Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
Implicit getters/setters The cfproperty will generate the implicit getters and setters on the backend to save you from writing the code. nice! Was overriding mentioned for these? DK On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted my notes from the keynote this morning at my blog, www.codfusion.com The keynote covered a lot of new features coming in the next release of Coldfusion. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
Yes, so if you have your own getters/setters then CF will use those. If they are not present, then the implicit ones will take effect. I can only imagine how much code this will save everyone from typing. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:39 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote Implicit getters/setters The cfproperty will generate the implicit getters and setters on the backend to save you from writing the code. nice! Was overriding mentioned for these? DK On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted my notes from the keynote this morning at my blog, www.codfusion.com The keynote covered a lot of new features coming in the next release of Coldfusion. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
I also saw that CF will now be FREE for academic use, including Enterprise. That's fantastic. Very very cool. -Cameron On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Implicit getters/setters The cfproperty will generate the implicit getters and setters on the backend to save you from writing the code. nice! Was overriding mentioned for these? DK On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted my notes from the keynote this morning at my blog, www.codfusion.com The keynote covered a lot of new features coming in the next release of Coldfusion. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
What if you have already written your own framework to use the cfproperty tag for this very thing? I guess I'll have to wait and see. Gerry Gurevich Application Development NIEHS ITSS Contractor Lockheed Martin Information Technology 919-361-5444 ext 311 -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:55 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote Yes, so if you have your own getters/setters then CF will use those. If they are not present, then the implicit ones will take effect. I can only imagine how much code this will save everyone from typing. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:39 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote Implicit getters/setters The cfproperty will generate the implicit getters and setters on the backend to save you from writing the code. nice! Was overriding mentioned for these? DK On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted my notes from the keynote this morning at my blog, www.codfusion.com The keynote covered a lot of new features coming in the next release of Coldfusion. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
Which of course sucks if you want encapsulation and limits on the setters/getters based on authorization. Is this controllable in some manner? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free speech exercised both individually and through a free press, is a necessity in any country where people are themselves free. -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1918 On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote: Implicit getters/setters The cfproperty will generate the implicit getters and setters on the backend to save you from writing the code. nice! Was overriding mentioned for these? DK On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted my notes from the keynote this morning at my blog, www.codfusion.com The keynote covered a lot of new features coming in the next release of Coldfusion. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
I should say beyond having to implement your own setters/getters... which still doesn't really solve the problem of properties which you explicitly do not want setters/getters on unless you throw exceptions on the unimplemented ones. Yuck. -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964 On Jun 18, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Dean H. Saxe wrote: Which of course sucks if you want encapsulation and limits on the setters/getters based on authorization. Is this controllable in some manner? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free speech exercised both individually and through a free press, is a necessity in any country where people are themselves free. -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1918 On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote: Implicit getters/setters The cfproperty will generate the implicit getters and setters on the backend to save you from writing the code. nice! Was overriding mentioned for these? DK On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted my notes from the keynote this morning at my blog, www.codfusion.com The keynote covered a lot of new features coming in the next release of Coldfusion. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
These sorts of questions are why people participate in alpha/beta programs. These are all points which should be brought up and aired out WAY before the final bits ship. Some thoughts come to mind 1) Add access attributes to cfproperty for public/private 2) Add roles attribute for authorization 3) Override anything that required more complex logic 4) Type attribute already exists in cfproperty, implicit getter setter could check types based on that These already exist in other areas of CF. Would be intuitive to add them. This is pretty much how ActionScript 3 works BTW. -Cameron On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which of course sucks if you want encapsulation and limits on the setters/getters based on authorization. Is this controllable in some manner? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free speech exercised both individually and through a free press, is a necessity in any country where people are themselves free. -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1918 On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote: Implicit getters/setters The cfproperty will generate the implicit getters and setters on the backend to save you from writing the code. nice! Was overriding mentioned for these? DK On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted my notes from the keynote this morning at my blog, www.codfusion.com The keynote covered a lot of new features coming in the next release of Coldfusion. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
