Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Contribution: ofdm system

2007-10-22 Thread Lin HUANG
Hello all,

Our team also implemented a MIMO-OFDM platform in the past few months. The
system parameters are like LTE. But it is not fully in GNU Radio framework,
so it's not suitable to be imported. One paper introducing this platform
will be published in SDR07 Tech Conference. Unfortunately I cannot go to
attend this conference. :( Otherwise maybe I could meet Eric or Ettus to
thank you for such good USRP and GNU RADIO.

Best wishes
HUANG Lin

2007/10/19, Dominik Auras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hello,
>
> In the last months, we have developed an ofdm system using your gnuradio
> architecture as part of a research on dynamic resource allocation. Now we
> like to contribute parts of our code to the gnuradio project. We think
> that
> it will be useful to you since it partially employs more advanced
> techniques
> than in your example. If you like it, I suggest to add it as an
> alternative
> ofdm system.
>
> We are using this system on USRPs at revision 4 with daughterboards
> RFX2400.
> It is tested, stable and has a good performance in BER and SNR. All
> hierarchical blocks are using the new style blocks.
>
> Here are some facts about the receiver and transmitter:
>
> - preamble based timing synchronization
> The modified Schmidl & Cox algorithm is used to position the sampling
> window
> at the first preamble. Only coarse timing synchronization is done.
>
> - preamble based frequency offset synchronization
> Before FFT, the frequency offset, divided into a fractional part and an
> integer part, will be estimated based on the S&C preamble (also used for
> timing sync) and a second preamble. Therefore both fine and coarse
> frequency
> offset estimation is performed.
>
> - preamble based channel estimation
> The second preamble, used for frequency offset estimation, will be
> exploited
> to give an estimate of the current channel state. The fine timing
> synchronization is absorbed into the channel transfer function (as phase
> rotation), i.e. compensated for at this place.
>
> - pilot tone based sampling frequency offset estimation
> We insert 8 pilot tones (or subcarriers) to ofdm data blocks. The sampling
> frequency offset (as phase rotation) and the residual carrier frequency
> offset is estimated and compensated for. Without SFO compensation, we
> observed a severe drop of SNIR using the USRPs, especially between two
> different charges we bought. The current algorithm acquires and tracks the
> SFO and RCFO within an ofdm frame.
>
> - flexible channel estimator
> The estimator block can easily use several ofdm blocks to estimate the
> channel transfer function. It will output both the inverse ctf to be fed
> to
> the equalizer and the ctf. It uses a simple zero-forcing criteria. The
> known
> blocks' positions within the ofdm frame can be freely chosen. For example,
> we used a midamble in our experiments to mitigate some special problems.
>
> - flexible mapper/demapper
> We created a new ofdm mapper/demapper that allows to assign different
> signal
> constellations on different subcarriers. This can be either static or
> dynamically changed.
>
> Please let me know if you want to have more details.
>
> If you accept our contribution, I will port the system to use your packet
> utils and to have it behave like your systems. Please note that the system
> has a modular design and uses simple gnuradio blocks if possible and
> useful.
>
> Additionally, I personally want to thank you for your great work at the
> gnuradio project. It is definitely one of the best SDR environments.
>
> Greetings,
> Dominik Auras
>
> Chair of Theoretical Information Technology
> RWTH Aachen University
> http://www.ti.rwth-aachen.de
>
>
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Contribution: ofdm system

2007-10-21 Thread Johnathan Corgan
Dominik Auras wrote:

> No, it is not published. And I have got the permission to publish parts of
> the code. I.e. if you want to see the code, I will need to move the needed
> parts into a new project/makefile structure. As we don't use your normal
> packet transmission scheme (ofdm mod/demod in python etc.), I also need to
> put the code into that framework.
> 
> So, as you say that there is chance that you will accept it, I will start to
> move the code. It will take me some time, since I am going to do this after
> work and studies.

Understood, and thanks again.

> | All of the host code in GNU Radio is copyrighted by FSF, so 
> | if we do incorporate it, there is a copyright assignment 
> | process you'll have to go through.
> I think this will be possible.
> 
> Any preferences for the system? Should it use a similar framework as your
> ofdm example? Directory outside the gnuradio tree, or inside the
> gnuradio-examples directory?

For now, if you can create a module tree in the format of the
"howto-write-a-block" code, that will make it easiest for us to compile
and evaluate.  This module allows you to create C++ blocks, Python
hierarchical blocks, generic Python helper code, executable python
scripts, and QA code, in one convenient build tree.  Each of those can
then be installed into all the right system locations to appear as part
of the GNU Radio framework. (Let me know offline if you want help doing
this.)

