GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks

[Bachmaier, Luca]

Hey everyone,

I'm currently implementing a flowgraph that uses RFNoC by UHD / Ettus Research. 
In GNU Radio companion, I noticed that there are no blocks "RFNoC Fosphor 
Block" and "RFNoC Qt Fosphor Display" available (See this workshop 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs @ 22:13 for a flowgraph that uses 
them). My basic software setup is:

-  OS: Debian 12

-  GNU Radio 3.10.5.1

-  UHD 4.3.0.0+ds1-5

I was wondering why these blocks aren't available or if I need to install an 
additional module in order to get them. The module gr-fosphor 
(https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor) just installs the 
"standard" version of Fosphor, *not* the FPGA / RFNoC implementation.

Thank you and regards
Luca

GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks

[Bachmaier, Luca]

Hi Johannes,

thank you for your reply. Where can I find this module? The gr-ettus module 
(https://github.com/EttusResearch/gr-ettus) is apparently not required for 
3.10, on the site it says "Use gr-uhd directly".

That aside I'm installing GNU Radio 3.10.7 right now which should contain the 
RFNoC Fosphor blocks (as opposed to my current version 3.10.5).

Regards
Luca

>-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>Von: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+luca.bachmaier=iis.fraunhofer...@gnu.org
> Im
>Auftrag von Johannes Demel
>Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 14:30
>An: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
>Betreff: Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks
>
>Hi Luca,
>
>you need to install the OOT module that includes the RFNoC version of
>fosphor.
>
>Cheers
>Johannes
>
>On 04.09.23 13:00, Bachmaier, Luca wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I’m currently implementing a flowgraph that uses RFNoC by UHD / Ettus
>> Research. In GNU Radio companion, I noticed that there are no blocks
>> “RFNoC Fosphor Block” and “RFNoC Qt Fosphor Display” available (See this
>> workshop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs> @ 22:13 for a
>flowgraph
>> that uses them). My basic software setup is:
>>
>> -OS: Debian 12
>>
>> -GNU Radio 3.10.5.1
>>
>> -UHD 4.3.0.0+ds1-5
>>
>> I was wondering why these blocks aren’t available or if I need to
>> install an additional module in order to get them. The module gr-fosphor
>> (https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor
>> <https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor>) just installs
>> the “standard” version of Fosphor, **not** the FPGA / RFNoC
>implementation.
>>
>> Thank you and regards
>>
>> Luca
>>

Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks

[Johannes Demel]

Hi Luca,

you need to install the OOT module that includes the RFNoC version of 
fosphor.


Cheers
Johannes

On 04.09.23 13:00, Bachmaier, Luca wrote:

Hey everyone,

I’m currently implementing a flowgraph that uses RFNoC by UHD / Ettus 
Research. In GNU Radio companion, I noticed that there are no blocks 
“RFNoC Fosphor Block” and “RFNoC Qt Fosphor Display” available (See this 
workshop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs 
 @ 22:13 for a flowgraph 
that uses them). My basic software setup is:


-OS: Debian 12

-GNU Radio 3.10.5.1

-UHD 4.3.0.0+ds1-5

I was wondering why these blocks aren’t available or if I need to 
install an additional module in order to get them. The module gr-fosphor 
(https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor 
) just installs 
the “standard” version of Fosphor, **not** the FPGA / RFNoC implementation.


Thank you and regards

Luca



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Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks

[Clint Scarborough]

I'm not sure about UHD 4.3, but the blocks are available for me with UHD 4.4 
and GR 3.10.

However, the RFNoC Fosphor display block bogs down the GUI so much that it's 
practically unusable.  I haven't been able to look into what's wrong, or 
whether I'm doing something wrong though.

-- Clint


On September 4, 2023 12:51:10 PM UTC, "Bachmaier, Luca" 
 wrote:
>Hi Johannes,
>   
>thank you for your reply. Where can I find this module? The gr-ettus module 
>(https://github.com/EttusResearch/gr-ettus) is apparently not required for 
>3.10, on the site it says "Use gr-uhd directly".
>
>That aside I'm installing GNU Radio 3.10.7 right now which should contain the 
>RFNoC Fosphor blocks (as opposed to my current version 3.10.5).
>
>Regards
>Luca
>
>>-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>Von: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+luca.bachmaier=iis.fraunhofer...@gnu.org
>> Im
>>Auftrag von Johannes Demel
>>Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 14:30
>>An: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
>>Betreff: Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks
>>
>>Hi Luca,
>>
>>you need to install the OOT module that includes the RFNoC version of
>>fosphor.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Johannes
>>
>>On 04.09.23 13:00, Bachmaier, Luca wrote:
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> I’m currently implementing a flowgraph that uses RFNoC by UHD / Ettus
>>> Research. In GNU Radio companion, I noticed that there are no blocks
>>> “RFNoC Fosphor Block” and “RFNoC Qt Fosphor Display” available (See this
>>> workshop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs> @ 22:13 for a
>>flowgraph
>>> that uses them). My basic software setup is:
>>>
>>> -OS: Debian 12
>>>
>>> -GNU Radio 3.10.5.1
>>>
>>> -UHD 4.3.0.0+ds1-5
>>>
>>> I was wondering why these blocks aren’t available or if I need to
>>> install an additional module in order to get them. The module gr-fosphor
>>> (https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor
>>> <https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor>) just installs
>>> the “standard” version of Fosphor, **not** the FPGA / RFNoC
>>implementation.
>>>
>>> Thank you and regards
>>>
>>> Luca
>>>

Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks

[Bachmaier, Luca]

Hey everyone,

I was able to solve this problem now: my installed version of GNU Radio 
(3.10.5) simply didn’t contain the Fosphor blocks. After removing this version 
and installing GR 3.10.7 from source the blocks are now available in GRC. (See 
release notes for GR 3.10.6, “gr-uhd” 
https://www.gnuradio.org/news/2023-07-19-gnuradio-v3.10.7.0-release/)

So far I’m struggling with getting Fosphor to start, Error “[!] CL Error 
(-1001, …): Unable to fetch platform IDs”. I wasn’t able to find any up-to-date 
help about this online. How did you install Fosphor / OpenGL? I’m using a AMD 
CPU and since AMD stopped supporting OpenGL I had to switch over to POCL.

Regards
Luca

Von: Clint Scarborough 
Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 15:13
An: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org; Bachmaier, Luca 
; Johannes Demel ; 
discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Betreff: Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks

I'm not sure about UHD 4.3, but the blocks are available for me with UHD 4.4 
and GR 3.10.

However, the RFNoC Fosphor display block bogs down the GUI so much that it's 
practically unusable.  I haven't been able to look into what's wrong, or 
whether I'm doing something wrong though.
-- Clint

On September 4, 2023 12:51:10 PM UTC, "Bachmaier, Luca" 
mailto:luca.bachma...@iis.fraunhofer.de>> 
wrote:

Hi Johannes,

thank you for your reply. Where can I find this module? The gr-ettus module 
(https://github.com/EttusResearch/gr-ettus) is apparently not required for 
3.10, on the site it says "Use gr-uhd directly".

That aside I'm installing GNU Radio 3.10.7 right now which should contain the 
RFNoC Fosphor blocks (as opposed to my current version 3.10.5).

Regards
Luca

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: 
discuss-gnuradio-bounces+luca.bachmaier=iis.fraunhofer...@gnu.org<mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+luca.bachmaier=iis.fraunhofer...@gnu.org>
mailto:discuss-gnuradio-bounces+luca.bachmaier=iis.fraunhofer...@gnu.org>>
 Im
Auftrag von Johannes Demel
Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 14:30
An: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org<mailto:discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org>
Betreff: Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks

Hi Luca,

you need to install the OOT module that includes the RFNoC version of
fosphor.

Cheers
Johannes

On 04.09.23 13:00, Bachmaier, Luca wrote:

 Hey everyone,

 I’m currently implementing a flowgraph that uses RFNoC by UHD / Ettus
 Research. In GNU Radio companion, I noticed that there are no blocks
 “RFNoC Fosphor Block” and “RFNoC Qt Fosphor Display” available (See this
 workshop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs
 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs> @ 22:13 for a

flowgraph

 that uses them). My basic software setup is:

 -OS: Debian 12

 -GNU Radio 3.10.5.1

 -UHD 4.3.0.0+ds1-5

 I was wondering why these blocks aren’t available or if I need to
 install an additional module in order to get them. The module gr-fosphor
 (https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor
 <https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor>) just installs
 the “standard” version of Fosphor, **not** the FPGA / RFNoC

implementation.

 Thank you and regards

 Luca

Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks

[Jeff Long]

The RFNoC Fosphor block is included in-tree on the main branch, but has not
been backported to the maint-3.10 branch.

