Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GnuRadio in particle accelerators
2013/10/23 M Dammer i...@mdammer.net: I have no answer here. But talking about Gnuradio and nuclear physics I want to add my idea to your question: Would it be possible to use Gnuradio in a (home made) Gamma Spectrometer ? These spectrometers usually work with a multichannel analyzer that measures the pulse height coming from the detector and then sorting the heights into bins. This is similar to the histogram GUI element found in GRC, but the counting is accumulative until a timer or manual interaction stops it. The big difference between SDR use and nuclear instrumentation is that while SDR mainly works with a constant stream of data the latter mainly deals with transient pulses. Interesting. But, is GnuRadio needed for it? The pulse height coming from the detector is a pulsed high-frequency signal, or just a width-modulated square wave? ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GnuRadio in particle accelerators
OT but has anyone used GNURadio for music production? On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Aylons Hazzud ayl...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/10/23 M Dammer i...@mdammer.net: I have no answer here. But talking about Gnuradio and nuclear physics I want to add my idea to your question: Would it be possible to use Gnuradio in a (home made) Gamma Spectrometer ? These spectrometers usually work with a multichannel analyzer that measures the pulse height coming from the detector and then sorting the heights into bins. This is similar to the histogram GUI element found in GRC, but the counting is accumulative until a timer or manual interaction stops it. The big difference between SDR use and nuclear instrumentation is that while SDR mainly works with a constant stream of data the latter mainly deals with transient pulses. Interesting. But, is GnuRadio needed for it? The pulse height coming from the detector is a pulsed high-frequency signal, or just a width-modulated square wave? ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GnuRadio in particle accelerators
I thought about other options for signal analysis (KST for example). My initial idea was in absence of a scintillation counter system to use a (simple) PIN diode like the widely used BPW34 photodiode as detector. There is some material about this on the web. Then put some amplifier behind it and do the data acquisition with a DC to HF (direct sample) modded RTL-SDR dongle. The interesting parameter in this case would be the pulse height. On 24/10/13 12:54, Aylons Hazzud wrote: 2013/10/23 M Dammer i...@mdammer.net: I have no answer here. But talking about Gnuradio and nuclear physics I want to add my idea to your question: Would it be possible to use Gnuradio in a (home made) Gamma Spectrometer ? These spectrometers usually work with a multichannel analyzer that measures the pulse height coming from the detector and then sorting the heights into bins. This is similar to the histogram GUI element found in GRC, but the counting is accumulative until a timer or manual interaction stops it. The big difference between SDR use and nuclear instrumentation is that while SDR mainly works with a constant stream of data the latter mainly deals with transient pulses. Interesting. But, is GnuRadio needed for it? The pulse height coming from the detector is a pulsed high-frequency signal, or just a width-modulated square wave? ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GnuRadio in particle accelerators
Hi Mark and Aylons, I've also wondered whether a cheap RTL-SDR could be used with GnuRadio as a multichannel analyzer for a homemade Gamma Spectrometer, either using a Geiger tube or a scintillator. I think the tuner would need to be bypassed so that the sampler can get direct samples. There's info on a direct sampling mod here: http://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-direct-sampling-mode/ I've also been curious about using GnuRadio for analysis of other high bandwidth signals, for example from magnetic field detectors such as a GMR sensor. Definitely let us all know if you try this out or come up with other interesting non-radio instrumentation applications. There are so many interesting possibilities! Cheers, Michael Hi Aylons, I have no answer here. But talking about Gnuradio and nuclear physics I want to add my idea to your question: Would it be possible to use Gnuradio in a (home made) Gamma Spectrometer ? These spectrometers usually work with a multichannel analyzer that measures the pulse height coming from the detector and then sorting the heights into bins. This is similar to the histogram GUI element found in GRC, but the counting is accumulative until a timer or manual interaction stops it. The big difference between SDR use and nuclear instrumentation is that while SDR mainly works with a constant stream of data the latter mainly deals with transient pulses. Mark On 23/10/13 17:14, Aylons Hazzud wrote: Hi, people. Anyone here has experience using Gnuradio or USRP as an instrumentation tool (I mean, not for actual radio transmissions)? After years studying, hobbying and working with SDR, I've just learned that they are very similar to particle acceleator instrumentation, in a very pleasant way: I was just hired to work on one, precisely because of the skills acquired with my SDR projects. Moreover, this particular project (Sirius, in Brasil), has adopted an open hardware and free software attitude, which makes the use of Gnuradio particularly interesting. Has anyone worked with this kind of instruments using Gnuradio? Is USRP a good tool for this kind of job, or you can think about any limitation? ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