This will also let you maintain whatever existing partition you've made
between the modulator, packetizer, etc., and not force you to
re-implement that in our packet framework.  Once we get a chance to look
at it, we can see how we might use it as-is or refactor it to fit in
with the way things are done currently.  Or, perhaps you're doing some
things a better way and we'll change our stuff to match.

Regarding licensing, the best way to do it is to initially publish this
separate module tree under your own copyright with the GPLv3 license for
everything.  That way everyone here on the list can evaluate it and
comment.  If we decide to incorporate it into GNU Radio, then we can do
the copyright assignment paperwork, etc.

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Contribution: ofdm system

2007-10-21 Thread Dominik Auras
Hi,

| Is it published anywhere else?
No, it is not published. And I have got the permission to publish parts of
the code. I.e. if you want to see the code, I will need to move the needed
parts into a new project/makefile structure. As we don't use your normal
packet transmission scheme (ofdm mod/demod in python etc.), I also need to
put the code into that framework.

So, as you say that there is chance that you will accept it, I will start to
move the code. It will take me some time, since I am going to do this after
work and studies.

| All of the host code in GNU Radio is copyrighted by FSF, so 
| if we do incorporate it, there is a copyright assignment 
| process you'll have to go through.
I think this will be possible.

Any preferences for the system? Should it use a similar framework as your
ofdm example? Directory outside the gnuradio tree, or inside the
gnuradio-examples directory?

Greetings,
Dominik


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Contribution: ofdm system

2007-10-19 Thread Johnathan Corgan
Dominik Auras wrote:

> In the last months, we have developed an ofdm system using your gnuradio
> architecture as part of a research on dynamic resource allocation. Now we
> like to contribute parts of our code to the gnuradio project. We think that
> it will be useful to you since it partially employs more advanced techniques
> than in your example. If you like it, I suggest to add it as an alternative
> ofdm system.

Dominik-

You may have already heard privately from Eric, but yes, we'd like to
see your code for review and possible incorporation into the project.

Is it published anywhere else?

All of the host code in GNU Radio is copyrighted by FSF, so if we do
incorporate it, there is a copyright assignment process you'll have to
go through.

Thanks for offering it.  While we already have an in-progress OFDM
implementation, having multiple options is good, and it may even be
possible to merge implementations.

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[Discuss-gnuradio] Contribution: ofdm system

2007-10-18 Thread Dominik Auras
Hello,

In the last months, we have developed an ofdm system using your gnuradio
architecture as part of a research on dynamic resource allocation. Now we
like to contribute parts of our code to the gnuradio project. We think that
it will be useful to you since it partially employs more advanced techniques
than in your example. If you like it, I suggest to add it as an alternative
ofdm system.

We are using this system on USRPs at revision 4 with daughterboards RFX2400.
It is tested, stable and has a good performance in BER and SNR. All
hierarchical blocks are using the new style blocks.

Here are some facts about the receiver and transmitter:

- preamble based timing synchronization
The modified Schmidl & Cox algorithm is used to position the sampling window
at the first preamble. Only coarse timing synchronization is done. 

- preamble based frequency offset synchronization
Before FFT, the frequency offset, divided into a fractional part and an
integer part, will be estimated based on the S&C preamble (also used for
timing sync) and a second preamble. Therefore both fine and coarse frequency
offset estimation is performed.

- preamble based channel estimation
The second preamble, used for frequency offset estimation, will be exploited
to give an estimate of the current channel state. The fine timing
synchronization is absorbed into the channel transfer function (as phase
rotation), i.e. compensated for at this place.

- pilot tone based sampling frequency offset estimation
We insert 8 pilot tones (or subcarriers) to ofdm data blocks. The sampling
frequency offset (as phase rotation) and the residual carrier frequency
offset is estimated and compensated for. Without SFO compensation, we
observed a severe drop of SNIR using the USRPs, especially between two
different charges we bought. The current algorithm acquires and tracks the
SFO and RCFO within an ofdm frame.

- flexible channel estimator
The estimator block can easily use several ofdm blocks to estimate the
channel transfer function. It will output both the inverse ctf to be fed to
the equalizer and the ctf. It uses a simple zero-forcing criteria. The known
blocks' positions within the ofdm frame can be freely chosen. For example,
we used a midamble in our experiments to mitigate some special problems. 

- flexible mapper/demapper
We created a new ofdm mapper/demapper that allows to assign different signal
constellations on different subcarriers. This can be either static or
dynamically changed.

Please let me know if you want to have more details.

If you accept our contribution, I will port the system to use your packet
utils and to have it behave like your systems. Please note that the system
has a modular design and uses simple gnuradio blocks if possible and useful.

Additionally, I personally want to thank you for your great work at the
gnuradio project. It is definitely one of the best SDR environments.

Greetings,
Dominik Auras

Chair of Theoretical Information Technology
RWTH Aachen University
http://www.ti.rwth-aachen.de


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