Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-07 Thread Carsten Agger

On 2020-05-04 10:23, Carsten Agger wrote:
>
> In the end, what I could get was not a smart "small box" PC, but a
> small-ish traditional Dell stationary with four cores and 12GB of RAM, I
> believe an i7.
>
> Thanks to everyone for the feedback! My BBB instance is now running, and
> for now everyone who wants can register as a user. Feel free to test it
> and also to use it:
>
> https://bigbluebutton.modspil.dk/b
>
> If bandwidth starts becoming an issue at some point, I might close off
> new registrations and make it invitation only, we'll see.
>
After I posted the link I found that camera sharing was not working
because I was connecting to an inactive STUN server. This has been fixed
since Tuesday.

If any of you have had the opportunity to try this server, I'd
appreciate feedback on how it works.  Note that the user interface takes
some getting used to.

Best,
Carsten



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Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-04 Thread Carsten Agger

On 2020-05-04 16:19, Sandro Santilli wrote:
> On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 10:23:11AM +0200, Carsten Agger wrote:
>
>> Thanks to everyone for the feedback! My BBB instance is now running, and
>> for now everyone who wants can register as a user. Feel free to test it
>> and also to use it:
>>
>> https://bigbluebutton.modspil.dk/b
> Nice, thanks! Does BBB support OpenID-2.0 authentication ?

BBB is mainly defined by an API with no frontend except for the HTML 5
client, and therefore they provide a simple front end called Greenlight.

Greenlight supports a number of authentication methods, and since it is
just a simple Ruby on Rails application, you could add one yourself.

However, my instance is only configured to basic user/password login.

Best,
Carsten



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Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-04 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 10:23:11AM +0200, Carsten Agger wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for the feedback! My BBB instance is now running, and
> for now everyone who wants can register as a user. Feel free to test it
> and also to use it:
> 
> https://bigbluebutton.modspil.dk/b

Nice, thanks! Does BBB support OpenID-2.0 authentication ?

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Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-04 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Donnerstag 30 April 2020 20:39:01 schrieb Carsten Agger:
> I'm tempted to go with BigBlueButton - it seems to have everything and
> promises to be easy to install.

You'll be interested in LWN's 
Video conferencing with BigBlueButton
By Jonathan Corbet
April 10, 2020
https://lwn.net/Articles/817146/
(and the companion article about Jitsi, linked there)

Regards,
Bernhard

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Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-04 Thread Carsten Agger

On 02.05.2020 00.34, Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Thursday 30. April 2020 20.39.01 Carsten Agger wrote:
>> I'm thinking og buying a low-power-consumption but powerful computer to
>> set up as a video conferencing/communication server at home as a
>> contribution to a very apparent need and as an alternative to FaceTime,
>> Zoom and whatever.
> I would be interested to know what hardware choice you make, in fact.

In the end, what I could get was not a smart "small box" PC, but a
small-ish traditional Dell stationary with four cores and 12GB of RAM, I
believe an i7.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback! My BBB instance is now running, and
for now everyone who wants can register as a user. Feel free to test it
and also to use it:

https://bigbluebutton.modspil.dk/b

If bandwidth starts becoming an issue at some point, I might close off
new registrations and make it invitation only, we'll see.


Best
Carsten



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Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-01 Thread Paul Boddie
On Thursday 30. April 2020 20.39.01 Carsten Agger wrote:
> I'm thinking og buying a low-power-consumption but powerful computer to
> set up as a video conferencing/communication server at home as a
> contribution to a very apparent need and as an alternative to FaceTime,
> Zoom and whatever.

I would be interested to know what hardware choice you make, in fact.

(I have been looking at low-power desktop solutions, but I am now starting to 
think that various embedded/industrial computers that might have been viable 
once upon a time are now likely to struggle with the bloated Web experience 
and GPU-heavy desktop effects bonanza imposed on us today.)

> Do people have experience with this? I've tried having a Jitsi Meet
> instance once and found it difficult to tweak for really good performance.
> 
> I'm tempted to go with BigBlueButton - it seems to have everything and
> promises to be easy to install.
> 
> Do anyone have experience running these things for practical use?

I don't have any such experience, but I did just encounter the following 
document of potential interest:

https://nlnet.nl/news/2020/20200330-WorkRemoteSafely.html

This is obviously pertinent to the FSFE Wiki page about remote working, too.

Paul
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Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-01 Thread Samuel Lelièvre
Fri 2020-05-01 10:37 UTC, Thomas Doczkal:
>
> Hi Carsten,
>
> One downside of BBB I see is that they require Ubuntu in a specific LTS
> version (currently 16.04). If you use something else you might not get
> support.

For reference, the BBB issue for upgrading to Ubuntu 18.04 is:
https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton/issues/8474
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Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-01 Thread Thomas Doczkal
On 5/1/20 10:10 AM, Carsten Agger wrote:
> Hi Irmhild
> 
> Thanks a lot! I think I'll go with BBB then. :-)
> 
> Best,
> Carsten
> 

Hi Carsten,

we have set up our own instance of BBB which was quite easy to setup
initially and started with UI tweaking.

One downside of BBB I see is that they require Ubuntu in a specific LTS
version (currently 16.04). If you use something else you might not get
support.

Best Regards,
Thomas



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Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-01 Thread Carsten Agger
Hi Irmhild

Thanks a lot! I think I'll go with BBB then. :-)

Best,
Carsten

On 2020-05-01 09:14, Irmhild Rogalla wrote:
> Am 30.04.20 um 20:39 schrieb Carsten Agger:
>> I'm thinking og buying a low-power-consumption...
>>
>> I'm tempted to go with BigBlueButton - it seems to have everything and
>> promises to be easy to install.
>>
>> Do anyone have experience running these things for practical use?
>>
> I don't have experience in *running* BBB, but in using and I'm very
> happy with this tool! I know  lot of video-conferencing systems and
> have special requirements, because I'm deaf and for every
> communication I need to see my sign language interpreters. BBB is the
> only systems/software I found (and I know a lot with more than five
> years of experience), with runs very stable, have low power
> consumption on user side, runs in Browser (without app), fulfill
> security and privacy requirements (including being open source) and is
> easy to use.
>
> best regards
>
>     Irmhild 
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Re: Best video conferencing/distance learning tools?

2020-05-01 Thread Irmhild Rogalla

Am 30.04.20 um 20:39 schrieb Carsten Agger:

I'm thinking og buying a low-power-consumption...

I'm tempted to go with BigBlueButton - it seems to have everything and
promises to be easy to install.

Do anyone have experience running these things for practical use?

I don't have experience in *running* BBB, but in using and I'm very 
happy with this tool! I know  lot of video-conferencing systems and have 
special requirements, because I'm deaf and for every communication I 
need to see my sign language interpreters. BBB is the only 
systems/software I found (and I know a lot with more than five years of 
experience), with runs very stable, have low power consumption on user 
side, runs in Browser (without app), fulfill security and privacy 
requirements (including being open source) and is easy to use.


best regards

    Irmhild

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