Mila site
Hi, I don't know how many of you remember the great promise that was Mila. They took hspell dictionary and promised fully GPLed lexicon and fully GPLed analyzer. Now everything disappeared from their site, they claim full copyright over the lexicon and nothing is being released. I think getting the lexicon code at least can be an interesting test case for hamakor. Beside the obvious breaking of GPL for a few years, there is more the ethical part. The project was funded by the ministry of science, and was advertised on papers as free. Anyone got an idea what can we do about it? Ely ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Mila site
Hi Ely, It took me a while to find the website you're referring to: http://www.mila.cs.technion.ac.il/ From a quick browse it seems that most (if not all) of the programs are GPLed, but aren't available for download without a registration. This seems quite legitimate. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't know how many of you remember the great promise that was Mila. They took hspell dictionary and promised fully GPLed lexicon and fully GPLed analyzer. Now everything disappeared from their site, they claim full copyright over the lexicon and nothing is being released. I think getting the lexicon code at least can be an interesting test case for hamakor. Beside the obvious breaking of GPL for a few years, there is more the ethical part. The project was funded by the ministry of science, and was advertised on papers as free. Anyone got an idea what can we do about it? Ely ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Mila site
I didn't find any options to register except for the Corpora. Did you try to mail them at m...@cs.technion.ac.il ? On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: Where is there a link to download the lexicon with registeration? I was looking all over for one. And how does one register? It's only legit if everyone can easily register. Ely On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ely, It took me a while to find the website you're referring to: http://www.mila.cs.technion.ac.il/ From a quick browse it seems that most (if not all) of the programs are GPLed, but aren't available for download without a registration. This seems quite legitimate. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't know how many of you remember the great promise that was Mila. They took hspell dictionary and promised fully GPLed lexicon and fully GPLed analyzer. Now everything disappeared from their site, they claim full copyright over the lexicon and nothing is being released. I think getting the lexicon code at least can be an interesting test case for hamakor. Beside the obvious breaking of GPL for a few years, there is more the ethical part. The project was funded by the ministry of science, and was advertised on papers as free. Anyone got an idea what can we do about it? Ely ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Mila site
I tried a while ago but wasn't so successful. I think also Dotan tried and didn't get too much out of them. It's not that they don't answer they just politely decline. Ely On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't find any options to register except for the Corpora. Did you try to mail them at m...@cs.technion.ac.il ? On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: Where is there a link to download the lexicon with registeration? I was looking all over for one. And how does one register? It's only legit if everyone can easily register. Ely On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ely, It took me a while to find the website you're referring to: http://www.mila.cs.technion.ac.il/ From a quick browse it seems that most (if not all) of the programs are GPLed, but aren't available for download without a registration. This seems quite legitimate. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't know how many of you remember the great promise that was Mila. They took hspell dictionary and promised fully GPLed lexicon and fully GPLed analyzer. Now everything disappeared from their site, they claim full copyright over the lexicon and nothing is being released. I think getting the lexicon code at least can be an interesting test case for hamakor. Beside the obvious breaking of GPL for a few years, there is more the ethical part. The project was funded by the ministry of science, and was advertised on papers as free. Anyone got an idea what can we do about it? Ely ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Mila site
Well, that's a problem. We can't force them into giving us the product (binary or code), and unless we know what exactly do they distribute we can't verify if the uphold the GPL. Any better ideas ? On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:17 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a while ago but wasn't so successful. I think also Dotan tried and didn't get too much out of them. It's not that they don't answer they just politely decline. Ely On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't find any options to register except for the Corpora. Did you try to mail them at m...@cs.technion.ac.il ? On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: Where is there a link to download the lexicon with registeration? I was looking all over for one. And how does one register? It's only legit if everyone can easily register. Ely On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ely, It took me a while to find the website you're referring to: http://www.mila.cs.technion.ac.il/ From a quick browse it seems that most (if not all) of the programs are GPLed, but aren't available for download without a registration. This seems quite legitimate. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't know how many of you remember the great promise that was Mila. They took hspell dictionary and promised fully GPLed lexicon and fully GPLed analyzer. Now everything disappeared from their site, they claim full copyright over the lexicon and nothing is being released. I think getting the lexicon code at least can be an interesting test case for hamakor. Beside the obvious breaking of GPL for a few years, there is more the ethical part. The project was funded by the ministry of science, and was advertised on papers as free. Anyone got an idea what can we do about it? Ely ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Mila site
E L wrote: Where is there a link to download the lexicon with registeration? I was looking all over for one. And how does one register? It's only legit if everyone can easily register. From a purely GPL perspective, that is not true. It is perfectly okay for me to create a GPL program, and only give it to people who give me money, so long as those people receive the program under the terms of the GPL. Did you find out how much is a license? If it's truly under the GPL, Hamakor can buy one copy and make it public. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Mila site
i tried to send the mail too but was declined, so i checked the automated mail i got, and it said the following I will be out of office between 1/11/2007-18/11/2007. Your mail concerning =?UTF-8?Q?=D7=A9=D7=99=D7=9E=D7=95=D7=A9?= will be read when I'm back. pay attention to the date writen there, its about 3 years ago... thus i beleive its outdated and at least possibly done with no bad intentions, if there is some one that can try to contact Dalia Bojen directly in the technion to see whats going on it will be perfect. by the way, the same doctor Dalia Bojen that developed some of the programs in the site doesn't work there any more. On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 22:21 +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote: Well, that's a problem. We can't force them into giving us the product (binary or code), and unless we know what exactly do they distribute we can't verify if the uphold the GPL. Any better ideas ? On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:17 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a while ago but wasn't so successful. I think also Dotan tried and didn't get too much out of them. It's not that they don't answer they just politely decline. Ely On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't find any options to register except for the Corpora. Did you try to mail them at m...@cs.technion.ac.il ? On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: Where is there a link to download the lexicon with registeration? I was looking all over for one. And how does one register? It's only legit if everyone can easily register. Ely On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ely, It took me a while to find the website you're referring to: http://www.mila.cs.technion.ac.il/ From a quick browse it seems that most (if not all) of the programs are GPLed, but aren't available for download without a registration. This seems quite legitimate. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM, E L nak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't know how many of you remember the great promise that was Mila. They took hspell dictionary and promised fully GPLed lexicon and fully GPLed analyzer. Now everything disappeared from their site, they claim full copyright over the lexicon and nothing is being released. I think getting the lexicon code at least can be an interesting test case for hamakor. Beside the obvious breaking of GPL for a few years, there is more the ethical part. The project was funded by the ministry of science, and was advertised on papers as free. Anyone got an idea what can we do about it? Ely ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
