Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] use of a bulletin board system in lieu of a mailing-list discussion
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Douglas Geiger doug.gei...@bioradiation.net wrote: 2.) I do see the value of some of the more recent QA type websites. In particular I'll point to stackoverflow (and the related stackexchange set of websites) as an excellent repository of knowledge that excels at building a community. Although, while there are a few questions tagged [gnuradio] on stackoverflow, I don't think it has caught on as a place to ask DSP/comms/gnuradio related programming questions. There's a new stackexchange group forming specific to amateur radio. It's in the pre-beta phases now, gathering a supportive community. Anyone interested in this sort of QA web site can check this out here: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/1795/amateur-radio The FAQ link at the top of the page has good information about the formation process for these groups. Steve Conklin, AI4QR ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] use of a bulletin board system in lieu of a mailing-list discussion
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Matt Ettus m...@ettus.com wrote: On 09/02/2010 10:47 AM, Dan Harasty wrote: Hello, all. OK, I know I'm just the new guy here, and it may be poor form to suggest that a well established forum should change its ways But I find the email-based discussion list VERY inefficient. A lot of people on here seem to use Nabble which provides the bulletin board interface. The mailing list already has search and archive features, as do Nabble and Google. On a more philosophical note, I think a mailing list better encourages participation and community. For example, if everyone only looked at the forum when they had a question that they were hoping to have answered, then there would never be anybody there to answer them. Matt I generally agree with Matt's comments, but I'll add two things: 1.) The Wiki is there to be a more permanent repository of knowledge (i.e. something that's easy to reference vs. the 'conversational' style of the mailing list) 2.) I do see the value of some of the more recent QA type websites. In particular I'll point to stackoverflow (and the related stackexchange set of websites) as an excellent repository of knowledge that excels at building a community. Although, while there are a few questions tagged [gnuradio] on stackoverflow, I don't think it has caught on as a place to ask DSP/comms/gnuradio related programming questions. In any event, I personally still see lots of value in participating the mailing list, but figured I'd throw out the fact that there are already some other options to look for information. Doug -- Doug Geiger doug.gei...@bioradiation.net ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
[Discuss-gnuradio] use of a bulletin board system in lieu of a mailing-list discussion
Hello, all. OK, I know I'm just the new guy here, and it may be poor form to suggest that a well established forum should change its ways But I find the email-based discussion list VERY inefficient. - any sense of threading of a conversation is lost (at least for me: I receive the digest version.) - if there is a way for me to search for my issue in prior threads, I haven't found it yet. (Maybe I'm missing it or maybe it doesn't exist) - email arrives even on days when I'm not focusing on my GNU radio projects. I'm part of other organizations that use a web bulletin board very effectively. It addresses all the above issues: threading, searching prior discussions, and simply being there when one needs it. One such system is vBulletin (http://www.vbulletin.com/). This system is a bit different from a wiki (which has static pages that anyone can update). Rather, someone posts a post in a forum. Follow up posts are seen distinctly (you can't edit someone else's post), and all such follow ups to an original post are called a thread. Is there any interest in considering a shift to it or something similar? Yes, it would need: a physical host, effort to set it up, an admin (for membership issues), and a panel moderators (to edit / move threads when necessary). And maybe the cost of the software. I understand that if there is a lack of interest (to participate), or if no one is available to set it up, it won't happen. If so: /c'est la vie/... However, I just wanted to float the idea in case there is general interest and the right set of volunteers. -- Dan Harasty attachment: dharasty.vcf smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] use of a bulletin board system in lieu of a mailing-list discussion
Dan, Other than the difficulty of setting up and maintaining the site, I think it's a fabulous idea! Then again, I'm just as new as you are, but in general I think it would be *way* better. Especially for new folks jumping in and learning all the past body of knowledge. -William On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Dan Harasty dhara...@telcordia.com wrote: Hello, all. OK, I know I'm just the new guy here, and it may be poor form to suggest that a well established forum should change its ways But I find the email-based discussion list VERY inefficient. - any sense of threading of a conversation is lost (at least for me: I receive the digest version.) - if there is a way for me to search for my issue in prior threads, I haven't found it yet. (Maybe I'm missing it or maybe it doesn't exist) - email arrives even on days when I'm not focusing on my GNU radio projects. I'm part of other organizations that use a web bulletin board very effectively. It addresses all the above issues: threading, searching prior discussions, and simply being there when one needs it. One such system is vBulletin (http://www.vbulletin.com/). This system is a bit different from a wiki (which has static pages that anyone can update). Rather, someone posts a post in a forum. Follow up posts are seen distinctly (you can't edit someone else's post), and all such follow ups to an original post are called a thread. Is there any interest in considering a shift to it or something similar? Yes, it would need: a physical host, effort to set it up, an admin (for membership issues), and a panel moderators (to edit / move threads when necessary). And maybe the cost of the software. I understand that if there is a lack of interest (to participate), or if no one is available to set it up, it won't happen. If so: *c'est la vie*... However, I just wanted to float the idea in case there is general interest and the right set of volunteers. -- Dan Harasty ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] use of a bulletin board system in lieu of a mailing-list discussion
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 01:47:34PM -0400, Dan Harasty wrote: Hello, all. OK, I know I'm just the new guy here, and it may be poor form to suggest that a well established forum should change its ways :-) But I find the email-based discussion list VERY inefficient. - any sense of threading of a conversation is lost (at least for me: I receive the digest version.) - if there is a way for me to search for my issue in prior threads, I haven't found it yet. (Maybe I'm missing it or maybe it doesn't exist) Google works for me: gnuradio + whatever I care about gets me one of the N mailing list archives, where the messages are threaded. - email arrives even on days when I'm not focusing on my GNU radio projects. Gee, that sounds like your mail handling tools suck. I'd suggest the non-digest format, and have your MUA automatically put the messages into a folder that you only look at when you care about GNU Radio. I'm assuming that your MUA can sort out the threading. I'm part of other organizations that use a web bulletin board very effectively. It addresses all the above issues: threading, searching prior discussions, and simply being there when one needs it. One such system is vBulletin (http://www.vbulletin.com/). This system is a bit different from a wiki (which has static pages that anyone can update). Rather, someone posts a post in a forum. Follow up posts are seen distinctly (you can't edit someone else's post), and all such follow ups to an original post are called a thread. Is there any interest in considering a shift to it or something similar? Who knows? You can of course subscribe an address that gets gateway'd to where ever you like. Yes, it would need: a physical host, effort to set it up, an admin (for membership issues), and a panel moderators (to edit / move threads when necessary). And maybe the cost of the software. I understand that if there is a lack of interest (to participate), or if no one is available to set it up, it won't happen. If so: /c'est la vie/... However, I just wanted to float the idea in case there is general interest and the right set of volunteers. -- Dan Harasty Thanks for the suggestion and the links. Eric ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] use of a bulletin board system in lieu of a mailing-list discussion
On 09/02/2010 10:47 AM, Dan Harasty wrote: Hello, all. OK, I know I'm just the new guy here, and it may be poor form to suggest that a well established forum should change its ways But I find the email-based discussion list VERY inefficient. A lot of people on here seem to use Nabble which provides the bulletin board interface. The mailing list already has search and archive features, as do Nabble and Google. On a more philosophical note, I think a mailing list better encourages participation and community. For example, if everyone only looked at the forum when they had a question that they were hoping to have answered, then there would never be anybody there to answer them. Matt ___ Discuss-gnuradio mailing list Discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
