Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Storing A/D samples in memory.........
Kshitij Kumar Singh wrote: > As a part of some research work on cooperative communications in wireless > networks, I had decided to use > the USRP as one the of my implementation platforms. I used the tutorials by > D. Shen as a reference. There are, however , some specific problems I need > help with : > --- > > I need to store the received signal A/D samples (before all the > post-demod processing stuff takes place) in memory and to correlate them > with similar samples stored somewhere else in memory. Once this initial > processing is done, I can move on to the demod part. The sample > storage/correlation part is where I am > getting stuck time and again. Is there some specific block I am going to > need or do I need to write my own signal processing block from scratch? > I tried looking in the mailing list archives but couldn't > find anything similar. Kindly point to any suitable reference on this > topic > I may have overlooked. You will probably want to write your own block. If you have to correlate over a small range sjust use a direct implementation. If you want to corrlate over a large range you probably want to use FFT for that I have been working with the gr-radar code a while back. This uses offline samples (stored to disk) and processes it in a standalone application. (Not using gnuradio flowgraph) You can find some correlation examples in the gr-radar code in svn. I don't remember if the standard code used FFt or not. I have much more complicated experimental code (using special case overlap-add FFTS) If you need that. (I would advice to first understand the standard code) I also have been doing correlation realtime using standard blocks and gnuradio flowgraphs. Below will give you an idea. src0=some complex source src1=some second complex source to correlate with dst_float=gr.file_sink(gr_size_of_float*fft_size,filename) dst_complex=gr.file_sink(gr_size_of_complex*fft_size,filename) s2p0 = gr.serial_to_parallel(gr.sizeof_gr_complex, fft_size) #make the data blockbased fft0 = gr.fft_vcc(fft_size, True, True) #take the fft of a block of data to go to freq domain s2p1 = gr.serial_to_parallel(gr.sizeof_gr_complex, fft_size) #make the data block_based fft1 = gr.fft_vcc(fft_size, True, True) #go to freq domain conj1=gr.conjugate_cc() #take the conjugate to do correlation #if you leave out this step you will do concolution mult=gr.multiply_cc()#correlate in the freq domain ifft=gr.fft_vcc(fft_size, False, True) #convert back to the time domain using inverse FFT c2mag = gr.complex_to_mag(fft_size) #take the magnitude of the complex values fg.connect(src0,s2p,fft0)#make the data blockbased fg.connect(src1,s2p,fft1)#make the data blockbased fg.connect(fft1,conj1) #take the conjugate to do correlation #if you leave out this step you will do concolution fg.connect(fft0,(mult,0))#correlate in the freq domain fg.connect(conj1,(mult,1)) #correlate in the freq domain fg.connect(mult,ifft)#convert back to the time domain using inverse FFT fg.connect(mult,c2mag) #take the magnitude of the complex values fg.connect(mult,dst_complex) #every output element is an block_array (size=fft_size) of complex correlation values fg.connect(c2mag,dst_float) #every output element is an block_array (size=fft_size) of float correlation magnitude values I hope this helps, Martin > - > > Sincerely, > Kshitij > > > > > ___ > Discuss-gnuradio mailing list > Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Storing A/D samples in memory.........
Thanks David, I was looking to store the decimated samples(Would be quite a problem storing raw samples at 64 MHz :) coming in through the USB.) This is definitely helpful. @Zhifeng , I was working on some cooperative communications protocol (honestly, just a fancy multi-hop prototype) where the samples received from the transmitter and the relay could be utilized towards providing a better SNR at the receiver , hopefully, by forming a virtual antenna array (of sorts). Regards, Kshitij On 7/19/07, zhifeng chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Kshitij, I am considering the channel estimation by pilot. So, it may very like what you want. Could you give more detail what is your target? Is there any one have experience on the real time channel estimation (with pilot) on GNU Radio? 2007/7/18, David Scaperoth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Kshitij Kumar Singh wrote: > > > As a part of some research work on cooperative communications in > > wireless networks, I had decided to use > > the USRP as one the of my implementation platforms. I used the > > tutorials by D. Shen as a reference. There are, however , some > > specific problems I need help with : > > -- > > - > > I need to store the received signal A/D samples (before all the > > post-demod processing stuff takes place) in memory and to > > correlate them with similar samples stored somewhere else in memory. > > do you want the raw A/D samples? this would have to be a hardware > solution (pinout to the FPGA). However, If you just want the samples > that are coming across the USB (these samples have been decimated and > filtered) , then you can do a simple write to a file > > fg = gr.flow_graph() > > src = usrp.souce() > snk = gr.file_sink_c(...) > > fg.connect(src,snk) > > then you can do what you want with the data offline > > > Once this initial processing is done, I can move on to the demod > > part. The sample storage/correlation part is where I am > > getting stuck time and again. Is there some specific block I am > > going to need or do I need to write my own signal processing block > > from scratch? > > I tried looking in the mailing list archives but > > couldn't find anything similar. Kindly point to any suitable > > reference on this topic I may have overlooked. > > - > > > > Sincerely, > > Kshitij > > > > > > ___ > > Discuss-gnuradio mailing list > > Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio > > > > ___ > Discuss-gnuradio mailing list > Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio > ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Storing A/D samples in memory.........
