Re: Weird focus problem with GNUstep applications in WindowMaker
I usually work with both options checked: 'Do not let applications receive the click used to focus windows' and 'Automatically focus new windows'. I just tried to uncheck the last one, as it seemed it could be the cause of the problem, but it didn't work: the problem still happens. Thanks for your answer anyway. - Eric - On 21 juil. 10, at 19:11, Gregory Casamento wrote: What settings do you have selected in the WindowMaker preferences? GC On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Eric Brunel eric.bru...@pragmadev.com wrote: Hello all, I'm currently using the latest Debian Linux distribution with WindowMaker as my window manager and a few GNUstep applications, mainly GWorkspace and Terminal. And I have a weird problem with the keyboard focus. The problem seems to happen only when a window is focused automatically by WindowMaker. In this case, most of the time, if I type a key corresponding to a menu shortcut, the corresponding menu item will be triggered. But if the key is not a keyboard shortcut for a menu item, it will go to the application window normally. So for example, if I start to type 'cd' in a terminal window, the 'c' will trigger the Edit/Copy menu item, and only the 'd' will appear in the terminal. There doesn't seem to be any visual hint when the problem happens, the window seems focused, with its title bar in the correct style. And the problem does not always happen, but happens quite often anyway. Usually, clicking on another window, then back on the previous one, or playing with the window a bit will solve the problem. But if another window is opened on top of it and then closed, the focus might get messed up again This forces me to be very careful and test every window each time it gets focused automatically, which is quite painful. I had the same problem after resizing an already active window too. I tried changing a few WindowMaker options, like 'Do not let applications receive the click used to focus windows' and 'Automatically focus new windows', but whether they're checked or not, the problem still happens. Is there any workaround for this? Or a trick to make it work correctly? The versions I'm using are the ones included in Debian 5.0 (lenny), which are: WindowMaker 0.92.0 GNUstep make 2.0.6 GNUstep base 1.16.1 GNUstep GUI 0.14.0 GNUstep back 0.14 Thanks! - Eric - ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: Weird focus problem with GNUstep applications in WindowMaker
Eric Brunel wrote: Is there any workaround for this? Or a trick to make it work correctly? The versions I'm using are the ones included in Debian 5.0 (lenny), which are: WindowMaker 0.92.0 GNUstep make 2.0.6 GNUstep base 1.16.1 GNUstep GUI 0.14.0 GNUstep back 0.14 These versions were released more than two years ago and there have been two major upgrades since then, which contain a substantial amount of bug fixes. In particular, the issue with the modifier keys you observed was fixed shortly before the release of GNUstep back version 0.16, so my recommendation is simply to upgrade to a more recent GNUstep version. Wolfgang ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: Weird focus problem with GNUstep applications in WindowMaker
Thanks for the info. It is more or less what I suspected. I chose Debian because they seem to be the only ones who have GNUstep packages in their standard distribution, but it seems they don't upgrade them very often. I checked the testing and unstable releases for the versions to come; There are a few improvements indeed, but they're still not at the latest versions. And besides, I'd prefer using a stable distribution. What are my options here? It seems the file organisation for GNUstep in Debian is quite different from the standard one, so getting the latest sources and compiling them myself is quite likely to mess things up completely. Is there an unofficial repository somewhere that would allow to upgrade to more recent versions without breaking everything? Thanks! - Eric - On 22 juil. 10, at 12:14, Wolfgang Lux wrote: Eric Brunel wrote: Is there any workaround for this? Or a trick to make it work correctly? The versions I'm using are the ones included in Debian 5.0 (lenny), which are: WindowMaker 0.92.0 GNUstep make 2.0.6 GNUstep base 1.16.1 GNUstep GUI 0.14.0 GNUstep back 0.14 These versions were released more than two years ago and there have been two major upgrades since then, which contain a substantial amount of bug fixes. In particular, the issue with the modifier keys you observed was fixed shortly before the release of GNUstep back version 0.16, so my recommendation is simply to upgrade to a more recent GNUstep version. Wolfgang ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: Weird focus problem with GNUstep applications in WindowMaker
В Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:31:32 +0200, Eric Brunel написа: but it seems they don't upgrade them very often. Well, upgrading them in the stable suite is completely out of question. OTOH, backports are useless because of the SONAME bumps. I checked the testing and unstable releases for the versions to come; There are a few improvements indeed, but they're still not at the latest versions. The latest Base/GUI/Back is in experimental, waiting (8 months already :-() for permission from the Release Team for the library transition. And besides, I'd prefer using a stable distribution. I am using even an even older combination on gNewSense (1.14/0.12). Some bugs are annoying, but still bearable. What are my options here? 1. Fetch the most recent Debian source packages, build and install the .debs. 2. Install GNUstep from SVN with GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DOMAIN=USER. 3. Purge your distro packages, and install GNUstep from SVN with the native layout. Debian is quite different from the standard one, The standard one for GNUstep, you mean. The FHS layout Debian packages (almost) adhere to *is* the standard for the Debian distribution; the GNUstep stack was threatened with removal a few years ago for non-compliance. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: Weird focus problem with GNUstep applications in WindowMaker
