[ACFUG Discuss] dreamweaver cs4 component error
Ok After pulling my hair out I have to resort to asking for help. In DW cs4 I setup a site with current folder containing cfc's. I can't get them listed in the components tab, but the db, bindings and server components are listed. Is there a trick to this that I am missing. In previous versions it would list the cfc's and I could inspect them and drag them onto the page. There is a mapping in CF to this directory. Everything works normal on machine with DW 6.1 and CF 7 Anyone know how to solve this. Note: I am not creating new cfc's, but even that fails with message about url prefix. HELP!! RL
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] dreamweaver cs4 component error
Just to be clear, Robert, the listing of the components in the DW feature is driven from the server-side via RDS (just like the list of datasources, etc.), so if there's a problem with DW seeing it, it's not about the setup of your site (assuming your site points to the server with the CFCs) but rather with how things are configured on the server. Here's another way to check things out: what happens when you visit the built-in CF CFC browser: http://[server]/cfide/componentutils/componentdoc.cfm If it doesn't show up there, then it may be that perhaps the mapping is wrong. Both of these are ways to view what CF thinks are the CFCs in its path of alternative locations (webroot, mapping paths, custom tag paths, etc.) But that said, I'm not 100% positive that either of these tools is 100% accurate in looking in the correct range of path locations. You'd hope so. Indeed, you may say, well, I know CF can find the CFC because I can invoke it in code. It's possible though that either these tools aren't finding what CF does, or it may well be that what CF finds isn't the CFC you're looking for in DW. :-) It may find it somewhere else in its search path. You may want to look at the debugging output or use the CF functions to identify for sure what CFC you invoke in code. Hope that's helpful. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lash Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:33 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] dreamweaver cs4 component error Ok After pulling my hair out I have to resort to asking for help. In DW cs4 I setup a site with current folder containing cfc's. I can't get them listed in the components tab, but the db, bindings and server components are listed. Is there a trick to this that I am missing. In previous versions it would list the cfc's and I could inspect them and drag them onto the page. There is a mapping in CF to this directory. Everything works normal on machine with DW 6.1 and CF 7 Anyone know how to solve this. Note: I am not creating new cfc's, but even that fails with message about url prefix. HELP!! RL - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework
Just to note on FW1 it is very small. I think Sean is trying to bridge the gap between procedural and fusebox people and the heavier frameworks. FW1 is light and design to be easy to use. Should come in handy for certain apps. John ma...@fusionlink.com Douglas Knudsen wrote: to add to this whole topic http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/Introducing_FW1 Mr Corfield is at work on yet another framework Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Dean H. Saxe d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com mailto:d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com wrote: That's the point of MVC. The view is independent of the controller and the data (er, model). -dhs -- Dean H. Saxe d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com mailto:d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com A true conservationist is a person who knows that the world is not given by his fathers, but borrowed from his children. -- John James Audubon On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Burnham wrote: My understanding is your model is a model of the application data, and the data resulting from a call to an event is rendered in place of the view. The controller orchestrates everything up through the data rendering, then your front-end technology consumes the data for display. I guess in a general sense we're still talking MVC concepts, but the framework itself doesn't render the view, and you are not accessing any of the framework from the view. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Dean H. Saxe d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com mailto:d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com wrote: The data is the model. The view is Flex/Ajax. -dhs -- Dean H. Saxe d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com mailto:d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com A true conservationist is a person who knows that the world is not given by his fathers, but borrowed from his children. -- John James Audubon On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Burnham wrote: I'd argue that by using Flex or Ajax you are not using MVC anymore, but you are using a remote event-driven framework. The M C would still be there, but the framework doesn't render a view - it's rendering data. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Dean H. Saxe d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com mailto:d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com wrote: ORM has nothing to do with MVC. ORM is all about mapping objects to relational databases. One can use MVC without objects and without a relational database. Conversely, one can use an ORM without using MVC. So the two sets of frameworks should not be confused. -dhs -- Dean H. Saxe d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com mailto:d...