Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Gradual loss of amplitude as flowgraph runs
Take a look at the phase rotator in the frequency translating FIR filter. Is it done with sine/cos lookups or is it a rotating phasor? Rotating phasors can lose amplitude due to finite precision effects. Matt On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 1:57 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > Still working with the polyphase channelizer program. While everything > "works", there is something very strange: the output amplitude slowly drops > the longer the program runs. As near I can tell, this happens in or > following the frequency translating FFT block. > > To test, I stripped the flowgraph down to the bare minimum and put a > frequency display at the output of the UHD block, and another at the output > of the fx fft block. > > By using the "max hold" feature of the display, I can easily monitor > amplitude drop during the program run. I'm using a signal generator to > feed the USRP a known signal level (162.475 MHz at -70dBm). > > In the attached screenshot, the left display is the UHD output, and the > right is the fx fft output. The flowgraph had been running for about 5 > minutes. The signal out of the fx fft has dropped 20+ dB while the UHD > signal level remains the same. The longer the program runs, the further > the fx fft output drops. > > I'm not seeing any error messages on the console to indicate overrun, > underrun, or other issues. Due to size limits, I attach only the fft > screenshot, but here are all the relevant files: > > http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test.grc > http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test.py > http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test_fft.png > http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test_flowgraph.png > > Any idea what could lead to this kind of problem? It seems like some sort > of accumulating error, but I'm lost as to what. > > Thanks, > John > > ___ > Discuss-gnuradio mailing list > Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio > > ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Gradual loss of amplitude as flowgraph runs
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:57 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > Still working with the polyphase channelizer program. While everything > "works", there is something very strange: the output amplitude slowly drops > the longer the program runs. As near I can tell, this happens in or > following the frequency translating FFT block. > > To test, I stripped the flowgraph down to the bare minimum and put a > frequency display at the output of the UHD block, and another at the output > of the fx fft block. > > By using the "max hold" feature of the display, I can easily monitor > amplitude drop during the program run. I'm using a signal generator to > feed the USRP a known signal level (162.475 MHz at -70dBm). > > In the attached screenshot, the left display is the UHD output, and the > right is the fx fft output. The flowgraph had been running for about 5 > minutes. The signal out of the fx fft has dropped 20+ dB while the UHD > signal level remains the same. The longer the program runs, the further > the fx fft output drops. > > I'm not seeing any error messages on the console to indicate overrun, > underrun, or other issues. Due to size limits, I attach only the fft > screenshot, but here are all the relevant files: > > http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test.grc > http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test.py > http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test_fft.png > http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test_flowgraph.png > > Any idea what could lead to this kind of problem? It seems like some sort > of accumulating error, but I'm lost as to what. > > Thanks, > John > Hi John, I'm not sure what to say about this. I ran your example overnight and dd not see any power loss. Tom ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
[Discuss-gnuradio] Gradual loss of amplitude as flowgraph runs
Still working with the polyphase channelizer program. While everything "works", there is something very strange: the output amplitude slowly drops the longer the program runs. As near I can tell, this happens in or following the frequency translating FFT block. To test, I stripped the flowgraph down to the bare minimum and put a frequency display at the output of the UHD block, and another at the output of the fx fft block. By using the "max hold" feature of the display, I can easily monitor amplitude drop during the program run. I'm using a signal generator to feed the USRP a known signal level (162.475 MHz at -70dBm). In the attached screenshot, the left display is the UHD output, and the right is the fx fft output. The flowgraph had been running for about 5 minutes. The signal out of the fx fft has dropped 20+ dB while the UHD signal level remains the same. The longer the program runs, the further the fx fft output drops. I'm not seeing any error messages on the console to indicate overrun, underrun, or other issues. Due to size limits, I attach only the fft screenshot, but here are all the relevant files: http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test.grc http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test.py http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test_fft.png http://www.febo.com/pages/gr-projects/amplitude_loss_test_flowgraph.png Any idea what could lead to this kind of problem? It seems like some sort of accumulating error, but I'm lost as to what. Thanks, John ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
