Re: Temporary Location for the List of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists
שלומי, כולם,
למעשה, כבר כעת אלו הן ההגדרות של האתר, וקובץ ה- .htaccess אכן נמצא במקומו.
העובדה שהקישורים הם בפורמט של 17/16/ וכן הלאה, במקום עם סימני שאלה
וקריאה למודולים הרלבנטים, היא המעידה על כך.
התשובה שניתנה היא ההליך הבסיסי שהעברתי את האתר כבר מההתחלה.
שבוע טוב!
דותן
Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Just for the record, here is a conversation from #joomla regarding this:
>
> {
> Hi all.
> Can I change the Joomla URL of
> http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/ to something
> more meaningful like http:///mailing-lists/ ?
>rindolf yes
>in settings
>turn SEO on and mod_rewrite on
> winwinwin: mod_rewrite?
> hii
> winwinwin: the Apache mod_rewrite?
>rindolf yes
>rindolf turn it on
> winwinwin: hmmppf
>by mv htaccess.txt to .htacces
> winwinwin: and shouldn't I add directives to the .htaccess
> file.
> winwinwin: oh.
> winwinwin: htaccess.txt in the Joomla distribution.
> winwinwin: will Joomla know to do the right thing.
> ?
>rindolf turn them on in the setting panel
> winwinwin: turn what?
>three radio inputs actually
>go to admin and global settings
>just turn the first two on
>are you using RC3?
> winwinwin: I don't know what we're using.
>ok
>try it
>it would work fine
> }
>
> Regards,
>
> Shlomi Fish
>
> On Saturday 20 October 2007, Dotan Mazor wrote:
>
>> שלומי, כולם, שלום,
>>
>>
>> למיטב ידיעתי, אין אפשרות לשנות את כתובת ה- url לכתובת הקשורה לכותרת
>> המאמר. יש מערכות אחרות שאכן תומכות בכך, אך בדרך כלל מדובר במערכות של
>> בלוגים כמו Wordpress, וזו לא הפלטפורמה שעליה החלטנו, ממגוון של סיבות
>> שממש לא מעניינות כרגע.
>>
>>
>> הסיבה שאני שולח את זה כתשובה ציבורית ולא תשובה פרטית, היא פשוט כי אני
>> מעריך שהתשובה לגבי כתובת ה- url יכולה לעניין אנשים.
>>
>>
>> שבוע טוב!
>>
>> דותן מזור
>>
>> Shlomi Fish wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, is it possible to assign more meaningful URLs to the pages in the
>>> hamakor.org.il's Joomla than
>>> http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/, which is pretty
>>> meaningless. Something like
>>> http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/mailing-lists/ or whatever.
>>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Temporary Location for the List of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists
Hi!
Just for the record, here is a conversation from #joomla regarding this:
{
Hi all.
Can I change the Joomla URL of
http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/ to something
more meaningful like http:///mailing-lists/ ?
rindolf yes
in settings
turn SEO on and mod_rewrite on
winwinwin: mod_rewrite?
hii
winwinwin: the Apache mod_rewrite?
rindolf yes
rindolf turn it on
winwinwin: hmmppf
by mv htaccess.txt to .htacces
winwinwin: and shouldn't I add directives to the .htaccess
file.
winwinwin: oh.
winwinwin: htaccess.txt in the Joomla distribution.
winwinwin: will Joomla know to do the right thing.
?
rindolf turn them on in the setting panel
winwinwin: turn what?
three radio inputs actually
go to admin and global settings
just turn the first two on
are you using RC3?
winwinwin: I don't know what we're using.
ok
try it
it would work fine
}
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
On Saturday 20 October 2007, Dotan Mazor wrote:
> שלומי, כולם, שלום,
>
>
> למיטב ידיעתי, אין אפשרות לשנות את כתובת ה- url לכתובת הקשורה לכותרת
> המאמר. יש מערכות אחרות שאכן תומכות בכך, אך בדרך כלל מדובר במערכות של
> בלוגים כמו Wordpress, וזו לא הפלטפורמה שעליה החלטנו, ממגוון של סיבות
> שממש לא מעניינות כרגע.
>
>
> הסיבה שאני שולח את זה כתשובה ציבורית ולא תשובה פרטית, היא פשוט כי אני
> מעריך שהתשובה לגבי כתובת ה- url יכולה לעניין אנשים.
