Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QPSK over air

2014-02-26 Thread Bogdan Diaconescu
Hi Mark,

the gr-dvbt has a QPSK, QAM-16
 and QAM-64 implementation of constellation for both Tx/Rx. The standard
 it implements is ETSI 300 744 which is OFDM based in which each 
subcarier is modulated using the modulations above.


Regards,
Bogdan




On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:12 PM, "SOUTHCOTT, MARK A CIV USAF AFMC 
AFRL/RITC"  wrote:
 
 
I’m looking for an example of a higher-order modulation implemented 
successfully in GNU Radio with an SDR frontend. I’ve seen bpsk, GMSK, etc. 
implemented over a wireless channel, but I’ve only seen simulations of 
higher-order modulations. Could someone point me towards one or confirm that 
there’s no examples?
 
Mark
 
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QPSK over air

2014-02-25 Thread Ron Economos

Only half of the solution, but there's a fully functional
64-QAM transmitter for bladeRF here:

https://github.com/argilo/gr-qam

It implements the North American CATV standard
ANSI/SCTE07 also known as ITU-T J.83 Annex B.
We're just using cable ready TV's as receivers.

Ron

On 2/25/2014 10:11 AM, SOUTHCOTT, MARK A CIV USAF AFMC AFRL/RITC wrote:


I'm looking for an example of a higher-order modulation implemented 
successfully in GNU Radio with an SDR frontend. I've seen bpsk, GMSK, 
etc. implemented over a wireless channel, but I've only seen 
simulations of higher-order modulations. Could someone point me 
towards one or confirm that there's no examples?


Mark

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QPSK over air

2014-02-25 Thread Tom Rondeau
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Martin Braun  wrote:
> On 02/25/2014 07:17 PM, Aditya Dhananjay wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> The problem is that GNU Radio does not have equalizers that can perform
>> sufficiently well for constellations such as 64-QAM. As far as I know,
>> the only one present is a simple decision feedback equalizer.
>>
>> I'm working on implementing a few equalizers: a) 2D Triangulation, and
>> b) Whittaker-Shannon Sinc interpolator, and c) one of my own.
>>
>> These aren't yet ready to share, but once they are, I will send out an
>> email to the list.
>
> Yeah, that's a good point :)
> What we have in stock GR should work up to 8-PSK, but higher than that,
> they will probably be the limiting factor.
>
> M


The lms_dd_equalizer should work fine for any constellation, for some
definition of 'fine'.

Tom

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QPSK over air

2014-02-25 Thread Martin Braun
On 02/25/2014 07:17 PM, Aditya Dhananjay wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> The problem is that GNU Radio does not have equalizers that can perform
> sufficiently well for constellations such as 64-QAM. As far as I know,
> the only one present is a simple decision feedback equalizer.
> 
> I'm working on implementing a few equalizers: a) 2D Triangulation, and
> b) Whittaker-Shannon Sinc interpolator, and c) one of my own.
> 
> These aren't yet ready to share, but once they are, I will send out an
> email to the list.

Yeah, that's a good point :)
What we have in stock GR should work up to 8-PSK, but higher than that,
they will probably be the limiting factor.

M


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QPSK over air

2014-02-25 Thread Martin Braun
On 02/25/2014 07:11 PM, SOUTHCOTT, MARK A CIV USAF AFMC AFRL/RITC wrote:
> I’m looking for an example of a higher-order modulation implemented
> successfully in GNU Radio with an SDR frontend. I’ve seen bpsk, GMSK,
> etc. implemented over a wireless channel, but I’ve only seen simulations
> of higher-order modulations. Could someone point me towards one or
> confirm that there’s no examples?

Mark,

check out files in gr-digital/examples/narrowband and -demod. QPSK and
8-PSK will work out-of-the-box, people have done that ota, too (I've
done it inside the OFDM code, for example).

M


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] QPSK over air

2014-02-25 Thread Aditya Dhananjay
Hi Mark,

The problem is that GNU Radio does not have equalizers that can perform
sufficiently well for constellations such as 64-QAM. As far as I know, the
only one present is a simple decision feedback equalizer.

I'm working on implementing a few equalizers: a) 2D Triangulation, and b)
Whittaker-Shannon Sinc interpolator, and c) one of my own.

These aren't yet ready to share, but once they are, I will send out an
email to the list.

Best,
Aditya



On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:11 PM, SOUTHCOTT, MARK A CIV USAF AFMC AFRL/RITC <
mark.southcot...@us.af.mil> wrote:

>  I'm looking for an example of a higher-order modulation implemented
> successfully in GNU Radio with an SDR frontend. I've seen bpsk, GMSK, etc.
> implemented over a wireless channel, but I've only seen simulations of
> higher-order modulations. Could someone point me towards one or confirm
> that there's no examples?
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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[Discuss-gnuradio] QPSK over air

2014-02-25 Thread SOUTHCOTT, MARK A CIV USAF AFMC AFRL/RITC
I'm looking for an example of a higher-order modulation implemented 
successfully in GNU Radio with an SDR frontend. I've seen bpsk, GMSK, etc. 
implemented over a wireless channel, but I've only seen simulations of 
higher-order modulations. Could someone point me towards one or confirm that 
there's no examples?

Mark

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