[Distutils] [issue129] Installation problem with pyx on windows

2011-05-12 Thread Björn Lindqvist

New submission from Björn Lindqvist bjou...@gmail.com:

H:\easy_install pyx
Searching for pyx
Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/pyx/
Reading http://pyx.sourceforge.net/
Reading http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=45430
Best match: PyX 0.10
Downloading 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyx/files/pyx/0.10/PyX-0.10.tar.gz/download
Processing PyX-0.10.tar.gz
Running PyX-0.10\setup.py -q bdist_egg --dist-dir 
c:\users\bjolin\appdata\local\temp\easy_install-jaiul5\PyX-0.10\egg-dist-tmp-4kffgf
error: Setup script exited with error: SandboxViolation: 
mkdir('C:\\Python27\\share\\pyx', 511) {}

The package setup script has attempted to modify files on your system
that are not within the EasyInstall build area, and has been aborted.

This package cannot be safely installed by EasyInstall, and may not
support alternate installation locations even if you run its setup
script by hand.  Please inform the package's author and the EasyInstall
maintainers to find out if a fix or workaround is available.

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title: Installation problem with pyx on windows

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[Distutils] Option --show-response not working properly when uploading to PyPI

2011-05-12 Thread Roy Hyunjin Han
Hi,

When I try to upload a package to PyPI using the --show-response
option, I get the following result.

python setup.py sdist upload --show-response

Python 2.7 (r27:82500, Sep 16 2010, 18:03:06)
[GCC 4.5.1 20100907 (Red Hat 4.5.1-3)] on linux2

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File setup.py, line 31, in module
zip_safe=True)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/core.py, line 152, in setup
dist.run_commands()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py, line 953, in run_commands
self.run_command(cmd)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py, line 972, in run_command
cmd_obj.run()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/command/upload.py, line 60, in run
self.upload_file(command, pyversion, filename)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/command/upload.py, line 189, in
upload_file
self.announce('-'*75, result.read(), '-'*75)
TypeError: announce() takes at most 3 arguments (4 given)

Please CC me if you are responding to this message.

Thanks,
RHH
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Re: [Distutils] Buildout status

2011-05-12 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
 ...
 Not sure to folllow.  You want to port Setuptools into py3k... again ?
  If so, this was done already in Distribute, and you can join the
 project.

 I don't really want to join a project. I already have a number of
 projects.

But the work is not going to happen only into the zc.buildout tree, right ?


 Or you want to copy our work from Distribute back into Setuptools  ?
 I would not mind of course, merging back the 2 projects would be
 awesome -- but I have no hopes on this.

 It's possible that I could reuse that work.  I'd rather port to 23
 rather than 3.  That is, I'd rather not rely on 2to3 at deployment
 time. I find installing distribute in Python 3 to be really annoying
 due to the spew from 2to3. I also find the 2to3 development model
 really unattractive.


The major benefit is that you don't have to maintain separate branches
for py3. Another thing is that you often don't have to deal with 2to3
internals, as you just adapt your code to be 2to3 friendly

I agree that extending 2to3 is tough, but that almost never occur. If
it occurs, you just need to ask Lennart ;)

And the benefits are larger than going manually. We tried !  I don't
see the extra spew at install time as a problem.


 Although, my suggestion would be to start digging into the
 Distutils2/packaging project instead, since that will be in the
 standard library, and backported in 2.x.

 When it's mature, I'll use it.

Some of the code you need is usable today.

examples:

- easy_install's package index can be replaced by the index tool we have.
- browsing installed packages (the new PEP 376 and the old
setuptools/distutils standards)
- ...

There are a few corner cases we don't deal with. For instance, we get
things installed as non-zipped egg. I think that would be a good
default for buildout2.

But yeah, the code is not mature I guess, but it's driven by known
use cases for you, not new features we'll ask people to try out. And
it's going to be published in Python 3.3 in +1 year. Not sure what
your roadmap looks like but if buildout2 is a rewrite, by the time its
mature itself, 3.3 will be out imho


 I believe it provides all the features buildout needs. And if not we
 should add them

 Buildout needs entry points.

Entry points are just a feature on the top of browsable metadata of
installed packages. The browsable part is already provided by d2. The
installation of custom metadata is going to be
done this summer during the GSOC, Basically, a CUSTOM file in the
metadata directory. With a backward compat layer to install entry
point as custom metadata.

