[Discuss-gnuradio] Carrier frequency mismatching?

2010-11-19 Thread Songsong Gee
I use USRP sink and source and set frequency with 2.6 GHz
When I run a flow graph, I see like below:
==
A: Flex 2400 Tx MIMO B
r.baseband_frequency = 260400.0
r.dxc_frequency = -400.0
r.residual_frequency = 0.0
r.inverted = False

A: Flex 2400 Rx MIMO B
r.baseband_frequency = 259600.0
r.dxc_frequency = -400.0
r.residual_frequency = 0.0
r.inverted = False
===
Both of baseband frequency are near 2.6 G, but they do not match up
Can it be problmeatic for communicating each other?
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Carrier frequency mismatching?

2010-11-19 Thread Eric Blossom
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 05:17:53PM +0900, Songsong Gee wrote:
 I use USRP sink and source and set frequency with 2.6 GHz
 When I run a flow graph, I see like below:
 ==
 A: Flex 2400 Tx MIMO B
 r.baseband_frequency = 260400.0
 r.dxc_frequency = -400.0
 r.residual_frequency = 0.0
 r.inverted = False
 
 A: Flex 2400 Rx MIMO B
 r.baseband_frequency = 259600.0
 r.dxc_frequency = -400.0
 r.residual_frequency = 0.0
 r.inverted = False
 ===
 Both of baseband frequency are near 2.6 G, but they do not match up
 Can it be problmeatic for communicating each other?

The actual frequencies on the air will be 2.6 G +/- oscillator tolerance.

In the Tx case, the LO is set 4MHz higher than the target, and the
DUC is used to adjust the baseband -4MHz.

In the Rx case the LO is set 4MHz lower than the target, and the DDC
is used to move the digitized IF signal 4MHz lower prior to decimating.

This is easy to confirm with a siggen and a spectrum analyzer.

Eric

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Carrier frequency mismatching?

2010-11-19 Thread Songsong Gee
I understan what you told me...
Then... however, why they have same sign?
One is for up conversion, and the other is for down conversion
they might have opposite signs.
one is MINUS 4 MHz, and the other is PLUS 4 MHz

and one another...
They meet in frequency by DXC,
but, in my opinion, they are basically different in baseband frequency...
I really really cannot understand this magic :(

2010/11/19 Eric Blossom e...@comsec.com

 On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 05:17:53PM +0900, Songsong Gee wrote:
  I use USRP sink and source and set frequency with 2.6 GHz
  When I run a flow graph, I see like below:
  ==
  A: Flex 2400 Tx MIMO B
  r.baseband_frequency = 260400.0
  r.dxc_frequency = -400.0
  r.residual_frequency = 0.0
  r.inverted = False
 
  A: Flex 2400 Rx MIMO B
  r.baseband_frequency = 259600.0
  r.dxc_frequency = -400.0
  r.residual_frequency = 0.0
  r.inverted = False
  ===
  Both of baseband frequency are near 2.6 G, but they do not match up
  Can it be problmeatic for communicating each other?

 The actual frequencies on the air will be 2.6 G +/- oscillator tolerance.

 In the Tx case, the LO is set 4MHz higher than the target, and the
 DUC is used to adjust the baseband -4MHz.

 In the Rx case the LO is set 4MHz lower than the target, and the DDC
 is used to move the digitized IF signal 4MHz lower prior to decimating.

 This is easy to confirm with a siggen and a spectrum analyzer.

 Eric

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Carrier frequency mismatching?

2010-11-19 Thread Eric Blossom
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:19:04PM +0900, Songsong Gee wrote:
 I understan what you told me...
 Then... however, why they have same sign?
 One is for up conversion, and the other is for down conversion
 they might have opposite signs.
 one is MINUS 4 MHz, and the other is PLUS 4 MHz
 
 and one another...
 They meet in frequency by DXC,
 but, in my opinion, they are basically different in baseband frequency...
 I really really cannot understand this magic :(

Try drawing a picture...

Eric


 2010/11/19 Eric Blossom e...@comsec.com
 
  On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 05:17:53PM +0900, Songsong Gee wrote:
   I use USRP sink and source and set frequency with 2.6 GHz
   When I run a flow graph, I see like below:
   ==
   A: Flex 2400 Tx MIMO B
   r.baseband_frequency = 260400.0
   r.dxc_frequency = -400.0
   r.residual_frequency = 0.0
   r.inverted = False
  
   A: Flex 2400 Rx MIMO B
   r.baseband_frequency = 259600.0
   r.dxc_frequency = -400.0
   r.residual_frequency = 0.0
   r.inverted = False
   ===
   Both of baseband frequency are near 2.6 G, but they do not match up
   Can it be problmeatic for communicating each other?
 
  The actual frequencies on the air will be 2.6 G +/- oscillator tolerance.
 
  In the Tx case, the LO is set 4MHz higher than the target, and the
  DUC is used to adjust the baseband -4MHz.
 
  In the Rx case the LO is set 4MHz lower than the target, and the DDC
  is used to move the digitized IF signal 4MHz lower prior to decimating.
 
  This is easy to confirm with a siggen and a spectrum analyzer.
 
  Eric

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