Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Bricking and recovery of N210
Thanks a lot for the nice answer, Josh. 2011/8/27 Josh Blum j...@ettus.com Please send me also the n210.bit file. I experience the similar problem as was presented in: [Discuss-gnuradio] Getting USRP N210 running http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/2010-12/msg00222.html The safe mode by pressing J2 doesn't work. So I want to try re-program the FPGA. The bit and bin files for Nseries devices can be found in the images package: http://code.ettus.com/redmine/ettus/projects/uhd/wiki BTW: How can I generate the .bit file myself using the FPGA source code. I'm a Layman to FPGA. :) Bit and bin files are generated by the same process. See this Makefile for commands to run to generate FPGA images: http://code.ettus.com/redmine/ettus/projects/uhd/repository/revisions/master/entry/images/Makefile Happy Hacking! -Josh ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Bricking and recovery of N210
Hi Nick, Please send me also the n210.bit file. I experience the similar problem as was presented in: [Discuss-gnuradio] Getting USRP N210 running http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/2010-12/msg00222.html The safe mode by pressing J2 doesn't work. So I want to try re-program the FPGA. BTW: How can I generate the .bit file myself using the FPGA source code. I'm a Layman to FPGA. :) Bests, Hanwen 2011/4/20 Nick Foster n...@ettus.com On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 10:13 +1000, Vladimir Negnevitsky wrote: Hi folks, We've recently received an N210. I updated the firmware successfully a few times, but then usrp_n2xx_net_burner.py crashed. I immediately tried rewriting the image, and all seemed to go fine, however both default and backup booting (holding S2 during powerup) failed. I directly programmed the FPGA over JTAG using iMPACT and a Xilinx platform cable, and the firmware loaded correctly. At this point I ran usrp_n2xx_net_burner.py twice with both the default and the --overwrite-safe options. Rebooting into both the default and safe images worked fine and FLASH burns have worked since then. This is something that's strangely come up three times this week on the list, under similar circumstances, despite several months of (mostly) trouble-free updates. We've been so far unable to replicate it here or deduce why it's happening, and I've got an N210 here which I've been continuously updating for several hours without incident. Either it's cosmic rays, or something else we haven't found yet. Can you please send me the following information: * OS and version * UHD host code version * FPGA/firmware versions * Ethernet card model * Any hub or switch in between the PC and the N210? * What exactly was the behavior of the net burner app? Did it crash, or stall? What arguments did you invoke it with? I have a feeling I was very lucky. Since I only reprogrammed the FPGA, it would have searched the FLASH for working ZPU firmware, which must have been intact. My question is, is there any technique to recover the N210 in the event that both the FPGA and ZPU firmware are corrupt? I've seen it alluded to in old posts where the CPU and FPGA firmware were accidentally written into each other's locations. The technique would be very useful if a similar crash happens again and it *does* overwrite the CPU firmware this time. I'd also like to hear others' success (or failure) stories. You're right about the mechanism of recovery. In the future, if the updater crashes, locks up, or otherwise behaves anomalously, do the following before rebooting: Re-load the safe firmware and FPGA image with the --overwrite-safe option of the N210 firmware updater (NEVER USE THIS OPTION OTHERWISE). Use the latest N210 images from the UHD download site for this step. It should then be safe to reboot. For future reference, if you (or anyone else) manage to brick your N210 using the firmware updater, we'll be happy to issue an RMA to have it recovered here. If you'd like to recover it yourself, it's really not that hard, provided you have a Xilinx Platform JTAG cable and a USB to RS232 (3.3V logic level ONLY) adapter. Here's how to bootstrap it: 1. JTAG program FPGA with n210.bit (email me for it, it's just the .bin file with a header, but iMPACT requires it). The FPGA bootloader will start and won't find software, so it falls back to an Intel HEX prompt. If your firmware hasn't been erased, it will boot the firmware, the LEDs on the front panel will go through their startup sequence, and you can skip step 2. 2. Build the N210 firmware from the latest UHD master (or I can email it to you). Connect the USB-RS232 adapter (be SURE it's 3.3V logic level output!) to J305 -- the silkscreen labels the pinout. Run the program firmware/zpu/bin/uart_ihex_ram_loader.py path-to-.IHX-file. The IHX file will be named usrp2p_txrx_uhd.ihx. The RAM loader should say USRP2 + found and start loading. When it finishes, it will load the program. 3. At this point the device is up and running like a regular USRP N210, and you should be able to write firmware and FPGA images to it. Use the --overwrite-safe option of the N210 firmware update program to write safe FPGA and firmware images first, then load production FPGA and firmware images. Use the latest N210 images from the UHD download site. After loading all four images, go ahead and reset the device. It should now be operating normally. We apologize for any inconvenience, and we'll find an explanation for the issue as soon as possible. --n Best regards, and thanks for your help. Vlad ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Bricking and recovery of N210
