[ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
I have a flash form that collects data from the user, the user then submits to an action page where that data is used to form an e-mail and that is sent - everything works great, except now I'm trying to set the timeout attribute in cfform to 300 seconds so that the user can press the back button from the action page to return to the form if necessary. The form loads successfully, but all the data the user had entered is gone - the form is like it's being loaded anew. The code looks like this (with the names changed to protect the innocent: xxx Carpentry Custodial Electrical Elevator Technician Housekeeping HVAC Landscaping Locksmith Mail Room/Receiving Mechanical Paint Plumbing Space Planning Any help is determing why data is not maintained as documented would be greatly appreciated. Craig Nassal Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 (404)498-8437 craig.nas...@atl.frb.org - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
Wow, I never even realized CFFORM had a timeout for Flash forms. It is indeed intended to deal with this very issue (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec 10372-7fed.html, which is for cf9, but the same was said on the same page in the Dev Guide in CF7). Don't know why it's not working. I assume you're saying that they are hitting "back" within 300 seconds of having submitted the form, right? We all know (ok, most know) that hitting back on html forms can lose data, depending on the browser, and whether it caches the page (configurable in the browser). I would have thought this would not apply to Flash forms, but perhaps it does. Have you confirmed, Craig, if your problem is happening on all browsers (IE, Firefox, Chrome, to start), and different versions in a browser? Even if you're in an environment where "only IE 6 is allowed" or something, it's still worth testing just to see if indeed it is a browser-specific issue. And remember, it could be dependent on setting within any one browser (so that even on a specific browser and version, like IE 6, it works one way for one user and another for a different user, by their browser caching control settings.) /charlie > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:02 AM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout > attribute > > I have a flash form that collects data from the user, the user then > submits to an action page where that data is used to form an e-mail and > that is sent - everything works great, except now I'm trying to set the > timeout attribute in cfform to 300 seconds so that the user can press the > back button from the action page to return to the form if necessary. The > form loads successfully, but all the data the user had entered is gone - > the form is like it's being loaded anew. The code looks like this (with > the names changed to protect the innocent: > > height="700" width="800" timeout="300"> > name="currdate" value="#DateFormat(now(), "mm/dd/")#"> > name="requestor" size="50" maxlength="50" required="yes" message="Please > enter requestor"> > size="1" required="yes" message="Please select your company name"> > > value="aaa"> > value="">xxx > > > name="reqdescription" size="1" required="yes" message="Please select > shop"> > > value="carpentry">Carpentry > value="custodial">Custodial > value="electrical">Electrical > value="elevatortechnician">Elevator Technician > value="housekeeping">Housekeeping > HVAC > value="landscaping">Landscaping > value="locksmith">Locksmith > value="mailroomreceiving">Mail Room/Receiving > value="mechanical">Mechanical > value="paint">Paint > value="plumbing">Plumbing > value="spaceplanning">Space Planning > > name="svsrequest" cols="40" rows="6" maxlength="750" required="yes" > message="Please enter Service Request Field" /> > name="addlcomments" cols="40" rows="6" maxlength="750" /> > value="Submit"> > > > Any help is determing why data is not maintained as documented would be > greatly appreciated. > > Craig Nassa
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
I see that your value is 'timeout="300"'. In most other cases where a timeout value is used, the numeric value is in milliseconds. If this is also true for your value here, the value is actually only .3 seconds, in which case, the timeout value has most likely passed by the time the action has taken place. Just a thought. Troy Jones ___ Troy Jones | Director of Technical Services | Dynapp Inc | 1-800-830-5192 ext. 603 | dynapp.com | facebook.com/dynapp -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:00 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Wow, I never even realized CFFORM had a timeout for Flash forms. It is indeed intended to deal with this very issue (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec 10372-7fed.html, which is for cf9, but the same was said on the same page in the Dev Guide in CF7). Don't know why it's not working. I assume you're saying that they are hitting "back" within 300 seconds of having submitted the form, right? We all know (ok, most know) that hitting back on html forms can lose data, depending on the browser, and whether it caches the page (configurable in the browser). I would have thought this would not apply to Flash forms, but perhaps it does. Have you confirmed, Craig, if your problem is happening on all browsers (IE, Firefox, Chrome, to start), and different versions in a browser? Even if you're in an environment where "only IE 6 is