Hi Kshitij, I am considering the channel estimation by pilot. So, it may very like what you want. Could you give more detail what is your target? Is there any one have experience on the real time channel estimation (with pilot) on GNU Radio? 2007/7/18, David Scaperoth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Jul 18, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Kshitij Kumar Singh wrote: > As a part of some research work on cooperative communications in > wireless networks, I had decided to use > the USRP as one the of my implementation platforms. I used the > tutorials by D. Shen as a reference. There are, however , some > specific problems I need help with : > -- > - > I need to store the received signal A/D samples (before all the > post-demod processing stuff takes place) in memory and to > correlate them with similar samples stored somewhere else in memory. do you want the raw A/D samples? this would have to be a hardware solution (pinout to the FPGA). However, If you just want the samples that are coming across the USB (these samples have been decimated and filtered) , then you can do a simple write to a file fg = gr.flow_graph() src = usrp.souce() snk = gr.file_sink_c(...) fg.connect(src,snk) then you can do what you want with the data offline > Once this initial processing is done, I can move on to the demod > part. The sample storage/correlation part is where I am > getting stuck time and again. Is there some specific block I am > going to need or do I need to write my own signal processing block > from scratch? > I tried looking in the mailing list archives but > couldn't find anything similar. Kindly point to any suitable > reference on this topic I may have overlooked. > - > > Sincerely, > Kshitij > > > ___ > Discuss-gnuradio mailing list > Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Storing A/D samples in memory.........
On Jul 18, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Kshitij Kumar Singh wrote: As a part of some research work on cooperative communications in wireless networks, I had decided to use the USRP as one the of my implementation platforms. I used the tutorials by D. Shen as a reference. There are, however , some specific problems I need help with : -- - I need to store the received signal A/D samples (before all the post-demod processing stuff takes place) in memory and to correlate them with similar samples stored somewhere else in memory. do you want the raw A/D samples? this would have to be a hardware solution (pinout to the FPGA). However, If you just want the samples that are coming across the USB (these samples have been decimated and filtered) , then you can do a simple write to a file fg = gr.flow_graph() src = usrp.souce() snk = gr.file_sink_c(...) fg.connect(src,snk) then you can do what you want with the data offline Once this initial processing is done, I can move on to the demod part. The sample storage/correlation part is where I am getting stuck time and again. Is there some specific block I am going to need or do I need to write my own signal processing block from scratch? I tried looking in the mailing list archives but couldn't find anything similar. Kindly point to any suitable reference on this topic I may have overlooked. - Sincerely, Kshitij ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
[Discuss-gnuradio] Storing A/D samples in memory.........
As a part of some research work on cooperative communications in wireless networks, I had decided to use the USRP as one the of my implementation platforms. I used the tutorials by D. Shen as a reference. There are, however , some specific problems I need help with : --- I need to store the received signal A/D samples (before all the post-demod processing stuff takes place) in memory and to correlate them with similar samples stored somewhere else in memory. Once this initial processing is done, I can move on to the demod part. The sample storage/correlation part is where I am getting stuck time and again. Is there some specific block I am going to need or do I need to write my own signal processing block from scratch? I tried looking in the mailing list archives but couldn't find anything similar. Kindly point to any suitable reference on this topic I may have overlooked. - Sincerely, Kshitij ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
