the results I've observed from the scope:

http://old.nabble.com/file/p30077180/Result.jpg 

Why do I receive a sine wave when I transmit a constant?

Best wishes,
Hongliang




Marcus D. Leech wrote:
 
 On 10/27/2010 02:11 PM, Hongliang Zhang wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I made a test for UHD blocks today, and I found a problem as follows:

 I take two USRP2 boards for my test. One is used as transmiter and the
 other
 board is set to be receiver.And I use UHD Simple Sink and UHD Simple
 Source
 blocks for transmiting and receiving respectively. 

 sampling frequency = 195.312K (which is the minimum sampling frequncy of
 the
 system). 
 gain=0
 The transmitted signal is a AM modulated sine signal. 
 The frequency of orignal sine wave (the message signal) is 10K Hz.
 The frequency of carrier signal (center frequency for modulation at
 transmitter board) is 2.42 GHz, and I use the same frequency at the
 receiver
 board for demodulation.
 Amplitude of transmitted signal is 0.05.

 I connect the two boards together, and I add a scope to observe the
 period
 of the received demodulated signal. The problem is the period is about
 0.45, which means the frequency of the signal I received is not 10
 KHz,
 but about 2.2 KHz.

 I have used the same external reference clock and PPS signal for both of
 the
 boards, so I think they are set up correctly. Why do I get a received
 signal
 with different frequency from what I transmit? 

 Does anyone meet the similar problem before? How may I solve the problem?

 Thanks so much for every help and suggestions in advance.

 Best regards,
 Hongliang



   
 What daughterboards are you using?
 
 Can you share your (GRC) flow-graphs with us--makes it easier to spot
 problems.
 
 I hope that you're using an attenuator between the transmitter side and
 receiver side.
 
 My guess is that there's a sample-rate issue somewhere on the receive
 side, like the scope sink
   hasn't been told the correct sample rate, so it's displaying
 incorrectly, etc.
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Marcus Leech
 Principal Investigator
 Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
 http://www.sbrac.org
 
 
 
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[Discuss-gnuradio] FM-Preemph block does nothing..

2010-10-28 Thread Jasper Kanbier
The FM-Demphasis block seems to work, but FM Preemphasis does  nothing to
the frequency response..looks broken to me..

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] (no subject)

2010-10-28 Thread Kunal Kandekar
It might be a $PYTHONPATH issue in that case... Have you set your PYTHONPATH
environment variable to include the path to where your GNU Radio modules are
installed? e.g. when I run env, the following line is included in the output
(I'm using a Mac):

PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages:



2010/10/27 ömer günay gunay_omer_7...@hotmail.com

  Thanks for your suggestion Kunal, but it didn't not work. I got an error
-ModuleError: cannot import name my_block

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] FM-Preemph block does nothing..

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Blossom
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 06:13:12PM +0200, Jasper Kanbier wrote:
 The FM-Demphasis block seems to work, but FM Preemphasis does  nothing to
 the frequency response..looks broken to me..
 

OK.  Please fix.

Eric

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RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] FM-Preemph block does nothing..

2010-10-28 Thread Jasper Kanbier
I will try as soon as I know the right transfer funtion of the filter.

Gr Jasper

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Eric Blossom [mailto:e...@comsec.com] 
Verzonden: donderdag 28 oktober 2010 21:50
Aan: Jasper Kanbier
CC: Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] FM-Preemph block does nothing..

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 06:13:12PM +0200, Jasper Kanbier wrote:
 The FM-Demphasis block seems to work, but FM Preemphasis does  nothing to
 the frequency response..looks broken to me..
 

OK.  Please fix.

Eric



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[Discuss-gnuradio] Leds on XCVR2450 transceiver

2010-10-28 Thread Jorge Miguel
HI,

I wonder if the red Leds of the XCVR2450 have any meaning.

Many thanks,
Jorge
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Problem in using trellis Error correction en- and decoder

2010-10-28 Thread Francisco Llaryora
Hello Achilleas Anastasopoulos

Sorry for my delay.

Well,I try to start the example (interference_cancellation.grc) but do
not succeed.
I put the  trotle and then the warning disappears, but the error not.

I installed the gnuradio by synaptic.
in ubuntu, i think the Program Files directory is /usr/share/.
Prefix = /usr/share/gnuradio/

Now it's works :)

Well, Now we know that the example works (with a little modifications).
I have fear of being wrong with regard to the functioning of the FSM.
 How we operate my trellis?
I see that my file stop when i use files. why?
(my file= http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3435/pantallazoxe.png)

I'm area of knowledge is not precisely electronics/telecommunications.
 i'm programmer, but i'm here. haha
i read about TCM, and CC (the theory).

Which finite state machine allows me to copy a file?
where I can get such information?

Thanks!!

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Problem of using UHD blocks as Tx Rx

2010-10-28 Thread Jason Abele
 Why do I receive a sine wave when I transmit a constant?

Probably because the 100MHz reference clocks of your two USRP2s are
slightly different

Here are a few suggestions for being sure that you are locking to your
10MHz reference clock:

If you have not modified the generated python code from your GRC
flowgraph, then you are definitely not locked to refclock.  The
easiest way to fix this would be:
Use a multi-usrp sink and source from the UHD categorey
Set the number of motherboards and channels to 1 each
Use the Sync to Unknow PPS option

I know that is a strange interface, we will put an option to use
external ref clock in an update coming soon to git repositories near
you.