allowed" or something, it's still worth testing just to see if indeed it is a browser-specific issue. And remember, it could be dependent on setting within any one browser (so that even on a specific browser and version, like IE 6, it works one way for one user and another for a different user, by their browser caching control settings.) /charlie > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:02 AM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout > attribute > > I have a flash form that collects data from the user, the user then > submits to an action page where that data is used to form an e-mail and > that is sent - everything works great, except now I'm trying to set the > timeout attribute in cfform to 300 seconds so that the user can press the > back button from the action page to return to the form if necessary. The > form loads successfully, but all the data the user had entered is gone - > the form is like it's being loaded anew. The code looks like this (with > the names changed to protect the innocent: > > height="700" width="800" timeout="300"> > name="currdate" value="#DateFormat(now(), "mm/dd/")#"> > name="requestor" size="50" maxlength="50" required="yes" message="Please > enter requestor"> > size="1" required="yes" message="Please select your company name"> > > value="aaa"> > value="">xxx > > > name="reqdescription" size="1" required="yes" message="Please select > shop"> > > value="carpentry">Carpentry > value="custodial">Custodial > value="electrical">Electrical > value="elevatortechnician">Elevator Technician > value="housekeeping">Housekeeping > HVAC > value="landscaping">Landscaping > value="locksmith">Locksmith > value="mailroomreceiving">Mail Room/Receiving > value="mechanical">Mechanical >
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
I don't know: most timeout attributes I think of in CFML (CFQUERY, CFHTTP, CFSETTING RequestTimeout) are in seconds. Anyway, to be clear, the timeout in CFFORM is indeed in seconds: http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf9/#cfform /charlie > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Troy Jones > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout > attribute > > I see that your value is 'timeout="300"'. In most other cases where a timeout > value is used, the numeric value is in milliseconds. If this is also true for > your value here, the value is actually only .3 seconds, in which case, the > timeout value has most likely passed by the time the action has taken place. > > Just a thought. > > Troy Jones > > - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
Yes - I have confirmed that the timeout value, according to doc, is in seconds.unless that's a misprint in the doc. Craig Nassal Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 (404)498-8437 craig.nas...@atl.frb.org From: "Charlie Arehart" To: Date: 07/14/10 12:16 PM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Sent by:ad...@acfug.org I don't know: most timeout attributes I think of in CFML (CFQUERY, CFHTTP, CFSETTING RequestTimeout) are in seconds. Anyway, to be clear, the timeout in CFFORM is indeed in seconds: http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf9/#cfform /charlie > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Troy Jones > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout > attribute > > I see that your value is 'timeout="300"'. In most other cases where a timeout > value is used, the numeric value is in milliseconds. If this is also true for > your value here, the value is actually only .3 seconds, in which case, the > timeout value has most likely passed by the time the action has taken place. > > Just a thought. > > Troy Jones > > - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
I was thinking particularly of the timeout value of cfthread and the requestTimeout value of cfsetting. I could also be wrong, like I said, it was just a thought and a place to look. Troy Jones ___ Troy Jones | Director of Technical Services | Dynapp Inc | 1-800-830-5192 ext. 603 | dynapp.com | facebook.com/dynapp -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of craig.nas...@atl.frb.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:00 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Yes - I have confirmed that the timeout value, according to doc, is in seconds.unless that's a misprint in the doc. Craig Nassal Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 (404)498-8437 craig.nas...@atl.frb.org From: "Charlie Arehart" To: Date: 07/14/10 12:16 PM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Sent by:ad...@acfug.org I don't know: most timeout attributes I think of in CFML (CFQUERY, CFHTTP, CFSETTING RequestTimeout) are in seconds. Anyway, to be clear, the timeout in CFFORM is indeed in seconds: http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf9/#cfform /charlie > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Troy Jones > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout > attribute > > I see that your value is 'timeout="300"'. In most other cases where a timeout > value is used, the numeric value is in milliseconds. If this is also true for > your value here, the value is actually only .3 seconds, in which case, the > timeout value has most likely passed by the time the action has taken place. > > Just a thought. > > Troy Jones > > - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3004 - Release Date: 07/14/10 02:36:00 - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