On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 7:59 AM Clint Scarborough <
clinton.scarboro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure about UHD 4.3, but the blocks are available for me with UHD
> 4.4 and GR 3.10.
>
> However, the RFNoC Fosphor display block bogs down the GUI so much that
> it's practically unusable.  I haven't been able to look into what's wrong,
> or whether I'm doing something wrong though.
> -- Clint
>
>
> On September 4, 2023 12:51:10 PM UTC, "Bachmaier, Luca" <
> luca.bachma...@iis.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Johannes,
>>  
>> thank you for your reply. Where can I find this module? The gr-ettus module 
>> (https://github.com/EttusResearch/gr-ettus) is apparently not required for 
>> 3.10, on the site it says "Use gr-uhd directly".
>>
>> That aside I'm installing GNU Radio 3.10.7 right now which should contain 
>> the RFNoC Fosphor blocks (as opposed to my current version 3.10.5).
>>
>> Regards
>> Luca
>>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+luca.bachmaier=iis.fraunhofer...@gnu.org
>>>  Im
>>> Auftrag von Johannes Demel
>>> Gesendet: Montag, 4. September 2023 14:30
>>> An: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
>>> Betreff: Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks
>>>
>>> Hi Luca,
>>>
>>> you need to install the OOT module that includes the RFNoC version of
>>> fosphor.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Johannes
>>>
>>> On 04.09.23 13:00, Bachmaier, Luca wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hey everyone,
>>>>
>>>>  I’m currently implementing a flowgraph that uses RFNoC by UHD / Ettus
>>>>  Research. In GNU Radio companion, I noticed that there are no blocks
>>>>  “RFNoC Fosphor Block” and “RFNoC Qt Fosphor Display” available (See this
>>>>  workshop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs
>>>>  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs> @ 22:13 for a
>>>>
>>> flowgraph
>>>
>>>>  that uses them). My basic software setup is:
>>>>
>>>>  -OS: Debian 12
>>>>
>>>>  -GNU Radio 3.10.5.1
>>>>
>>>>  -UHD 4.3.0.0+ds1-5
>>>>
>>>>  I was wondering why these blocks aren’t available or if I need to
>>>>  install an additional module in order to get them. The module gr-fosphor
>>>>  (https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor
>>>>  <https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor>) just installs
>>>>  the “standard” version of Fosphor, **not** the FPGA / RFNoC
>>>>
>>> implementation.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Thank you and regards
>>>>
>>>>  Luca
>>>>
>>>>

Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks

[Clint Scarborough]

I did muddle my response - I see all the blocks with UHD 4.4 and GR's 
main branch, as Jeff mentioned below.  However, with GR's maint-3.10 I 
did still see the RFNoC Fosphor block, but not the RFNoC Fosphor 
_display_ block.


Are you (or anyone else) using the RFNoC Fosphor display block with a 
responsive GUI?  Brian Padalino helped me out on this mailing list back 
in July, and he mentioned that the GUI wasn't responsive for him either.



On 9/5/23 12:44 PM, Jeff Long wrote:
The RFNoC Fosphor block is included in-tree on the main branch, but 
has not been backported to the maint-3.10 branch.


On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 7:59 AM Clint Scarborough 
 wrote:


I'm not sure about UHD 4.3, but the blocks are available for me
with UHD 4.4 and GR 3.10.

However, the RFNoC Fosphor display block bogs down the GUI so much
that it's practically unusable.  I haven't been able to look into
what's wrong, or whether I'm doing something wrong though.
-- Clint


On September 4, 2023 12:51:10 PM UTC, "Bachmaier, Luca"
 wrote:

Hi Johannes, thank you for your reply. Where can I find this
module? The gr-ettus module
(https://github.com/EttusResearch/gr-ettus) is apparently not
required for 3.10, on the site it says "Use gr-uhd directly".
That aside I'm installing GNU Radio 3.10.7 right now which
should contain the RFNoC Fosphor blocks (as opposed to my
current version 3.10.5). Regards Luca

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:
discuss-gnuradio-bounces+luca.bachmaier=iis.fraunhofer...@gnu.org

Im Auftrag von Johannes Demel Gesendet: Montag, 4.
September 2023 14:30 An: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org Betreff:
Re: GRC: Cannot find "RFNoC Fosphor" blocks Hi Luca, you
need to install the OOT module that includes the RFNoC
version of fosphor. Cheers Johannes On 04.09.23 13:00,
Bachmaier, Luca wrote:

Hey everyone, I’m currently implementing a flowgraph
that uses RFNoC by UHD / Ettus Research. In GNU Radio
companion, I noticed that there are no blocks “RFNoC
Fosphor Block” and “RFNoC Qt Fosphor Display”
available (See this workshop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ntwQie9vs> @ 22:13
for a 


flowgraph

that uses them). My basic software setup is: -OS:
Debian 12 -GNU Radio 3.10.5.1 -UHD 4.3.0.0+ds1-5 I was
wondering why these blocks aren’t available or if I
need to install an additional module in order to get
them. The module gr-fosphor
(https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor
<https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/sdr/wiki/Fosphor>)
just installs the “standard” version of Fosphor,
**not** the FPGA / RFNoC 


implementation.

Thank you and regards Luca