Please send me also the n210.bit file. I experience the similar problem as was presented in: [Discuss-gnuradio] Getting USRP N210 running http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/2010-12/msg00222.html The safe mode by pressing J2 doesn't work. So I want to try re-program the FPGA. The bit and bin files for Nseries devices can be found in the images package: http://code.ettus.com/redmine/ettus/projects/uhd/wiki BTW: How can I generate the .bit file myself using the FPGA source code. I'm a Layman to FPGA. :) Bit and bin files are generated by the same process. See this Makefile for commands to run to generate FPGA images: http://code.ettus.com/redmine/ettus/projects/uhd/repository/revisions/master/entry/images/Makefile Happy Hacking! -Josh ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Bricking and recovery of N210
Hi folks, Firstly, thanks very much for your response Nick - you've answered my main question on how to recover a completely bricked N210 in future. There are two reasons why I'm hesitant to blame UHD: I ran the update while I was (accidentally but foolishly!) streaming data from the USRP, albeit at its minimum rate; and we have modified the UHD host, FPGA and ZPU firmware. I'm pretty sure the fault was at least partially due to network congestion from the streaming, or the USRP being unable to do two things at once, so I'm hesitant to blame any part of the 'vanilla' UHD. I also can't rule out a problem with our firmware/bitstream, though updates have been 100% successful since. With this in mind, the details are: OS: Windows XP SP2 32-bit UHD: modified version, compiled in WinXP/MSVC 10 from source obtained through git on 22 Feb 2011. FPGA/Firmware: as above; firmware compiled in Ubuntu 10.10, FPGA bitstream compiled in Xilinx ISE 12.4 Windows and Linux. The same host files and firmware have worked fine before and since. I have tested our host modifications in Linux with both standalone UHD and Gnuradio, and Windows with standalone UHD and LabVIEW (using a custom C interface to the UHD library). Ethernet card: not available now, I can obtain info if necessary Network environment: when the problem occurred the N210 was directly connected to the host PC. Since recovery the N210 is on a gigabit LAN with no problems. Circumstances of error: Our N210 has the LFRX and LFTX. I had been streaming at the minimum rate (~200 ksps) when I ran: 'python usrp_n2xx_net_burner.py --fw=firmware_location --fpga=bitstream_location' . No other options were enabled. The program hung during writing of the FPGA image, and I realised that streaming was still on and meaningful data was still being received. I forcibly closed the streaming program, left the burner alone for several minutes then ctrl-c'ed out. There were several traceback messages which I unfortunately did not record. I immediately reran the same command, and it appeared to succeed. I rebooted and no lights at all came on except the yellow Ethernet light, which took a few seconds to switch on - I tried safe mode as well, with the same result. I connected a Xilinx platform cable and read the FPGA status bits from within iMPACT; I did not record them but I recall that all the programming-related indicator bits were off, as though the FPGA was not being programmed at all upon power-up. The CRC error indicator bits were also off. I then programmed the FPGA with a .bit file, as you described, at which point it booted successfully - all the programming indicator bits had also switched on. I reran usrp_n2xx_net_burner as above, however the problem was still present after rebooting. I tried this several times with different combinations of FPGA/firmware images, including the most recent vanilla UHD - none worked. I then ran usrp_n2xx_net_burner again with the --overwrite-safe flag and my own images; after rebooting all was well. I do not understand why the FPGA did not seem to be programmed by the flash until the safe image was re-burnt; I have not studied the N210 schematics or the FPGA/flash chip datasheets so I don't understand how the FPGA boots in detail. I'm still debugging our firmware/bitstream, so I've been flashing the N210 regularly --- I'm careful to avoid simultaneous streaming and network congestion, and the problem has not recurred. I'm a bit afraid to recreate the problem, but if it occurs again I'll try to establish exactly what combination of factors causes it. For the time being, however, I'll chalk it up to the simultaneous streaming and ctrl-c'ing (and cosmic rays of course!). Thank you again for the detailed recovery guide. Since we have the host, firmware and FPGA toolchains running, I have access to .bit and .ihx files for our design. Also, I noticed that iMPACT offered to write the flash by writing a temporary bitstream to the FPGA to facilitate JTAG-flash communication, however it seemed to need a lot of configuration settings. Out of curiosity, is this feasible? ( It would be useful to rewrite the flash in one go from iMPACT - not that I dislike RS232 or anything :) ) Best regards, sorry about the wall of text. Hope the detail helps. Vlad -- Forwarded message -- From: Nick Foster n...@ettus.com Date: 20 April 2011 10:29 Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Bricking and recovery of N210 To: Vladimir Negnevitsky vneg...@gmail.com Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 10:13 +1000, Vladimir Negnevitsky wrote: Hi folks, We've recently received an N210. I updated the firmware successfully a few times, but then usrp_n2xx_net_burner.py crashed. I immediately tried rewriting the image, and all seemed to go fine, however both default and backup booting (holding S2 during powerup) failed. I directly programmed the FPGA over JTAG using iMPACT and a Xilinx platform cable, and the firmware loaded correctly