Are there any settings in cfadmin that would override this timeout value?? Craig Nassal Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 (404)498-8437 craig.nas...@atl.frb.org From: Troy Jones To: "discussion@acfug.org" Date: 07/14/10 01:05 PM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Sent by:ad...@acfug.org I was thinking particularly of the timeout value of cfthread and the requestTimeout value of cfsetting. I could also be wrong, like I said, it was just a thought and a place to look. Troy Jones ___ Troy Jones | Director of Technical Services | Dynapp Inc | 1-800-830-5192 ext. 603 | dynapp.com | facebook.com/dynapp -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of craig.nas...@atl.frb.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:00 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Yes - I have confirmed that the timeout value, according to doc, is in seconds.unless that's a misprint in the doc. Craig Nassal Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 (404)498-8437 craig.nas...@atl.frb.org From: "Charlie Arehart" To: Date: 07/14/10 12:16 PM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Sent by:ad...@acfug.org I don't know: most timeout attributes I think of in CFML (CFQUERY, CFHTTP, CFSETTING RequestTimeout) are in seconds. Anyway, to be clear, the timeout in CFFORM is indeed in seconds: http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf9/#cfform /charlie > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Troy Jones > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout > attribute > > I see that your value is 'timeout="300"'. In most other cases where a timeout > value is used, the numeric value is in milliseconds. If this is also true for > your value here, the value is actually only .3 seconds, in which case, the > timeout value has most likely passed by the time the action has taken place. > > Just a thought. > > Troy Jones > > - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3004 - Release Date: 07/14/10 02:36:00 - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
Not to be a jerk or anything but this is EXACTLY why I don't use any of the built in "CF_" widgets... Not trying to troll here but, since the discussion happened a few months back I'd thought I'd just throw that out there. Stuff like this seems to happen a lot and fixing it takes longer than rebuilding... I think Troy is probably on the right track, check the page timeout. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Troy Jones wrote: > I was thinking particularly of the timeout value of cfthread and the > requestTimeout value of cfsetting. I could also be wrong, like I said, it > was just a thought and a place to look. > > Troy Jones > > > > ___ > > Troy Jones | Director of Technical Services | Dynapp Inc | > 1-800-830-5192 ext. 603 | dynapp.com | facebook.com/dynapp > > > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:00 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the > timeout attribute > > Yes - I have confirmed that the timeout value, according to doc, is in > seconds.unless that's a misprint in the doc. > > > Craig Nassal > > Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta > 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. > Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 > (404)498-8437 > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > > > > From: "Charlie Arehart" > To: > Date: 07/14/10 12:16 PM > Subject:RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using > the timeout attribute > Sent by:ad...@acfug.org > > > > I don't know: most timeout attributes I think of in CFML (CFQUERY, CFHTTP, > CFSETTING > RequestTimeout) are in seconds. > > Anyway, to be clear, the timeout in CFFORM is indeed in seconds: > http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf9/#cfform > > /charlie > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Troy Jones > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM > > To: discussion@acfug.org > > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the > timeout > > attribute > > > > I see that your value is 'timeout="300"'. In most other cases where a > timeout > > value is used, the numeric value is in milliseconds. If this is also > true for > > your value here, the value is actually only .3 seconds, in which case, > the > > timeout value has most likely passed by the time the action has taken > place. > > > > Just a thought. > > > > Troy Jones > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3004 - Release Date: 07/14/10 > 02:36:00 > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?falogin.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > -- Steve Ross web application & interface developer http://blog.stevensross.com [mobile] (912) 344-8113 [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ]
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
Nothing related to CFFORM Timeout that I have ever seen, no. Could you respond to the questions/suggestions I'd made about confirming the behavior in other browsers? /charlie > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:11 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout > attribute > > Are there any settings in cfadmin that would override this timeout value?? > > > Craig Nassal > > Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta > 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. > Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 > (404)498-8437 > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