In a new Python3.3/packaging based projects, people will be able to
add in their setup.cfg file:

  [metadata]
  X-Entry-Points =
  group:name = here.it.is

And this will be copied in project.dist-info/CUSTOM

In fact  the plan is to *publish* setup.cfg to PyPI so tools will be
able to read it without downloading anything !

For you, it means that you could use a single API to browse metadata
for every installed project, whether they are setuptools-based or
distutils2-based.


Regardless, I fully expect to use
 Packaging when it's ready, but I'm stuck with setuptools/distribute
 now. I so wish that fork hadn't been done.

I so wished that we could have all worked together in the first
place... On my side, the plan was to extend Distribute but that did
not happen there, as we discussed the options in the Language
Summit(s)
and imo that was a good decision. Now I am looking forward to the new tools.

But the reality is that some projects can run under Python 3 thanks to
Distribute. It's now used in most major Linux distributions, and you
saying I will not support anything else that setuptools in buildout2
does not sound right to me. By taking the road you've mentioned, it
seems to me that it's going to be more work and trouble that you
expect because:

- you are going to re-do all the py3 porting we already did, and that
needs backward compatibility w/ distribute,  because some people use
it for the extra python3 features we added
- you are going to maintain several branches if you don't use 2to3
- what's going to happen when distutils2-based packages will be
published ? are you going to add backward compat in setuptools, so
redo what we did in d2 in reverse ? (this is planned in Distribute, so
doubled-work again)

A simple direction in my opinion would be:

- make sure all stuff done on setuptools lately that were neglected on
distribute side get merged back - so we really have 100% identical
behavior that works under py3
  that's *way* less work.
- use when possible, pieces of distutils2 in buildout2, since we
target backward compat for all our APIs.

Because as far as I know, the Setuptools project is just doing
bugfixing. I don't think there are yet new 

Re: [Distutils] Buildout status

2011-05-12 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
 ...
 Not sure to folllow.  You want to port Setuptools into py3k... again ?
  If so, this was done already in Distribute, and you can join the
 project.

 I don't really want to join a project. I already have a number of
 projects.

 But the work is not going to happen only into the zc.buildout tree,
 right ?

No. If I do this, I'd work with Phillip Eby.

If you tell me that distribute is being actively maintained, I'll use
distribute. What I've heard in the past is that distribute wasn't
being worked on. I'd interpreted this to mean that it wasn't being
maintained. Perhaps I misinterpreted. Again, if you assure me that it
is being maintained, I'll use it instead.

...

 Although, my suggestion would be to start digging into the
 Distutils2/packaging project instead, since that will be in the
 standard library, and backported in 2.x.

 When it's mature, I'll use it.

 Some of the code you need is usable today.

Some isn't good enough. There's another issue that I'll mention below.


 examples:

 - easy_install's package index can be replaced by the index tool we have.
 - browsing installed packages (the new PEP 376 and the old
 setuptools/distutils standards)
 - ...

 There are a few corner cases we don't deal with. For instance, we get
 things installed as non-zipped egg. I think that would be a good
 default for buildout2.

 But yeah, the code is not mature I guess, but it's driven by known
 use cases for you, not new features we'll ask people to try out. And
 it's going to be published in Python 3.3 in +1 year. Not sure what
 your roadmap looks like but if buildout2 is a rewrite, by the time its
 mature itself, 3.3 will be out imho

Buildout needs setuptools/distribute in 2 ways:

1. Buildout uses it to download and install packages

2. Buildout makes it available in the path when installing source
   distributions that import setuptools.  It's going to be a *long*
   time before this need goes away.

For a while, I was thinking of forking distribute to address #1, but
that wouldn't address #2, which is just as importasnt.

...

Regardless, I fully expect to use
 Packaging when it's ready, but I'm stuck with setuptools/distribute
 now. I so wish that fork hadn't been done.

 I so wished that we could have all worked together in the first
 place...

What?  I don't understand.  You make it sound as if I refused to work
with you.  If you are suggesting that I failed to contribute to
distribute or distutils2, you'll have to excuse me for choosing to
work on other projects. Buildout is just a consumer of setuptools (and
packaging in the future).

...

 But the reality is that some projects can run under Python 3 thanks to
 Distribute.

True, including buildout.