Finally, be sure your refclock meets the power/amplitude requirements
shown here:
http://www.ettus.com/uhd_docs/manual/html/usrp2.html#ref-clock-10mhz
   +5dBm to +20dBm (roughly 1Vpp to 5Vpp)

Jason

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[Discuss-gnuradio] [SOLVED] Re: multi usrp, 1 odd channel, HW problem?

2010-10-28 Thread Steven Clark
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Steven Clark steven.p.cl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all-

 I have a multi-usrp setup with 2 USRP 1s and 4 WBX daughtercards. I have
 performed the clock synching described here:
 http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/1/MultiUsrp

 I'm doing 4-channel receive, using a power splitter to send the same CW
 signal into all 4 d'cards, and tuning them all identically.

 3 of the 4 channels are nicely phase-locked. The 4th seems a little...off.

 ClockMasterUSRP (Serial #5821): Side A: red channel
 ClockMasterUSRP (Serial #5821): Side B: green channel
 ClockSlaveUSRP (Serial #2087): Side A: blue channel
 ClockSlaveUSRP (Serial #2087): Side B: black channel  --- problem
 with this guy

 Please see these 3 images to see the problem:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/steven.p.clark/MultiUsrpGlitches?feat=directlink

 You can see the problem in both the frequency domain, and in the time
 domain.

 I tried swapping daughtercards around, and the problem is not tied to any
 one daughtercard, but rather to slave USRP side B.

 Any idea what could be causing this? Shouldn't the same clock be going to
 both sides of the USRP? (why does blue look fine, but black does not?)

 -Steven


Solvedsee if you can spot the problem:

self.usrp_master.tune(0, self.wbx0_subdev, freq)
self.usrp_master.tune(1, self.wbx1_subdev, freq)
self.usrp_slave.tune(0, self.wbx2_subdev, freq)
self.usrp_slave.tune(0, self.wbx3_subdev, freq)

/facepalm

(The final line's 0 should be a 1. the daughtercards were getting tuned
properly, but the 4th DDC was not). Everything looks fine now. Sorry for
suspecting the hardware, Matt!

-Steven
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gnuradio.org seems to be down

2010-10-28 Thread Josh Blum

*bump*

On 10/28/2010 06:32 AM, Martin DvH wrote:

gnuradio.org seems to be down


Martin


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] OS X 10.6, x86-64 built from GIT fails at 'make check'

2010-10-28 Thread Michael Dickens
The issue is in 
gnuradio-core/src/filter/qa_gri_fir_filter_with_buffer_ccc.cc.  The ERR_DELTA 
is set to 1e-5, which for some reason is too tight for OSX (at least 10.6.4 
x86_64); when I change this value to 1e-4, the test passes.  Since gnuradio.org 
is down, I can't check to see if this value or file was changed recently. - MLD


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gnuradio.org seems to be down

2010-10-28 Thread Tom Rondeau
The site is back up.

Tom


On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Josh Blum j...@joshknows.com wrote:
 *bump*

 On 10/28/2010 06:32 AM, Martin DvH wrote:

 gnuradio.org seems to be down


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[Discuss-gnuradio] Does GNUradio have an envelope detector block?

2010-10-28 Thread songsong gee
Now I'm trying to build an ASK demodulator. I use GRC.

However, I REALLY REALLY couldn't find an envelope detector.

Does GNUradio have an envelope detector block?

Or, do I have to make that one?
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Does GNUradio have an envelope detector block?

2010-10-28 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 10/28/2010 10:50 PM, songsong gee wrote:
 Now I'm trying to build an ASK demodulator. I use GRC.

 However, I REALLY REALLY couldn't find an envelope detector.

 Does GNUradio have an envelope detector block?

 Or, do I have to make that one?
   
The RMS block will basically do what you want, you can play with the
alpha parameter to
  give you control over the low-pass corner frequency of the envelope
detection.




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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Problem of using UHD blocks as Tx Rx

2010-10-28 Thread Josh Blum




I know that is a strange interface, we will put an option to use
external ref clock in an update coming soon to git repositories near
you.


OK, i pushed that change. Update your uhd and gr-uhd.

Also, front panel led E is an indicator of external ref lock:
http://www.ettus.com/uhd_docs/manual/html/usrp2.html#front-panel-leds

-Josh


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Leds on XCVR2450 transceiver

2010-10-28 Thread Matt Ettus
Power

Jorge Miguel jmig...@gmail.com wrote:

HI,

I wonder if the red Leds of the XCVR2450 have any meaning.

Many thanks,
Jorge

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[Discuss-gnuradio] Someone please check my ASK de/modulator.

2010-10-28 Thread songsong gee
I've just made AKS modulator and demodulator

Currently, however, I couldn't use USRP. So I cannot make sure that it
really works

And also, I'm new to GNUradio and USRP!

These are flow graphs made by GRC, and some test input file sources. (with
lots of 0x00's and 0xFF's)

http://goo.gl/sx5m (a tar.gz file)

Please test my program and give me helpful and useful advices. :)
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