Well, to be clear, Craig was referring to a (quite old) Flash Form based feature. I don't know if it would be fair to throw all CF "widgets" under the bus. There have been some nicer ones since the Ajax features were added in CF 8. Still, I realize that some may still have issues with them. As for Troy's comment, I don't think he was suggesting that the page timeout would have any connection to this, just that he thought it was specified in ms. (It's not, that's in seconds, too.) And FWIW, I would assert that there's not likely any connection at all between the page timeout and this CFFORM timeout. The page timeout has to do with how long a request can run (while it's executing). This CFFORM timeout seems instead to be more like a mini version of a session, in that it lives on the server across requests. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Ross Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:14 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Not to be a jerk or anything but this is EXACTLY why I don't use any of the built in "CF_" widgets... Not trying to troll here but, since the discussion happened a few months back I'd thought I'd just throw that out there. Stuff like this seems to happen a lot and fixing it takes longer than rebuilding... I think Troy is probably on the right track, check the page timeout. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Troy Jones wrote: I was thinking particularly of the timeout value of cfthread and the requestTimeout value of cfsetting. I could also be wrong, like I said, it was just a thought and a place to look. Troy Jones __ _ Troy Jones | Director of Technical Services | Dynapp Inc | 1-800-830-5192 ext. 603 | dynapp.com | facebook.com/dynapp -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of craig.nas...@atl.frb.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:00 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Yes - I have confirmed that the timeout value, according to doc, is in seconds.unless that's a misprint in the doc. Craig Nassal Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 (404)498-8437 craig.nas...@atl.frb.org From: "Charlie Arehart" To: Date: 07/14/10 12:16 PM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Sent by:ad...@acfug.org I don't know: most timeout attributes I think of in CFML (CFQUERY, CFHTTP, CFSETTING RequestTimeout) are in seconds. Anyway, to be clear, the timeout in CFFORM is indeed in seconds: http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf9/#cfform /charlie > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Troy Jones > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout > attribute > > I see that your value is 'timeout="300"'. In most other cases where a timeout > value is used, the numeric value is in milliseconds. If this is also true for > your value here, the value is actually only .3 seconds, in which case, the > timeout value has most likely passed by the time the action has taken place. > > Just a thought. > > Troy Jones > > - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3004 - Release Date: 07/14/10 02:36:00 - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?falogin.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com --
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
If that is the case it might be worth checking the timeout settings in the flash remoting configs... if I remember correctly there is a separate one in there. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Charlie Arehart wrote: > Well, to be clear, Craig was referring to a (quite old) Flash Form based > feature. I don’t know if it would be fair to throw all CF “widgets” under > the bus. There have been some nicer ones since the Ajax features were added > in CF 8. Still, I realize that some may still have issues with them. > > As for Troy’s comment, I don’t think he was suggesting that the page > timeout would have any connection to this, just that he thought it was > specified in ms. (It’s not, that’s in seconds, too.) And FWIW, I would > assert that there’s not likely any connection at all between the page > timeout and this CFFORM timeout. The page timeout has to do with how long a > request can run (while it’s executing). This CFFORM timeout seems instead to > be more like a mini version of a session, in that it lives on the server > across requests. > > > > /charlie > > > > *From:* ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ross > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:14 PM > *To:* discussion@acfug.org > *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the > timeout attribute > > > > Not to be a jerk or anything but this is EXACTLY why I don't use any of the > built in "CF_" widgets... > > > > Not trying to troll here but, since the discussion happened a few months > back I'd thought I'd just throw that out there. Stuff like this seems to > happen a lot and fixing it takes longer than rebuilding... > > > > I think Troy is probably on the right track, check the page timeout. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Troy Jones wrote: > > I was thinking particularly of the timeout value of cfthread and the > requestTimeout value of cfsetting. I could also be wrong, like I said, it > was just a thought and a place to look. > > Troy Jones > > > > ___ > > Troy Jones | Director of Technical Services | Dynapp Inc | > 1-800-830-5192 ext. 603 | dynapp.com | facebook.com/dynapp > > > > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:00 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > > Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the > timeout attribute > > Yes - I have confirmed that the timeout value, according to doc, is in > seconds.unless that's a misprint in the doc. > > > Craig Nassal > > Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta > 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. > Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 > (404)498-8437 > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > > > > From: "Charlie Arehart" > To: > Date: 07/14/10 12:16 PM > Subject:RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using > the timeout attribute > Sent by:ad...@acfug.org > > > > I don't know: most timeout attributes I think of in CFML (CFQUERY, CFHTTP, > CFSETTING > RequestTimeout) are in seconds. > > Anyway, to be clear, the timeout in CFFORM is indeed in seconds: > http://www.cfquickdocs.com/cf9/#cfform > > /charlie > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Troy Jones > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM > > To: discussion@acfug.org > > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the > timeout > > attribute > > > > I see that your value is 'timeout="300"'. In most other cases where a > timeout > > value is used, the numeric value is in milliseconds. If this is also > true for > > your value here, the value is actually only .3 seconds, in which case, > the > > timeout value has most likely passed by the time the action has taken > place. > > > > Just a thought. > > > > Troy Jones > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > > &
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
Do you mean in an xml file or in the CF Admin? The CF Admin has no settings related to timeouts for flash remoting (or CFFORM) specifically. (I checked, and I even searched the Admin guide.) If you mean an XML file that may have an effect, that sounds interesting. It wouldn't be the first time a setting was not exposed in the CF Admin. If you or anyone else knows the details for Craig, please pass them along. /charlie From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Ross Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:29 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute If that is the case it might be worth checking the timeout settings in the flash remoting configs... if I remember correctly there is a separate one in there. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Charlie Arehart wrote: Well, to be clear, Craig was referring to a (quite old) Flash Form based feature. I don't know if it would be fair to throw all CF "widgets" under the bus. There have been some nicer ones since the Ajax features were added in CF 8. Still, I realize that some may still have issues with them. As for Troy's comment, I don't think he was suggesting that the page timeout would have any connection to this, just that he thought it was specified in ms. (It's not, that's in seconds, too.) And FWIW, I would assert that there's not likely any connection at all between the page timeout and this CFFORM timeout. The page timeout has to do with how long a request can run (while it's executing). This CFFORM timeout seems instead to be more like a mini version of a session, in that it lives on the server across requests. /charlie - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
Tested in firefox with the same result as ie... Craig Nassal Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 (404)498-8437 craig.nas...@atl.frb.org From: "Charlie Arehart" To: Cc: Date: 07/14/10 01:20 PM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Sent by:ad...@acfug.org Nothing related to CFFORM Timeout that I have ever seen, no. Could you respond to the questions/suggestions I'd made about confirming the behavior in other browsers? /charlie > -Original Message- > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:11 PM > To: discussion@acfug.org > Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout > attribute > > Are there any settings in cfadmin that would override this timeout value?? > > > Craig Nassal > > Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta > 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. > Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 > (404)498-8437 > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
No I meant some setting inside the CF config (xml) files... I'm at a loss... can you run the request w/o using the CFFORM to see how long it takes to run? On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:13 PM, wrote: > Tested in firefox with the same result as ie... > > > Craig Nassal > > Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta > 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. > Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 > (404)498-8437 > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > > > > From: "Charlie Arehart" > To: > Cc: > Date: 07/14/10 01:20 PM > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using > the timeout attribute > Sent by:ad...@acfug.org > > > > Nothing related to CFFORM Timeout that I have ever seen, no. > > Could you respond to the questions/suggestions I'd made about confirming > the behavior > in other browsers? > > /charlie > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of > > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:11 PM > > To: discussion@acfug.org > > Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org > > Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the > timeout > > attribute > > > > Are there any settings in cfadmin that would override this timeout > value?? > > > > > > Craig Nassal > > > > Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta > > 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. > > Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 > > (404)498-8437 > > craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > - > > > > -- Steve Ross web application & interface developer http://blog.stevensross.com [mobile] (912) 344-8113 [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ]