 It's now used in most major Linux distributions, and you
 saying I will not support anything else that setuptools in buildout2
 does not sound right to me. By taking the road you've mentioned, it
 seems to me that it's going to be more work and trouble that you
 expect because:

 - you are going to re-do all the py3 porting we already did, and that
 needs backward compatibility w/ distribute,  because some people use
 it for the extra python3 features we added
 - you are going to maintain several branches if you don't use 2to3
 - what's going to happen when distutils2-based packages will be
 published ? are you going to add backward compat in setuptools, so
 redo what we did in d2 in reverse ? (this is planned in Distribute, so
 doubled-work again)

What I said was that I wasn't going to support both. Again, if you
assure me that distribute is being maintained, then I'll avoid the
work of porting setuptools to Python 3 and just use distribute.  OTOH,
if you tell me I have to wait for packaging to be widely adopted,
well, that's just not going to cut it.

 A simple direction in my opinion would be:

 - make sure all stuff done on setuptools lately that were neglected on
 distribute side get merged back - so we really have 100% identical
 behavior that works under py3

I soo f%$#ing hate the fork.

  that's *way* less work.

shrug

 - use when possible, pieces of distutils2 in buildout2, since we
 target backward compat for all our APIs.

 Because as far as I know, the Setuptools project is just doing
 bugfixing. I don't think there are yet new features in it. I consider
 that all setuptools-related technologies are now superseded by the new
 stuff we do in packaging (that greatly inherit from them)

From talking to Phillip, I think he intends to update setuptools to
reflect new peps.  Personally, I'd be happy to see it (and distribute)
just fix bugs and remain stable.

I'm totally on board with the move to packaging, but until all of the
packages that buildout needs to 

Re: [Distutils] Buildout status

2011-05-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 12, 2011, at 09:28 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:

If you tell me that distribute is being actively maintained, I'll use
distribute. What I've heard in the past is that distribute wasn't
being worked on. I'd interpreted this to mean that it wasn't being
maintained. Perhaps I misinterpreted. Again, if you assure me that it
is being maintained, I'll use it instead.

FWIW, if buildout 2 only supports setuptools, it'll be much less interesting
to me.  Debian and Ubuntu use distribute by default, as does all of my own
personal projects.

Cheers,
-Barry


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Re: [Distutils] Buildout status

2011-05-12 Thread Adam GROSZER

Hello,

On 05/12/2011 03:28 PM, Jim Fulton wrote:

If you tell me that distribute is being actively maintained, I'll use
distribute. What I've heard in the past is that distribute wasn't
being worked on. I'd interpreted this to mean that it wasn't being
maintained. Perhaps I misinterpreted. Again, if you assure me that it
is being maintained, I'll use it instead.


I fixed a bug some weeks ago.
https://bitbucket.org/tarek/distribute/issue/200/win-amd64exe-cannot-be-installed
I sort of dropped the lead to PJE too.
The result is that distribute had the release in about a week, 
setuptools is nowhere.


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[Distutils] third party program or python error

2011-05-12 Thread mikroman
This request may be beyond the scope of your help. I am trying to solve an 
issue that involves tix84.dll, a side-by-side error, .mp4 extension, and a 
wininst.exe that occurs from within Corel’s Paint Shop Photo Pro x3. An unusual 
request that may not involve Python at all, but, rather “some else’s 
programming.” – of course. I have scanned through Python’s FAQ’s and bug 
checker - as a side note I must say that I deeply respect the way this website 
is organized – truly brilliant and a lot of webmasters could learn from this 
layout. I can say that I am not a programmer. At least not advanced enough to 
be commercially successful. I would consider myself to be a competent bug 
checker yet I am stumped. I have included here a lot of information pertaining 
to this error. Would it be appropriate to send you error logs that might help?
Python was included in Corel’s Paint Shop Photo Pro x3 version that I 
installed. Strangely the tix84.dll is not present in the Python dll library 
directory that is installed by PSP. I did locate that file from a known source 
and place it there which allows a certain PSP installation package to operate 
(which I believe is not supposed to occur in the first place); that would be 
wininst-8_d.exe which is present in the proper directory – yet Windows error 
log reports that it can’t find it. This installer wouldn’t continue without 
that dll. Now that it was able to continue and finish this peculiar 
installation, any attempt to start the program halts with 
“DetectLanguage()error. Exiting.”  The program did function normally in every 
way it was supposed to previous to this odd installation. The strangest thing 
is that this installer was only initiated when I would attempt to open an .mp4 
file in any fashion whether PSP was running or not. Until recently I would 
normally cancel the install operation and if I was running the application PSP 
would continue as usual. I ignored it. This was the first program I had 
installed after completely installing and updating a clean Windows 7 64bit on a 
new machine. The PSP program itself was further updated four times. This 
problem occurred before and after that procedure. Everything else that has been 
installed, 32 or 64 bit, has performed perfectly...well as perfect as humans 
can get.
I have viewed the Corel message board and found several occurrences of this 
problem with no solutions provided. I will also post this to comp.lang.python 
seeking help.
I would like to thank you now for taking your time to read this and I hope 
you can lead me in the right direction.