[Discuss-gnuradio] GnuRadio in particle accelerators
Hi, people. Anyone here has experience using Gnuradio or USRP as an instrumentation tool (I mean, not for actual radio transmissions)? After years studying, hobbying and working with SDR, I've just learned that they are very similar to particle acceleator instrumentation, in a very pleasant way: I was just hired to work on one, precisely because of the skills acquired with my SDR projects. Moreover, this particular project (Sirius, in Brasil), has adopted an open hardware and free software attitude, which makes the use of Gnuradio particularly interesting. Has anyone worked with this kind of instruments using Gnuradio? Is USRP a good tool for this kind of job, or you can think about any limitation? ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GnuRadio in particle accelerators
Hi Aylons, I have no answer here. But talking about Gnuradio and nuclear physics I want to add my idea to your question: Would it be possible to use Gnuradio in a (home made) Gamma Spectrometer ? These spectrometers usually work with a multichannel analyzer that measures the pulse height coming from the detector and then sorting the heights into bins. This is similar to the histogram GUI element found in GRC, but the counting is accumulative until a timer or manual interaction stops it. The big difference between SDR use and nuclear instrumentation is that while SDR mainly works with a constant stream of data the latter mainly deals with transient pulses. Mark On 23/10/13 17:14, Aylons Hazzud wrote: Hi, people. Anyone here has experience using Gnuradio or USRP as an instrumentation tool (I mean, not for actual radio transmissions)? After years studying, hobbying and working with SDR, I've just learned that they are very similar to particle acceleator instrumentation, in a very pleasant way: I was just hired to work on one, precisely because of the skills acquired with my SDR projects. Moreover, this particular project (Sirius, in Brasil), has adopted an open hardware and free software attitude, which makes the use of Gnuradio particularly interesting. Has anyone worked with this kind of instruments using Gnuradio? Is USRP a good tool for this kind of job, or you can think about any limitation? ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GnuRadio in particle accelerators
Not exactly the same thing, but I recall a physicist presented a paper at the first GnuRadio Conference in 2011 on using GR for quantum communication. See http://gnuradio.squarespace.com/grc2011-abstracts#wednesday_1530_1600 Very Respectfully, Dan CaJacob On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM, M Dammer i...@mdammer.net wrote: Hi Aylons, I have no answer here. But talking about Gnuradio and nuclear physics I want to add my idea to your question: Would it be possible to use Gnuradio in a (home made) Gamma Spectrometer ? These spectrometers usually work with a multichannel analyzer that measures the pulse height coming from the detector and then sorting the heights into bins. This is similar to the histogram GUI element found in GRC, but the counting is accumulative until a timer or manual interaction stops it. The big difference between SDR use and nuclear instrumentation is that while SDR mainly works with a constant stream of data the latter mainly deals with transient pulses. Mark On 23/10/13 17:14, Aylons Hazzud wrote: Hi, people. Anyone here has experience using Gnuradio or USRP as an instrumentation tool (I mean, not for actual radio transmissions)? After years studying, hobbying and working with SDR, I've just learned that they are very similar to particle acceleator instrumentation, in a very pleasant way: I was just hired to work on one, precisely because of the skills acquired with my SDR projects. Moreover, this particular project (Sirius, in Brasil), has adopted an open hardware and free software attitude, which makes the use of Gnuradio particularly interesting. Has anyone worked with this kind of instruments using Gnuradio? Is USRP a good tool for this kind of job, or you can think about any limitation? ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GnuRadio in particle accelerators
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 02:14:01PM -0200, Aylons Hazzud wrote: Moreover, this particular project (Sirius, in Brasil), has adopted an open hardware and free software attitude, which makes the use of Gnuradio particularly interesting. That's a great attitude :) Has anyone worked with this kind of instruments using Gnuradio? Is USRP a good tool for this kind of job, or you can think about any limitation? This depends on what exactly you need to do. But GNU Radio has been used for many different things in the past, and most likely, it'll be useful for you. I'm always amazed what people have achieved with GNU Radio. Hopefully you can add another cool application :) Happy hacking, MB -- Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) Communications Engineering Lab (CEL) Dipl.-Ing. Martin Braun Research Associate Kaiserstraße 12 Building 05.01 76131 Karlsruhe Phone: +49 721 608-43790 Fax: +49 721 608-46071 www.cel.kit.edu KIT -- University of the State of Baden-Württemberg and National Laboratory of the Helmholtz Association pgpccLICj5Tbx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