@fullfrontalnerdity.com A true conservationist is a person who knows that the world is not given by his fathers, but borrowed from his children. -- John James Audubon On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Douglas Knudsen wrote: I'd argue that if you can't use one of these MVC frameworks with Flex or AJAX, it might not be so MVC, eh? :) Also to point out, ORMs are really a extension of these tools mentioned, they are not MVC frameworks on their own. Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Teddy R. Payne teddyrpa...@gmail.com mailto:teddyrpa...@gmail.com wrote: Flex calling a framework is a nice feature. Model-Glue, unless it has changed recently, takes advantage of ColdSpring. Using the RemoteObjectProxy in ColdSpring made it pretty simple to create a webservice that calls the result of several dependent CFC objects created in the application to be available as a webservice. The RemoteObjectProxy also obfuscates the original CFC and it dependent objects as the invocation code doesn't exist in the generated proxy. I see from the ColdBox architectural framework graphic that ColdBox mentions LightWire. I would have to see how this would be achieved in LightWire. So, without using a Flex framework, my CFC calls are definitely made easier when I consume a RemoteObject in Flex. The caveat here is that ColdSpring or LightWire is YAF (Yet Another Framework). Teddy - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework
Just to add to this discussion, the 'model' in mvc will contain services, gateways, value objects, etc. These components (cfc based 99% of the time) interact with either another application (which may be an entirely different MVC app) or a database engine (which you could yet again be considered to be a separate external app) that simply provides data. Important thing to note, most databases are relational so the model will convert that logic to an object oriented picture for the app to use. So instead of using a query object like a spreadsheet, you convert to a list of objects (like value objects). Look at Transfer and the new CF9 Hibernate features to see how this logic works. Now, the key difference between any MVC framework is in the controller logic. The views should be essentially the same: containing things like forms, data lists, and similar presentation logic. The 'view' contains cfoutput, html, javascript, but NOT service calls like cfquery or cfhttp. Service calls are in the 'model'. The model can actually be rather complex in itself, but should again be independent of the MVC logic. Your 'views' and 'model' should not be very different based on your framework choice. However, the controller is where the real differences exist between the frameworks. One is not naturally better than another. Some don't scale as well like a front controller frameworks, but most of the decisions at this point deal with your comfort in programming. In the CF MVC world, you have several different types of controllers to work with.. Framework Controller Logic Explanation (what does that fancy tern mean) Homebaked Usually a Front Controller Direct call to services (usually very tighly coupled between view logic and model service calls) Fusebox Front Controller Direct call to services (tight coupling between view and model) Mach-II Implicit Invocation (Observer pattern) Events are fired which a listener then handles and calls services (loose coupling between views and model) Model-Glue Implicit Invocation (Observer pattern) Events are fired which a listener then handles and calls services (loose coupling between views and model) Coldbox Convention over Configuration (CoC) Also event driven but no xml configuration. Naming and convention handles the controlling logic (medium coupling in my view - but some may argue this point) Coldspring is not a MVC framework in itself. It's a object creation tool to help with object (cfc) dependencies and such. If you do use one the advance frameworks and properly code out your 'model', then coldspring will come in very handy. As a fyi, it follows the factory design and Inversion of Control (IoC) patterns. - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning a ColdFusion Framework
If you look in the ReadMe on the root of the SVN, I think he says that is a sample app. On Tuesday, July 21, 2009, Teddy R. Payne teddyrpa...@gmail.com wrote: I read through the wiki for FW/1. For something small, there is still some nuance there. I see some code examples and where to put various files, but a sample application is what is really needed there. Perhaps I missed the location of the sample application. From what he is describing is probably the gap between a large framework and creating a more organized code structure. You don't have to have something monolithic to have code and directory structure standards. A set location for views, your controller, a bean factory, and a place to reference model data is really the basis for any application. Sean just added some extra wiring to interpret from a directory structure instead of defining explicitly the connections between the M, V, and C. Teddy -- -- Howard Fore, howard.f...@hofo.com The worthwhile problems are the ones you can really solve or help solve, the ones you can really contribute something to. ... No problem is too small or too trivial if we can really do something about it. - Richard P. Feynman - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