What I would want to is annotate the properties to say whether the getter/setter should be autogenerated, that way it leaves control to the developer. I like the idea of the addition of a roles check for authorization to call specific setters/getters. Also, is the autogenerated setter/getter secure? Remember, java passes by value... the value is a reference to the original object except for primitive types, in which case it is a copy of the primitive (e.g. String). So for object references, if I use the getter to get a CFC reference (e.g. myFoo.getBar() returns a Bar CFC), and then modify a property of that CFC using its setter (e.g. bar.setFooBarBlah(blah...)) ... did I just modify the private instance of bar that is held by Foo? This can result in some pretty interesting vulnerabilities... (Yes, this is probably overkill, but why not enquire...) -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds. --Einstein On Jun 18, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: These sorts of questions are why people participate in alpha/beta programs. These are all points which should be brought up and aired out WAY before the final bits ship. Some thoughts come to mind 1) Add access attributes to cfproperty for public/private 2) Add roles attribute for authorization 3) Override anything that required more complex logic 4) Type attribute already exists in cfproperty, implicit getter setter could check types based on that These already exist in other areas of CF. Would be intuitive to add them. This is pretty much how ActionScript 3 works BTW. -Cameron On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which of course sucks if you want encapsulation and limits on the setters/getters based on authorization. Is this controllable in some manner? -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free speech exercised both individually and through a free press, is a necessity in any country where people are themselves free. -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1918 On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote: Implicit getters/setters The cfproperty will generate the implicit getters and setters on the backend to save you from writing the code. nice! Was overriding mentioned for these? DK On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted my notes from the keynote this morning at my blog, www.codfusion.com The keynote covered a lot of new features coming in the next release of Coldfusion. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I would want to is annotate the properties to say whether the getter/setter should be autogenerated, that way it leaves control to the developer. If you don't want it autogenerated, just call it private. It's not generating code in the CFC, just an implicit getter setter. Would a private get/set that you never even have to look at be good enough? Bigger question, what's the use case for a property that you couldn't get/set, even privately? I like the idea of the addition of a roles check for authorization to call specific setters/getters. Cool. Also, is the autogenerated setter/getter secure? Remember, java passes by value... the value is a reference to the original object except for primitive types, in which case it is a copy of the primitive (e.g. String). So for object references, if I use the getter to get a CFC reference (e.g. myFoo.getBar() returns a Bar CFC), and then modify a property of that CFC using its setter (e.g. bar.setFooBarBlah(blah...)) ... did I just modify the private instance of bar that is held by Foo? This can result in some pretty interesting vulnerabilities... (Yes, this is probably overkill, but why not enquire...) In CF, I always assume complex objects (CFCs/Arrays) are always passed by reference. This is the same as explicit functions where you pass in a CFC in a cfargument tag. Frequently, if I have a function that accepts a typed CFC as an argument and the function makes some change to that passed in CFC Instance, I don't even bother returning the modified CFC Instance because it's already been modified by reference. On these functions I usually just return void and get on with it. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
I can see a reason to have auto generated getters and setters based on a database table (and possibly typed) but you can effectivley do this now with a missing method handler... I'm guessing this is based on a table somewhere? On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I would want to is annotate the properties to say whether the getter/setter should be autogenerated, that way it leaves control to the developer. If you don't want it autogenerated, just call it private. It's not generating code in the CFC, just an implicit getter setter. Would a private get/set that you never even have to look at be good enough? Bigger question, what's the use case for a property that you couldn't get/set, even privately? I like the idea of the addition of a roles check for authorization to call specific setters/getters. Cool. Also, is the autogenerated setter/getter secure? Remember, java passes by value... the value is a reference to the original object except for primitive types, in which case it is a copy of the primitive (e.g. String). So for object references, if I use the getter to get a CFC reference (e.g. myFoo.getBar() returns a Bar CFC), and then modify a property of that CFC using its setter (e.g. bar.setFooBarBlah(blah...)) ... did I just modify the private instance of bar that is held by Foo? This can result in some pretty interesting vulnerabilities... (Yes, this is probably overkill, but why not enquire...) In CF, I always assume complex objects (CFCs/Arrays) are always passed by reference. This is the same as explicit functions where you pass in a CFC in a cfargument tag. Frequently, if I have a function that accepts a typed CFC as an argument and the function makes some change to that passed in CFC Instance, I don't even bother returning the modified CFC Instance because it's already been modified by reference. On these functions I usually just return void and get on with it. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Steven Ross web application interface developer http://blog.stevensross.com [mobile] 404-488-4364 [fax] (404) 592-6885 [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