Mike Loewen
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Re: [Distutils] Buildout status

2011-05-12 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
 ...
 Not sure to folllow.  You want to port Setuptools into py3k... again ?
  If so, this was done already in Distribute, and you can join the
 project.

 I don't really want to join a project. I already have a number of
 projects.

 But the work is not going to happen only into the zc.buildout tree,
 right ?

 No. If I do this, I'd work with Phillip Eby.

 If you tell me that distribute is being actively maintained, I'll use
 distribute. What I've heard in the past is that distribute wasn't
 being worked on. I'd interpreted this to mean that it wasn't being
 maintained. Perhaps I misinterpreted. Again, if you assure me that it
 is being maintained, I'll use it instead.

I can't spend anymore the time on it regularly unfortunately, I have
to make choice about my free time and I chose to work in the stdlib
upcoming package.

But I can assure the following (that what happened lately) :

1- anyone that wish to contribute a patch can do it, I give commiter
writes for this
2- we are now several people that can push a release at PyPI. I can
add more people if I know them
3- When I do releases, I do post-review of patches
4- Some other folks have enough knowledge now to do 3.

There are a few patches pending that should be commited, and I am not
following Setuptools activity as I used too by a lack of time,
so there are probably a few commits to backport.

I think that's less of a day of work altogether as far as I can see.
I can spent this time real soon and do a release so we're up to date,
but you or someone else would need to help in the future.

I don't know if this is a superior approach to PJE's approach on
maintenanceship, but it means that any big issue that would happen in
the code will not be locked by a single person.

For instance OS packagers have an access to it, and can work out
problems they had downstream. I don't think we're anymore on the no
one can understand the code base line.


...


 I so wished that we could have all worked together in the first
 place...

 What?  I don't understand.  You make it sound as if I refused to work
 with you.  If you are suggesting that I failed to contribute to
 distribute or distutils2, you'll have to excuse me for choosing to
 work on other projects. Buildout is just a consumer of setuptools (and
 packaging in the future).

Sorry for the confusion, I was not pointing any finger at you.  we
referred to all parties involved for packaging tools, setuptools,
distutils, distribute.

I was just indirectly saying that I also wished we did not forked and
be able to get along. But  I am still glad we did since we offered
setuptools for py3.

...
 - what's going to happen when distutils2-based packages will be
 published ? are you going to add backward compat in setuptools, so
 redo what we did in d2 in reverse ? (this is planned in Distribute, so
 doubled-work again)

 What I said was that I wasn't going to support both.

But if a project supports only distutils2 in the future, you cannot
force it to use setuptools' metadata.

Yet, it will express dependencies you need to deal with. (PEP 345)

...

 From talking to Phillip, I think he intends to update setuptools to
 reflect new peps.  Personally, I'd be happy to see it (and distribute)
 just fix bugs and remain stable.

I agree for bug fixing.

In the meantime I also partially agree w/ PJE:  package_resources
should be able to see packages installed by distutils2,
o/w that's not going to work well



 I'm totally on board with the move to packaging, but until all of the
 packages that buildout needs to install switch away from setuptools, I
 have to be able to provide setuptools support.

So do we. Packaging supports the installation of setuptools-based
projects, and also reading metadata from project installed by it.

...

 IOW, unfork. I would *love* *LOVE* to see that happen.

Me too, as long as we have more than one person on board  :)



 - start to use in it, when possible, pieces of distutils2, so
 Distribute/Setuptools become PEP 345/PEP 376 aware

 shrug sure. That's reasonable. First, buildout has to get under
 control. That's my problem (and the problem of people graciously
 helping me).


 - stop adding features so distutils2/packaging slowly takes over

 Absolutely.  I couldn't agree more.  Just understand that we're going
 to have to support old packages that import setuptools in their setup
 scripts indefinitely.  That's one of the biggest challenges I see.
 Maybe packaging can (does?) provide a shim for this.

As I said earlier, we do have backward compat in everything we do with
packages. That leads to ugly code in some places, but we have to.