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:31:32 +0200, Eric Brunel eric.bru...@pragmadev.com wrote: Thanks for the info. It is more or less what I suspected. I chose Debian because they seem to be the only ones who have GNUstep packages in their standard distribution, but it seems they don't upgrade them very often. I checked the testing and unstable releases for the versions to come; There are a few improvements indeed, but they're still not at the latest versions. And besides, I'd prefer using a stable distribution. You say you chose Debian: is openSUSE an option for you? I have binary RPM packages for openSUSE 11.2 based on gnustep-make 2.2.0, -base 1.19.3, and -gui and -back 0.17.1. These were, at the time, classed as 'unstable' versions, but were actually pretty stable. If you are interested, they are at: http://www.rstonehouse.co.uk/extras/GNUstep-2.2.0/openSUSE-11.2/i586/ Alternatively, if you can wait a couple of weeks or so, I am in the process of building the latest stable versions (gnustep-make 2.4.0 etc) for the recent openSUSE 11.3 release, and intend to make binary packages available online when ready. What are my options here? It seems the file organisation for GNUstep in Debian is quite different from the standard one, so getting the latest sources and compiling them myself is quite likely to mess things up completely. Is there an unofficial repository somewhere that would allow to upgrade to more recent versions without breaking everything? On 22 juil. 10, at 12:14, Wolfgang Lux wrote: Eric Brunel wrote: Is there any workaround for this? [...] These versions were released more than two years ago and there have been two major upgrades since then, which contain a substantial amount of bug fixes. In particular, the issue with the modifier keys you observed was fixed shortly before the release of GNUstep back version 0.16, so my recommendation is simply to upgrade to a more recent GNUstep version. -- Richard Stonehouse ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: Weird focus problem with GNUstep applications in WindowMaker
Hi Eric, Eric Brunel wrote: I usually work with both options checked: 'Do not let applications receive the click used to focus windows' and 'Automatically focus new windows'. I just tried to uncheck the last one, as it seemed it could be the cause of the problem, but it didn't work: the problem still happens. I have exactly the opposite. Riccardo ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Weird focus problem with GNUstep applications in WindowMaker
Hello all, I'm currently using the latest Debian Linux distribution with WindowMaker as my window manager and a few GNUstep applications, mainly GWorkspace and Terminal. And I have a weird problem with the keyboard focus. The problem seems to happen only when a window is focused automatically by WindowMaker. In this case, most of the time, if I type a key corresponding to a menu shortcut, the corresponding menu item will be triggered. But if the key is not a keyboard shortcut for a menu item, it will go to the application window normally. So for example, if I start to type 'cd' in a terminal window, the 'c' will trigger the Edit/Copy menu item, and only the 'd' will appear in the terminal. There doesn't seem to be any visual hint when the problem happens, the window seems focused, with its title bar in the correct style. And the problem does not always happen, but happens quite often anyway. Usually, clicking on another window, then back on the previous one, or playing with the window a bit will solve the problem. But if another window is opened on top of it and then closed, the focus might get messed up again This forces me to be very careful and test every window each time it gets focused automatically, which is quite painful. I had the same problem after resizing an already active window too. I tried changing a few WindowMaker options, like 'Do not let applications receive the click used to focus windows' and 'Automatically focus new windows', but whether they're checked or not, the problem still happens. Is there any workaround for this? Or a trick to make it work correctly? The versions I'm using are the ones included in Debian 5.0 (lenny), which are: WindowMaker 0.92.0 GNUstep make 2.0.6 GNUstep base 1.16.1 GNUstep GUI 0.14.0 GNUstep back 0.14 Thanks! - Eric - ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: Weird focus problem with GNUstep applications in WindowMaker
What settings do you have selected in the WindowMaker preferences? GC On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Eric Brunel eric.bru...@pragmadev.com wrote: Hello all, I'm currently using the latest Debian Linux distribution with WindowMaker as my window manager and a few GNUstep applications, mainly GWorkspace and Terminal. And I have a weird problem with the keyboard focus. The problem seems to happen only when a window is focused automatically by WindowMaker. In this case, most of the time, if I type a key corresponding to a menu shortcut, the corresponding menu item will be triggered. But if the key is not a keyboard shortcut for a menu item, it will go to the application window normally. So for example, if I start to type 'cd' in a terminal window, the 'c' will trigger the Edit/Copy menu item, and only the 'd' will appear in the terminal. There doesn't seem to be any visual hint when the problem happens, the window seems focused, with its title bar in the correct style. And the problem does not always happen, but happens quite often anyway. Usually, clicking on another window, then back on the previous one, or playing with the window a bit will solve the problem. But if another window is opened on top of it and then closed, the focus might get messed up again This forces me to be very careful and test every window each time it gets focused automatically, which is quite painful. I had the same problem after resizing an already active window too. I tried changing a few WindowMaker options, like 'Do not let applications receive the click used to focus windows' and 'Automatically focus new windows', but whether they're checked or not, the problem still happens. Is there any workaround for this? Or a trick to make it work correctly? The versions I'm using are the ones included in Debian 5.0 (lenny), which are: WindowMaker 0.92.0 GNUstep make 2.0.6 GNUstep base 1.16.1 GNUstep GUI 0.14.0 GNUstep back 0.14 Thanks! - Eric - ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