[Discuss-gnuradio] Bricking and recovery of N210
Hi folks, We've recently received an N210. I updated the firmware successfully a few times, but then usrp_n2xx_net_burner.py crashed. I immediately tried rewriting the image, and all seemed to go fine, however both default and backup booting (holding S2 during powerup) failed. I directly programmed the FPGA over JTAG using iMPACT and a Xilinx platform cable, and the firmware loaded correctly. At this point I ran usrp_n2xx_net_burner.py twice with both the default and the --overwrite-safe options. Rebooting into both the default and safe images worked fine and FLASH burns have worked since then. I have a feeling I was very lucky. Since I only reprogrammed the FPGA, it would have searched the FLASH for working ZPU firmware, which must have been intact. My question is, is there any technique to recover the N210 in the event that both the FPGA and ZPU firmware are corrupt? I've seen it alluded to in old posts where the CPU and FPGA firmware were accidentally written into each other's locations. The technique would be very useful if a similar crash happens again and it *does* overwrite the CPU firmware this time. I'd also like to hear others' success (or failure) stories. Best regards, and thanks for your help. Vlad ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Bricking and recovery of N210
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 10:13 +1000, Vladimir Negnevitsky wrote: Hi folks, We've recently received an N210. I updated the firmware successfully a few times, but then usrp_n2xx_net_burner.py crashed. I immediately tried rewriting the image, and all seemed to go fine, however both default and backup booting (holding S2 during powerup) failed. I directly programmed the FPGA over JTAG using iMPACT and a Xilinx platform cable, and the firmware loaded correctly. At this point I ran usrp_n2xx_net_burner.py twice with both the default and the --overwrite-safe options. Rebooting into both the default and safe images worked fine and FLASH burns have worked since then. This is something that's strangely come up three times this week on the list, under similar circumstances, despite several months of (mostly) trouble-free updates. We've been so far unable to replicate it here or deduce why it's happening, and I've got an N210 here which I've been continuously updating for several hours without incident. Either it's cosmic rays, or something else we haven't found yet. Can you please send me the following information: * OS and version * UHD host code version * FPGA/firmware versions * Ethernet card model * Any hub or switch in between the PC and the N210? * What exactly was the behavior of the net burner app? Did it crash, or stall? What arguments did you invoke it with? I have a feeling I was very lucky. Since I only reprogrammed the FPGA, it would have searched the FLASH for working ZPU firmware, which must have been intact. My question is, is there any technique to recover the N210 in the event that both the FPGA and ZPU firmware are corrupt? I've seen it alluded to in old posts where the CPU and FPGA firmware were accidentally written into each other's locations. The technique would be very useful if a similar crash happens again and it *does* overwrite the CPU firmware this time. I'd also like to hear others' success (or failure) stories. You're right about the mechanism of recovery. In the future, if the updater crashes, locks up, or otherwise behaves anomalously, do the following before rebooting: Re-load the safe firmware and FPGA image with the --overwrite-safe option of the N210 firmware updater (NEVER USE THIS OPTION OTHERWISE). Use the latest N210 images from the UHD download site for this step. It should then be safe to reboot. For future reference, if you (or anyone else) manage to brick your N210 using the firmware updater, we'll be happy to issue an RMA to have it recovered here. If you'd like to recover it yourself, it's really not that hard, provided you have a Xilinx Platform JTAG cable and a USB to RS232 (3.3V logic level ONLY) adapter. Here's how to bootstrap it: 1. JTAG program FPGA with n210.bit (email me for it, it's just the .bin file with a header, but iMPACT requires it). The FPGA bootloader will start and won't find software, so it falls back to an Intel HEX prompt. If your firmware hasn't been erased, it will boot the firmware, the LEDs on the front panel will go through their startup sequence, and you can skip step 2. 2. Build the N210 firmware from the latest UHD master (or I can email it to you). Connect the USB-RS232 adapter (be SURE it's 3.3V logic level output!) to J305 -- the silkscreen labels the pinout. Run the program firmware/zpu/bin/uart_ihex_ram_loader.py path-to-.IHX-file. The IHX file will be named usrp2p_txrx_uhd.ihx. The RAM loader should say USRP2 + found and start loading. When it finishes, it will load the program. 3. At this point the device is up and running like a regular USRP N210, and you should be able to write firmware and FPGA images to it. Use the --overwrite-safe option of the N210 firmware update program to write safe FPGA and firmware images first, then load production FPGA and firmware images. Use the latest N210 images from the UHD download site. After loading all four images, go ahead and reset the device. It should now be operating normally. We apologize for any inconvenience, and we'll find an explanation for the issue as soon as possible. --n Best regards, and thanks for your help. Vlad ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
