[Distutils] easy_install deprecated?

2015-06-18 Thread Thomas Güttler 

Some packages have docs like this:

{{{
Installation
==

easy_install foo

or

pip install foo
}}}

Maybe I am too new in the python packaging world, but
for my eyes calling easy_install looks deprecated.

My goal is to make the python world more friendly for newcomers.

Are there still reason to use easy_install and not pip?

I would like to make the docs more readable and remove
the word or from them. Things should be straight forward
for newcomers and experts know how to help themselves.

What do you think?

For people loving details: this mail checks if there is a general consensus. It 
does not
matter which packages I refer to.

Regards,
  Thomas Güttler



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Re: [Distutils] easy_install deprecated?

2015-06-18 Thread Randy Syring 
Others may have a more informed opinion, but the only reason I know of 
to use easy_install is if you are depending on packages that ship 
compiled eggs for Windows.  pip doesn't install eggs and many Windows 
machines do not have developer tools setup.


If your package doesn't ship C extensions as eggs for Windows (and it 
probably shouldn't, use a wheel instead), just recommending pip is 
better IMO.


*Randy Syring*
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/For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world
and forfeit his soul? (Mark 8:36 ESV)/

On 06/18/2015 09:17 AM, Thomas Güttler wrote:

Some packages have docs like this:

{{{
Installation
==

easy_install foo

or

pip install foo
}}}

Maybe I am too new in the python packaging world, but
for my eyes calling easy_install looks deprecated.

My goal is to make the python world more friendly for newcomers.

Are there still reason to use easy_install and not pip?

I would like to make the docs more readable and remove
the word or from them. Things should be straight forward
for newcomers and experts know how to help themselves.

What do you think?

For people loving details: this mail checks if there is a general 
consensus. It does not

matter which packages I refer to.

Regards,
  Thomas Güttler





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Re: [Distutils] easy_install deprecated?

2015-06-18 Thread Wes Turner 
On Jun 18, 2015 8:17 AM, Thomas Güttler guettl...@thomas-guettler.de
wrote:

 Some packages have docs like this:

 {{{
 Installation
 ==

 easy_install foo

 or

 pip install foo
 }}}

 Maybe I am too new in the python packaging world, but
 for my eyes calling easy_install looks deprecated.

 My goal is to make the python world more friendly for newcomers.

 Are there still reason to use easy_install and not pip?

easy_install does not install
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/backports.ssl_match_hostname ; so, before
Python 2.7.9, easy_install does not check SSL certs correctly:

* https://docs.python.org/2/library/ssl.html
* http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0466

TLDR definitely use pip w/ less than Python 2.7.9.


 I would like to make the docs more readable and remove
 the word or from them. Things should be straight forward
 for newcomers and experts know how to help themselves.

 What do you think?

 For people loving details: this mail checks if there is a general
consensus. It does not
 matter which packages I refer to.

 Regards,
   Thomas Güttler



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