No, if it follows the pattern seen in AS3, it would be something like this... Given a property definition like this: cfcomponent cfproperty name=firstname type=String access=public roles=Admin,User / [] /cfcomponent You'd get two implicit getters/setters with the signature getFirstname(void):String and setFirstname(String):void Access would be controlled by a combination of access level (public/private/package) and authenticated user level - Admin and User roles would have access, another role such as Visitor would not. Of course, this is all based on wild assumptions and predictions on my part and definitely DOES NOT represent any official plan from Adobe for CF9. -Cameron On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see a reason to have auto generated getters and setters based on a database table (and possibly typed) but you can effectivley do this now with a missing method handler... I'm guessing this is based on a table somewhere? On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I would want to is annotate the properties to say whether the getter/setter should be autogenerated, that way it leaves control to the developer. If you don't want it autogenerated, just call it private. It's not generating code in the CFC, just an implicit getter setter. Would a private get/set that you never even have to look at be good enough? Bigger question, what's the use case for a property that you couldn't get/set, even privately? I like the idea of the addition of a roles check for authorization to call specific setters/getters. Cool. Also, is the autogenerated setter/getter secure? Remember, java passes by value... the value is a reference to the original object except for primitive types, in which case it is a copy of the primitive (e.g. String). So for object references, if I use the getter to get a CFC reference (e.g. myFoo.getBar() returns a Bar CFC), and then modify a property of that CFC using its setter (e.g. bar.setFooBarBlah(blah...)) ... did I just modify the private instance of bar that is held by Foo? This can result in some pretty interesting vulnerabilities... (Yes, this is probably overkill, but why not enquire...) In CF, I always assume complex objects (CFCs/Arrays) are always passed by reference. This is the same as explicit functions where you pass in a CFC in a cfargument tag. Frequently, if I have a function that accepts a typed CFC as an argument and the function makes some change to that passed in CFC Instance, I don't even bother returning the modified CFC Instance because it's already been modified by reference. On these functions I usually just return void and get on with it. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Steven Ross web application interface developer http://blog.stevensross.com [mobile] 404-488-4364 [fax] (404) 592-6885 [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote
But that's pretty much what they are talking about and it's how AS3 handles it. I can't see why they would implement it differently. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering VPS Plans running with VMware technology Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Childress Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:34 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUnited Report - Adobe Keynote No, if it follows the pattern seen in AS3, it would be something like this... Given a property definition like this: cfcomponent cfproperty name=firstname type=String access=public roles=Admin,User / [] /cfcomponent You'd get two implicit getters/setters with the signature getFirstname(void):String and setFirstname(String):void Access would be controlled by a combination of access level (public/private/package) and authenticated user level - Admin and User roles would have access, another role such as Visitor would not. Of course, this is all based on wild assumptions and predictions on my part and definitely DOES NOT represent any official plan from Adobe for CF9. -Cameron On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see a reason to have auto generated getters and setters based on a database table (and possibly typed) but you can effectivley do this now with a missing method handler... I'm guessing this is based on a table somewhere? On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I would want to is annotate the properties to say whether the getter/setter should be autogenerated, that way it leaves control to the developer. If you don't want it autogenerated, just call it private. It's not generating code in the CFC, just an implicit getter setter. Would a private get/set that you never even have to look at be good enough? Bigger question, what's the use case for a property that you couldn't get/set, even privately? I like the idea of the addition of a roles check for authorization to call specific setters/getters. Cool. Also, is the autogenerated setter/getter secure? Remember, java passes by value... the value is a reference to the original object except for primitive types, in which case it is a copy of the primitive (e.g. String). So for object references, if I use the getter to get a CFC reference (e.g. myFoo.getBar() returns a Bar CFC), and then modify a property of that CFC using its setter (e.g. bar.setFooBarBlah(blah...)) ... did I just modify the private instance of bar that is held by Foo? This can result in some pretty interesting vulnerabilities... (Yes, this is probably overkill, but why not enquire...) In CF, I always assume complex objects (CFCs/Arrays) are always passed by reference. This is the same as explicit functions where you pass in a CFC in a cfargument tag. Frequently, if I have a function that accepts a typed CFC as an argument and the function makes some change to that passed in CFC Instance, I don't even bother returning the modified CFC Instance because it's already been modified by reference. On these functions I usually just return void and get on with it. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Steven Ross web application interface developer http://blog.stevensross.com [mobile] 404-488-4364 [fax] (404) 592-6885 [ AIM / Yahoo! : zeriumsteven ] [googleTalk : nowhiding ] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http