>
>
> שבוע טוב!
>
> דותן מזור
>
> Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > BTW, is it possible to assign more meaningful URLs to the pages in the
> > hamakor.org.il's Joomla than
> > http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/, which is pretty
> > meaningless. Something like
> > http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/mailing-lists/ or whatever.
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Re: Temporary Location for the List of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists
On Saturday 20 October 2007, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Well, first of all I should note that the choice was whether to update > > the list on www.hamakor.org.il, or restore the IGLU list, and update it > > somewhat. Restoring the IGLU list was much less work for me. > > > > The problems I see in the www.hamakor.org.il page are: > > > > 1. Is in Hebrew. There are mailing lists whose main language is English, > > and it is possible that English speakers woudl like to subscribe them or > > otherwise learn about them. > > > > 2. Contain only a small subset of the information the original list > > contained. > > > > 3. Contains only a small part of the lists that are contained there. (And > > apparently only those in the domains of hamakor.org.il). > > Well, why don't you fix those problems, then? I'm sure no one will > complain if you put up an English page as well. > Fixing these problems in the new page will be much more effort than restoring the original page, and with less gain. > > Plus, is there a way to add a mailing list by using meta-data, and let > > the page generate it or do I need to edit the HTML by hand? I generate > > the pages using meta-data and some Perl code. > > Shlomi, this is (again) the wrong forum. > Fine. I asked, because this is one thing that I like about my current list-of-mailing-lists system, and am not sure exists in the new one. > > I already have such permissions. (Thanks to Dotan). > > I anxiously expect your contributions. I'll contribute when I have something to contribute. If you have any areas that need help, let me know and I'll try to dedicate some time to help with that. > > > BTW, is it possible to assign more meaningful URLs to the pages in the > > hamakor.org.il's Joomla than > > http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/, which is pretty > > meaningless. > > Last I checked, you also had permissions to edit .htaccess. I still > anxiously expect your contributions. Mod rewrite really is your friend > here. mod_rewrite is a kludge and tends to break more often than not. I'd rather configure such URLs at the Joomla level. > If Joomla has a better way of doing it, well, you have permissions > over that as well. Thanks for giving me the permissions and I'll try to investigate that. > > Bitching about stuff on open mailing lists is NOT the way to solve > problems. Particularly not problems you have permissions to solve. If > you don't like the way things are, make them better. I wasn't bitching. I mentioned some things that disturbed me and explained why I decided to restore the original mailing lists' list at a temporary location instead of the new one. It wasn't done maliciously, but as something I remembered when looking at the page on hamakor.org.il. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ If it's not in my E-mail it doesn't happen. And if my E-mail is saying one thing, and everything else says something else - E-mail will conquer. -- An Israeli Linuxer ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Temporary Location for the List of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists
Dotan Mazor wrote: > > שלומי, כולם, שלום, > > > למיטב ידיעתי, אין אפשרות לשנות את כתובת ה- url לכתובת הקשורה לכותרת > המאמר. יש מערכות אחרות שאכן תומכות בכך, אך בדרך כלל מדובר במערכות של > בלוגים כמו Wordpress, וזו לא הפלטפורמה שעליה החלטנו, ממגוון של סיבות > שממש לא מעניינות כרגע. > > > הסיבה שאני שולח את זה כתשובה ציבורית ולא תשובה פרטית, היא פשוט כי אני > מעריך שהתשובה לגבי כתובת ה- url יכולה לעניין אנשים. > > > שבוע טוב! > > דותן מזור > mod_rewrite מאפשר לך להקליד כתובת אחת, אבל בפועל לקבל כתובת אחרת. לא צריך בהכרח תמיכה של מערכת ניהול התוכן. שחר ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Temporary Location for the List of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists
שלומי, כולם, שלום, למיטב ידיעתי, אין אפשרות לשנות את כתובת ה- url לכתובת הקשורה לכותרת המאמר. יש מערכות אחרות שאכן תומכות בכך, אך בדרך כלל מדובר במערכות של בלוגים כמו Wordpress, וזו לא הפלטפורמה שעליה החלטנו, ממגוון של סיבות שממש לא מעניינות כרגע. הסיבה שאני שולח את זה כתשובה ציבורית ולא תשובה פרטית, היא פשוט כי אני מעריך שהתשובה לגבי כתובת ה- url יכולה לעניין אנשים. שבוע טוב! דותן מזור Shlomi Fish wrote: > BTW, is it possible to assign more meaningful URLs to the pages in the > hamakor.org.il's Joomla than http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/, > which is pretty meaningless. Something like > http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/mailing-lists/ or whatever. > -- Dotan Mazor http://www.dotanmazor.com ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Temporary Location for the List of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists
Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Well, first of all I should note that the choice was whether to update the > list on www.hamakor.org.il, or restore the IGLU list, and update it somewhat. > Restoring the IGLU list was much less work for me. > > The problems I see in the www.hamakor.org.il page are: > > 1. Is in Hebrew. There are mailing lists whose main language is English, and > it is possible that English speakers woudl like to subscribe them or > otherwise learn about them. > > 2. Contain only a small subset of the information the original list contained. > > 3. Contains only a small part of the lists that are contained there. (And > apparently only those in the domains of hamakor.org.il). > Well, why don't you fix those problems, then? I'm sure no one will complain if you put up an English page as well. > Plus, is there a way to add a mailing list by using meta-data, and let the > page generate it or do I need to edit the HTML by hand? I generate the pages > using meta-data and some Perl code. > Shlomi, this is (again) the wrong forum. > I already have such permissions. (Thanks to Dotan). > I anxiously expect your contributions. > BTW, is it possible to assign more meaningful URLs to the pages in the > hamakor.org.il's Joomla than http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/, > which is pretty meaningless. Last I checked, you also had permissions to edit .htaccess. I still anxiously expect your contributions. Mod rewrite really is your friend here. If Joomla has a better way of doing it, well, you have permissions over that as well. Bitching about stuff on open mailing lists is NOT the way to solve problems. Particularly not problems you have permissions to solve. If you don't like the way things are, make them better. Shachar ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Temporary Location for the List of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists
On Saturday 20 October 2007, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > I set up the list of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists that used to > > reside in http://www.iglu.org.il/mailing-lists/ at a temporary location > > here: > > > > http://www.shlomifish.org/Iglu/mailing-lists/ > > > > You can now use it as a reference for the mailing list related > > information. > > > > If you can find any out-of-date information there, please let me know so > > I can correct it. > > Any particular reason not to just update the list on hamakor servers at > http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/? Well, first of all I should note that the choice was whether to update the list on www.hamakor.org.il, or restore the IGLU list, and update it somewhat. Restoring the IGLU list was much less work for me. The problems I see in the www.hamakor.org.il page are: 1. Is in Hebrew. There are mailing lists whose main language is English, and it is possible that English speakers woudl like to subscribe them or otherwise learn about them. 2. Contain only a small subset of the information the original list contained. 3. Contains only a small part of the lists that are contained there. (And apparently only those in the domains of hamakor.org.il). Plus, is there a way to add a mailing list by using meta-data, and let the page generate it or do I need to edit the HTML by hand? I generate the pages using meta-data and some Perl code. > I'm sure Dotan will love > to give you a password for updating the site if you ask nicely. > I already have such permissions. (Thanks to Dotan). BTW, is it possible to assign more meaningful URLs to the pages in the hamakor.org.il's Joomla than http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/, which is pretty meaningless. Something like http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/mailing-lists/ or whatever. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ If it's not in my E-mail it doesn't happen. And if my E-mail is saying one thing, and everything else says something else - E-mail will conquer. -- An Israeli Linuxer ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
Re: Temporary Location for the List of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists
Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi all! > > I set up the list of Israeli Linux-related mailing lists that used to reside > in http://www.iglu.org.il/mailing-lists/ at a temporary location here: > > http://www.shlomifish.org/Iglu/mailing-lists/ > > You can now use it as a reference for the mailing list related information. > > If you can find any out-of-date information there, please let me know so I > can > correct it. > Any particular reason not to just update the list on hamakor servers at http://www.hamakor.org.il/content/view/17/26/? I'm sure Dotan will love to give you a password for updating the site if you ask nicely. Shachar ___ Discussions mailing list Discussions@hamakor.org.il http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
