Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] how to get wireless carrier signal in GNU Radio

2008-10-25 Thread Shirve

Hi Zenghao,

Thank you for your reply. I have few more queries regarding the carrier
sense module in probe_avg_mag_sqrd_c.cc file. It looks like to find the
presence of carrier in air, there is a variable d_unmuted, which is being
checked. This variable is set whenever pre_output_iir variable is more than
d_threshold value. I have two doubts about it.

First, How can d_threshold be compared with d_iir.prev_output variable? It
seems that d_ threshold is the ratio of Signal to Noise. Does it mean,
d_iir.prev_output is also ratio os signal ro noise?

Second, is there any way to define the threshold signal strength? Or does
the packet initiation detection not depended on carrier's strength and
rather dependent on S/N ratio? 

Hoping for the kind reply again.

- Sachin



Zenny Zhang wrote:
 
 Sachin,
 
 Sure, here is the related code I use:
 
 # get a probe
 alpha = 0.001
 thresh = 30
 
 self.probe = gr.probe_avg_mag_sqrd_c(thresh,alpha)
 
 
 # connect usrp to the probe
 self._fg.connect(self.u, self.probe)
 
 
 # wait until the medium is free
 while objDemod1.probe.level()  threshold:
 time.sleep(0.0001)
 
 
 Zhenghao
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Shirve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Zhenghao,
 Thank you for your valuable reply. I appreciate it. As per your supplied
 information, I will start looking for CSMA code in tunnel.py, though if
 you
 can send me your code, it will be quite helpful too. I hope that using
 tunnel.py code and help from you I will be able to get the carrier sense
 capability for my application.

 Thanks
 -Sachin


 Zenny Zhang wrote:

 Sachin,

 I don't know if this is helpful, just sharing my experience.

 1. You may want to check tunnel.py, in which there is a CSMA scheme --
 Eric told me this a couple of weeks ago.
 2. It is possible to do some carrier sensing by ourself. You can just
 read the signal from the USRP and compare the signal strength level
 with a threshold. Of course a filter is needed. I tried this last week
 and it is working, although the threshold may need some tuning. If you
 need I can send you the code written in python.

 Zhenghao

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Shirve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 As per the current status of GNU Radio, I got to know that there is no
 MAC
 (CSMA) implementation. Therefore I am not sure if I can get the signal
 from
 signal processing blocks of GNU Radio about the carrier sensed by USRP
 receiver.

 Please help me in this regard.

 Till now I am able to locate the message queue mechanism to get the
 received
 packets from the other USRP transmitter, which is in gr_msg_que.cc in
 runtime library of GNUradio-core. But this mechanism just indicates the
 received packets (correct or corrupted), while the signal sensing
 (packet
 start) starts much earlier than the complete packet reception.

 Is it possible to get the information about the wireless carrier signal
 in
 the vicinity of USRP receiver from the current GNU Radio framework? I
 am
 using GNU Radio 3.1.1 version.

 Your help will greatly help me in my goal. Thanks in advance and
 expecting
 your kind reply.

 - Sachin
 --
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] how to get wireless carrier signal in GNU Radio

2008-10-24 Thread Zenny Zhang
Sachin,

Sure, here is the related code I use:

# get a probe
alpha = 0.001
thresh = 30

self.probe = gr.probe_avg_mag_sqrd_c(thresh,alpha)


# connect usrp to the probe
self._fg.connect(self.u, self.probe)


# wait until the medium is free
while objDemod1.probe.level()  threshold:
time.sleep(0.0001)


Zhenghao


On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Shirve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Zhenghao,
 Thank you for your valuable reply. I appreciate it. As per your supplied
 information, I will start looking for CSMA code in tunnel.py, though if you
 can send me your code, it will be quite helpful too. I hope that using
 tunnel.py code and help from you I will be able to get the carrier sense
 capability for my application.

 Thanks
 -Sachin


 Zenny Zhang wrote:

 Sachin,

 I don't know if this is helpful, just sharing my experience.

 1. You may want to check tunnel.py, in which there is a CSMA scheme --
 Eric told me this a couple of weeks ago.
 2. It is possible to do some carrier sensing by ourself. You can just
 read the signal from the USRP and compare the signal strength level
 with a threshold. Of course a filter is needed. I tried this last week
 and it is working, although the threshold may need some tuning. If you
 need I can send you the code written in python.

 Zhenghao

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Shirve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 As per the current status of GNU Radio, I got to know that there is no
 MAC
 (CSMA) implementation. Therefore I am not sure if I can get the signal
 from
 signal processing blocks of GNU Radio about the carrier sensed by USRP
 receiver.

 Please help me in this regard.

