Re: [Distutils] Fwd: The fate of Distutils in Python 2.7

2010-03-01 Thread K. Richard Pixley

Tarek Ziadé wrote:

The rest of the work will happen in distutils2 and we will try to
release a version asap for Python 2.x and 3.x (2.4 to 3.2), and the
goal
is to put it back in the stdlib in Python 3.3

Er... 2.4?  Really?

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Re: [Distutils] Fwd: The fate of Distutils in Python 2.7

2010-03-01 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:44 PM, K. Richard Pixley r...@noir.com wrote:
 Tarek Ziadé wrote:

 The rest of the work will happen in distutils2 and we will try to
 release a version asap for Python 2.x and 3.x (2.4 to 3.2), and the
 goal
 is to put it back in the stdlib in Python 3.3

 Er... 2.4?  Really?

You need 2.3 ?  (please say no !... ;) )


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Re: [Distutils] Fwd: The fate of Distutils in Python 2.7

2010-03-01 Thread K. Richard Pixley

Tarek Ziadé wrote:

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:44 PM, K. Richard Pixley r...@noir.com wrote:
  

Tarek Ziadé wrote:


The rest of the work will happen in distutils2 and we will try to
release a version asap for Python 2.x and 3.x (2.4 to 3.2), and the
goal
is to put it back in the stdlib in Python 3.3
  

Er... 2.4?  Really?

You need 2.3 ?  (please say no !... ;) 
I don't need 2.3.  I don't need 2.4 either.  I was actually wondering if 
the 2.4 was a typo.


It's not clear to me that there's much need for new packaging tools in 
older versions.


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Re: [Distutils] Fwd: The fate of Distutils in Python 2.7

2010-03-01 Thread Fred Drake
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:17 PM, K. Richard Pixley r...@noir.com wrote:
 It's not clear to me that there's much need for new packaging tools in older
 versions.

I've certainly found it useful to use distribute under Python 2.4.
There are still a lot of people using Python 2.4.

I think the general rule for packaging tools is that you want one that
supports all the versions of Python you're using.  Given that there
are good reasons to try again, it's reasonable to support 2.4.

Migrating to newer versions can take a significant transition period
for some applications.


  -Fred

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[Distutils] Fwd: The fate of Distutils in Python 2.7

2010-02-26 Thread Tarek Ziadé
FIY (I didn't cross-post to make it easier for following the threads)


-- Forwarded message --
From: Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Subject: The fate of Distutils in Python 2.7
To: Python-Dev python-...@python.org


Hello,

This is a follow-up of the Pycon summit + sprints on packaging.

This is what we have planned to do:

1. refactor distutils in a new standalone version called distutils2
[this is done already and we are actively working in the code]
2. completely revert distutils in Lib/ and Doc/ so the code + doc is
the same than the current 2.6.x branch
3. leave the new sysconfig module, that is used by the Makefile and
the site module

The rest of the work will happen in distutils2 and we will try to
release a version asap for Python 2.x and 3.x (2.4 to 3.2), and the
goal
is to put it back in the stdlib in Python 3.3

Distutils in Python will be feature-frozen and I will only do bug
fixes there.  All feature requests will be redirected to Distutils2.

I think the easiest way to manage this for me and for the feedback of
the community is to add in bugs.python.org a Distutils2 component,
so I can
start to reorganize the issues in there and reassign new issues to
Distutils2 when it applies.

Regards
Tarek

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