OK! I won't be able to make tomorrow but look forward to any insight and updates.
Alyssa. > On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Sorry for the delay, I should have responded to say March 31st is a > holiday in Indonesia and I wasn't going to make it. Let's stick to the > time tomorrow and then we can see about scheduling regular meetings. I > think having a meeting once a month or every couple weeks could be > beneficial. > > Thanks, > > -Kate > >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:27 PM, alyssa wright <alyssapwri...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> I won't be able to make April 2nd. Is it possible to speak on Monday, March >> 31st? >> >> Thanks, >> Alyssa. >> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Steven, >>> >>> Yes April 2nd. >>> >>> I agree I think education is very important way to get people >>> interested. HOT has been in the midst of a "University Roadshow" >>> within Indonesia. We will have introduced 11 universities to >>> OpenStreetMap as well as given students a chance to sign-up for >>> workshops. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Kate >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Steven Johnson <sejohns...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Kate & lists, >>>> >>>> If you mean, Wed, 2 April then yes, count me in. >>>> >>>> As fodder for the discussion, here's an article about a college trying >>>> to >>>> make CS studies more inclusive: http://tinyurl.com/ltl8yhr There are >>>> some >>>> transferable lessons for the OSM community. >>>> >>>> I'm cross-posting this reply to teachosm list because I've come to the >>>> conclusion that the route to diversity is goes directly through >>>> education >>>> and outreach. If we train middle- and high-schoolers to get involved >>>> mapping >>>> at a younger age, we stand a better chance at broadening the base of >>>> contributors. But we need an effort that scales and can be pitched >>>> toward a >>>> younger audience. >>>> >>>> Perhaps we can talk about this on the Wed call and tee up a follow-up >>>> birds-of-a-feather session the upcoming State o' the Map conference. >>>> >>>> SEJ >>>> >>>> -- SEJ >>>> -- twitter: @geomantic >>>> -- skype: sejohnson8 >>>> >>>> There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate >>>> from >>>> incomplete data. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> How about we schedule a meeting next week to discuss some possible >>>>> steps? If I suggest Wednesday at 14:00 UTC does that work for most >>>>> people that are interested? >>>>> >>>>> I'll volunteer HOT's mumble server(1) for the discuss unless someone >>>>> wants to volunteer a conference call line (which works >>>>> internationally). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> -Kate >>>>> >>>>> (1) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just wanted to share this article on editathons aimed at closing >>>>>> the >>>>>> gender gap in Wikipedia(1). >>>>>> >>>>>> Another item we could think about for mapping parties is to have a >>>>>> diversity statement. Groups could simply link to it on their meet-up >>>>>> page or whatever software they are using to organize. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> -Kate >>>>>> (1) >>>>>> >>>>>> http://blogs.kcrw.com/whichwayla/2014/02/edit-a-thons-aim-to-erase-wikipedias-gender-gap >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Randal Hale >>>>>> <rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I think the biggest problem in general is attracting new people - be >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> black white male female or green. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OSM is a niche thing - It doesn't matter what is done with new >>>>>>> editors >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> new ideas - your typical user isn't going to muck around in the wiki >>>>>>> (which >>>>>>> is a mess) OR get on a talk list and hope to get one of the people >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> don't consider OSM their own personal playground. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you want to learn OSM on the WIKI one of the first things covered >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> loading GPX data - once again new users don't care about that (maybe >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> they get more advanced - yes). The LearnOSM site is good - BUT - >>>>>>> which >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> definitive? The wiki OR the LearnOSM site (or maybe they both have >>>>>>> their own >>>>>>> merits. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I always try to look at it from a "win" perspective - how does OSM >>>>>>> win? >>>>>>> For >>>>>>> me it's a win if I can convince an elderly person to map their >>>>>>> neighborhood >>>>>>> or a kid to map their elementary school or something they enjoy. I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> tried these very things - but knowing I would be the portal into OSM >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> isn't a good spot for them to get that type of support and >>>>>>> understanding and >>>>>>> get questions answered. I spent a wonderful amount of time in the US >>>>>>> Virgin >>>>>>> Islands working this previous summer - and that was always something >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> wondered about "How can I convince a resident to show what they >>>>>>> "love" >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> OSM - be it their neighborhood or school or church?" The second >>>>>>> question >>>>>>> became if I do this - "who will they end up talking to if they get >>>>>>> active". >>>>>>> The second question always worried me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We've had conversations on this end about the "community map" aspect >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> OSM >>>>>>> - is it really just that? We've been beating a dead horse on other >>>>>>> talk >>>>>>> lists on "OSM Community" - and I think that is something that needs >>>>>>> definition - who do you want in OSM? Is it everyone? Is it only a >>>>>>> select >>>>>>> group? What is the current community? How is that defined? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Randy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>>> Randal Hale, GISP >>>>>>> North River Geographic Systems, Inc >>>>>>> http://www.northrivergeographic.com >>>>>>> 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com >>>>>>> rjh...@northrivergeographic.com >>>>>>> twitter:rjhale >>>>>>> http://about.me/rjhale >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 02/13/2014 08:29 AM, Alex Barth wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My top two priorities for increasing diversity, especially at >>>>>>> events, >>>>>>> are: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Appeal to newcomers. We're never going to create diversity with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> who are already part of OSM, so I try to make sure I'm speaking to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> people who I haven't met yet rather than the crowd who's in the >>>>>>> know. >>>>>>> - I make a personal effort to reach out to women to get involved. >>>>>>> Diversity >>>>>>> is not just more women, I know, but this is actionable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Fozy 81 <foz...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, I'd be interested to attend a meeting on Diversity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And on mapping parties/meetups. The wiki could be updated to >>>>>>>> include a >>>>>>>> few >>>>>>>> tips on how to be inclusive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So in my experience - first I started in a pub on a week night. And >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> honest that is an easy way to start (no room hire, convenient, >>>>>>>> beer). >>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>> nothing wrong with that . But have made the effort to mix it up >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> different venues and times to possibly attract different groups >>>>>>>> (which >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> worked to some extent). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I guess, the main thing is to run an event - it's a fun thing to >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> will gather the existing community and may attract new people. But >>>>>>>> IMHO if >>>>>>>> you are planning on running a series of events - try to mix the >>>>>>>> venues, >>>>>>>> times and groups you are interacting with. And try to find >>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>> contacts/ways to broadcast your event (social media, email, notices >>>>>>>> etc). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> + 1 all the advice on atmosphere/welcoming/questions etc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> diversity-talk mailing list >>>>>>>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> diversity-talk mailing list >>>>>>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> diversity-talk mailing list >>>>>>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >>>>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> diversity-talk mailing list >>>>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> diversity-talk mailing list >>> diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk >> >> _______________________________________________ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