 Till now I am able to locate the message queue mechanism to get the
 received
 packets from the other USRP transmitter, which is in gr_msg_que.cc in
 runtime library of GNUradio-core. But this mechanism just indicates the
 received packets (correct or corrupted), while the signal sensing (packet
 start) starts much earlier than the complete packet reception.

 Is it possible to get the information about the wireless carrier signal
 in
 the vicinity of USRP receiver from the current GNU Radio framework? I am
 using GNU Radio 3.1.1 version.

 Your help will greatly help me in my goal. Thanks in advance and
 expecting
 your kind reply.

 - Sachin
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] how to get wireless carrier signal in GNU Radio

2008-10-23 Thread Shirve

Hi Zhenghao,
Thank you for your valuable reply. I appreciate it. As per your supplied
information, I will start looking for CSMA code in tunnel.py, though if you
can send me your code, it will be quite helpful too. I hope that using
tunnel.py code and help from you I will be able to get the carrier sense
capability for my application.

Thanks 
-Sachin


Zenny Zhang wrote:
 
 Sachin,
 
 I don't know if this is helpful, just sharing my experience.
 
 1. You may want to check tunnel.py, in which there is a CSMA scheme --
 Eric told me this a couple of weeks ago.
 2. It is possible to do some carrier sensing by ourself. You can just
 read the signal from the USRP and compare the signal strength level
 with a threshold. Of course a filter is needed. I tried this last week
 and it is working, although the threshold may need some tuning. If you
 need I can send you the code written in python.
 
 Zhenghao
 
 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Shirve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 As per the current status of GNU Radio, I got to know that there is no
 MAC
 (CSMA) implementation. Therefore I am not sure if I can get the signal
 from
 signal processing blocks of GNU Radio about the carrier sensed by USRP
 receiver.

 Please help me in this regard.

 Till now I am able to locate the message queue mechanism to get the
 received
 packets from the other USRP transmitter, which is in gr_msg_que.cc in
 runtime library of GNUradio-core. But this mechanism just indicates the
 received packets (correct or corrupted), while the signal sensing (packet
 start) starts much earlier than the complete packet reception.

 Is it possible to get the information about the wireless carrier signal
 in
 the vicinity of USRP receiver from the current GNU Radio framework? I am
 using GNU Radio 3.1.1 version.

 Your help will greatly help me in my goal. Thanks in advance and
 expecting
 your kind reply.

 - Sachin
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[Discuss-gnuradio] how to get wireless carrier signal in GNU Radio

2008-10-22 Thread Shirve

Hi,
As per the current status of GNU Radio, I got to know that there is no MAC
(CSMA) implementation. Therefore I am not sure if I can get the signal from
signal processing blocks of GNU Radio about the carrier sensed by USRP
receiver.

Please help me in this regard.

Till now I am able to locate the message queue mechanism to get the received
packets from the other USRP transmitter, which is in gr_msg_que.cc in
runtime library of GNUradio-core. But this mechanism just indicates the
received packets (correct or corrupted), while the signal sensing (packet
start) starts much earlier than the complete packet reception. 

Is it possible to get the information about the wireless carrier signal in
the vicinity of USRP receiver from the current GNU Radio framework? I am
using GNU Radio 3.1.1 version.

Your help will greatly help me in my goal. Thanks in advance and expecting
your kind reply.

- Sachin
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] how to get wireless carrier signal in GNU Radio

2008-10-22 Thread Zenny Zhang
Sachin,

I don't know if this is helpful, just sharing my experience.

1. You may want to check tunnel.py, in which there is a CSMA scheme --
Eric told me this a couple of weeks ago.
2. It is possible to do some carrier sensing by ourself. You can just
read the signal from the USRP and compare the signal strength level
with a threshold. Of course a filter is needed. I tried this last week
and it is working, although the threshold may need some tuning. If you
need I can send you the code written in python.

Zhenghao

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Shirve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 As per the current status of GNU Radio, I got to know that there is no MAC
 (CSMA) implementation. Therefore I am not sure if I can get the signal from
 signal processing blocks of GNU Radio about the carrier sensed by USRP
 receiver.

 Please help me in this regard.

 Till now I am able to locate the message queue mechanism to get the received
 packets from the other USRP transmitter, which is in gr_msg_que.cc in
 runtime library of GNUradio-core. But this mechanism just indicates the
 received packets (correct or corrupted), while the signal sensing (packet
 start) starts much earlier than the complete packet reception.

 Is it possible to get the information about the wireless carrier signal in
 the vicinity of USRP receiver from the current GNU Radio framework? I am
 using GNU Radio 3.1.1 version.

 Your help will greatly help me in my goal. Thanks in advance and expecting
 your kind reply.

 - Sachin
 --
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