But as you 

Re: [Distutils] Buildout status

2011-05-12 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 - stop adding features so distutils2/packaging slowly takes over

 Absolutely.  I couldn't agree more.  Just understand that we're going
 to have to support old packages that import setuptools in their setup
 scripts indefinitely.  That's one of the biggest challenges I see.
 Maybe packaging can (does?) provide a shim for this.

 As I said earlier, we do have backward compat in everything we do with
 packages. That leads to ugly code in some places, but we have to.

 But as you said, there's the maturity problem...

OK, given the discussion, I guess the easiest course for buildout would be
for buildout 2 to support just distribute next (to simplify the code)
and then work
on transitioning to packaging.  Buildout 1 would largely stay as it is with bug
fixes.

Jim

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Re: [Distutils] Buildout status

2011-05-12 Thread Kelsey Hightower
 OK, given the discussion, I guess the easiest course for buildout would be
 for buildout 2 to support just distribute next (to simplify the code)
 and then work
 on transitioning to packaging.  Buildout 1 would largely stay as it is with 
 bug
 fixes.

Tarek, correct me if I am wrong here, but 3rd party tools will need to
rely on distribute(setuptools) as packaging/d2 will never provide a
backwards compatible substitute or API. Packaging/d2 relies on
distribute as an external dependency.

So in this case buildout2 will need to support distribute and later
add support for packaging down the road.

So buildout2 will need packaging/d2 + distribute.
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Re: [Distutils] Buildout status

2011-05-12 Thread P.J. Eby

At 10:29 AM 5/12/2011 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 - stop adding features so distutils2/packaging slowly takes over

 Absolutely.  I couldn't agree more.  Just understand that we're going
 to have to support old packages that import setuptools in their setup
 scripts indefinitely.  That's one of the biggest challenges I see.
 Maybe packaging can (does?) provide a shim for this.

 As I said earlier, we do have backward compat in everything we do with
 packages. That leads to ugly code in some places, but we have to.

 But as you said, there's the maturity problem...

OK, given the discussion, I guess the easiest course for buildout would be
for buildout 2 to support just distribute next (to simplify the code)
and then work
on transitioning to packaging.  Buildout 1 would largely stay as it 
is with bug

fixes.


You should be aware of a few things going forward, with respect to 
compatibility.  While Distribute includes many changes that are not 
in setuptools; the reverse is also true: setuptools includes bug 
fixes that are not currently fixed in Distribute.


One important fix is rather complex, as there was a problem with 
build-time dependency recursion that manifested itself as multiple 
bug reports for multiple packages.  This was fixed in setuptools, but 
the Distribute developers opted not to port the fix when it first 
came out a year or two ago, and AFAIK that has not changed.


So, you should be aware that you may have some non-trivial merge work 
ahead, if you want to include those fixes into Distribute.


In addition, Distribute contains various pieces of anti-setuptools 
code, in the sense that it deliberately attempts to prevent 
setuptools being installed or updated.  I don't know if you care 
about that one way or the other, but you should be aware that it exists.


(And of course, there is 2to3.)

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Re: [Distutils] Buildout status

2011-05-12 Thread Tarek Ziadé
2011/5/12 Kelsey Hightower kelsey.highto...@gmail.com:
 OK, given the discussion, I guess the easiest course for buildout would be
 for buildout 2 to support just distribute next (to simplify the code)
 and then work
 on transitioning to packaging.  Buildout 1 would largely stay as it is with 
 bug
 fixes.

 Tarek, correct me if I am wrong here, but 3rd party tools will need to
 rely on distribute(setuptools) as packaging/d2 will never provide a
 backwards compatible substitute or API. Packaging/d2 relies on
 distribute as an external dependency.

 So in this case buildout2 will need to support distribute and later
 add support for packaging down the road.

 So buildout2 will need packaging/d2 + distribute.

There are three concerns:

1 - tools used by zc.buildout itself to manage packages.
2 - what's imported in setup.py in every project
3 - the project's dependencies

for 1, packaging only can be used in the long term since we provide
backward compat.
for 2, if setuptools is imported there, it's required of course. same for 3.


Now for how packaging installs setuptools-based project, it's dealt at
our level.

IOW, zc.buildout in the long term will only have to deal with the
packaging APIS and not worry about what we do internally.

Practically speaking, What's not clear yet is how we will inform that
we need that extra Distribute dependency.

Last, for 2 and 3, if the project uses some APIs that are supposed to
see all installed packages for example, it'll have to use Distribute
once it has added the PEP forward compat layer
(unless Setuptools also adds it, so both will work)

I hope this is clear :)

Cheers
Tarek



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