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
Actually I don't think he's saying that the script is timing out, he's saying that you get the "form expired" message when you hit the back button. From: Steve Ross To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 2:19:18 PM Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute No I meant some setting inside the CF config (xml) files... I'm at a loss... can you run the request w/o using the CFFORM to see how long it takes to run? On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:13 PM, wrote: Tested in firefox with the same result as ie... > > > >Craig Nassal > >Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta >1000 Peachtree St. N.E. >Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 >(404)498-8437 >craig.nas...@atl.frb.org > > > > >From: "Charlie Arehart" > >To: >Cc: >Date: 07/14/10 01:20 PM > >Subject:RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using >the timeout attribute > >Sent by:ad...@acfug.org > > > > >Nothing related to CFFORM Timeout that I have ever seen, no. > >Could you respond to the questions/suggestions I'd made about confirming >the behavior >in other browsers? > >/charlie > > >> -Original Message- >> From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of >> craig.nas...@atl.frb.org >> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:11 PM >> To: discussion@acfug.org >> Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org >> Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the >timeout >> attribute >> >> Are there any settings in cfadmin that would override this timeout >value?? >> >> >> Craig Nassal >> >> Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta >> 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. >> Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 >> (404)498-8437 >> craig.nas...@atl.frb.org >> > > > > >- >To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ >http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > >For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists >Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ >List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com >- > > > > > > > > >- >To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ >http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > >For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists >Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ >List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com >- > > > > -- Steve Ross web application & interface developer http://blog.stevensross.com [mobile] (912) 344-8113 [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute
I would give the timeout a very large number to test the effects. So something like 30 just to see. Steve is right. It may just be far easier to redo this is Flex anyway. The CF Flash forms are in Flex 1.5 and haven't been touched in years. God only knows what the recent flash players are going to do (and the effects they'll show over time). It's one of those half-baked features that Adobe hasn't done anything with. In Flex you will have better control of what's happening with the form. John ma...@fusionlink.com On 7/14/10 2:27 PM, shawn gorrell wrote: Actually I don't think he's saying that the script is timing out, he's saying that you get the "form expired" message when you hit the back button. From: Steve Ross To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 2:19:18 PM Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute No I meant some setting inside the CF config (xml) files... I'm at a loss... can you run the request w/o using the CFFORM to see how long it takes to run? On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:13 PM, wrote: Tested in firefox with the same result as ie... Craig Nassal Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 (404)498-8437 craig.nas...@atl.frb.org From: "Charlie Arehart" To: Cc: Date: 07/14/10 01:20 PM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Sent by:ad...@acfug.org Nothing related to CFFORM Timeout that I have ever seen, no. Could you respond to the questions/suggestions I'd made about confirming the behavior in other browsers? /charlie -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of craig.nas...@atl.frb.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:11 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Cc: ad...@acfug.org; discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Preserving data on flash forms using the timeout attribute Are there any settings in cfadmin that would override this timeout value?? Craig Nassal Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta 1000 Peachtree St. N.E. Atlanta, Ga 30309-4470 (404)498-8437 craig.nas...@atl.frb.org - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
