Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] CSI in gr-ieee80211

2014-03-31 Thread Surligas Manos
I use a card from Per Vices. I do not have the option to change the 
cuttoff frequency of the
filter without flashing the firmware. As a workaround, I tuned my device 
to a different frequency (+10 MHz) and using an NCO I managed to bypass 
the power loss at the center sub-carriers.


On 03/29/2014 03:11 PM, Paul Fuxjaeger wrote:

On 28.03.14 19:40, Surligas Manos wrote:

Which device did you used for receiving samples? I have noticed a same
phenomenon with my device, caused by a coarse implementation of a high
pass filter.

The filter in the Maxim2829 in the XCVR2450 that we used can be
configured to 0, 100Hz and 30kHz and the default is 100Hz I believe? If
you didn't change anything there this cannot explain your problem. Any
filter than goes above 150kHz would be a problem for the centerish
carriers in 802.11 OFDM (~300kHz carrier spacing).

what happens if you TX a sinusoid and stepwise tune the RX to slightly
off frequencies (take note of the *actual* RX LO frequency when doing
the sweep - the difference to that one and the TX sinusoid matters).
Does the RX power also start to decrease as soon as you set the TX-RX
offset smaller than 150kHz?

-paul

PS: as Sebastian said, the outer subcarriers being lower can be
explained by odd decimation factors like 5 - which causes the
digital-downconversion filter chain to change to a single CIC stage I
believe.


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] CSI in gr-ieee80211

2014-03-29 Thread Paul Fuxjaeger
On 28.03.14 19:40, Surligas Manos wrote:
 Which device did you used for receiving samples? I have noticed a same
 phenomenon with my device, caused by a coarse implementation of a high
 pass filter.

The filter in the Maxim2829 in the XCVR2450 that we used can be
configured to 0, 100Hz and 30kHz and the default is 100Hz I believe? If
you didn't change anything there this cannot explain your problem. Any
filter than goes above 150kHz would be a problem for the centerish
carriers in 802.11 OFDM (~300kHz carrier spacing).

what happens if you TX a sinusoid and stepwise tune the RX to slightly
off frequencies (take note of the *actual* RX LO frequency when doing
the sweep - the difference to that one and the TX sinusoid matters).
Does the RX power also start to decrease as soon as you set the TX-RX
offset smaller than 150kHz?

-paul

PS: as Sebastian said, the outer subcarriers being lower can be
explained by odd decimation factors like 5 - which causes the
digital-downconversion filter chain to change to a single CIC stage I
believe.

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] CSI in gr-ieee80211

2014-03-28 Thread Surligas Manos
Which device did you used for receiving samples? I have noticed a same 
phenomenon with my device, caused by a coarse implementation of a high 
pass filter.

On 03/26/2014 04:08 PM, Bastian Bloessl wrote:

On 26 Mar 2014, at 15:05, alex alexleeresea...@gmail.com wrote:

I am currently working on gr-ieee80211. Now I want to use the long preamble to 
estimate the CSI. However, after I apply fft to the long preamble, I found the 
power for each channel is not the same. I took an average over lots of packets. 
The power near the middle sub-carriers are always very lower than on the edges. 
I would like to ask if it is because the Power spectral density in the 
transmitter or some other reasons.


If your sample rate is 20MHz you will see an uncompensated filter, but in that 
case the power of the subcarriers in the center should be higher.
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] CSI in gr-ieee80211

2014-03-26 Thread Bastian Bloessl
On 26 Mar 2014, at 15:05, alex alexleeresea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am currently working on gr-ieee80211. Now I want to use the long preamble 
 to estimate the CSI. However, after I apply fft to the long preamble, I found 
 the power for each channel is not the same. I took an average over lots of 
 packets. The power near the middle sub-carriers are always very lower than on 
 the edges. I would like to ask if it is because the Power spectral density in 
 the transmitter or some other reasons.
 

If your sample rate is 20MHz you will see an uncompensated filter, but in that 
case the power of the subcarriers in the center should be higher.
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