Re: [Diversity-talk] Diversity 2020 Article

2020-01-07 Thread Clifford Snow
Personally I don't think OSM having a CoC would reach to social media with
the possible exception of a person writing as an official of OSM, such as a
board member or working group. The goal of a CoC is to create a
welcoming inclusive community within OSM. Social media can be a toxic
environment that we as a community can't control. Yes, I'd like to see
Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, etc. clean up their act, but we have little or
no influence to do so. I live by one of Stephen Covey principles that we
should focus on what we have influence over not on our circle of concern.
What we do have is influence over is how inclusive and welcoming our
community treats other. We may be concerned about what's on Twitter,
Facebook, etc. but have no influence.

Best,
Clifford

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:17 PM Marc Gemis  wrote:

> Would a Code of Conduct also apply to social media that are not
> controlled by OSM/OSMF?
> E.g. Twitter is currently used by a certain part of the community to
> ridicule and criticize people writing on the mailing lists.
>
> regards
>
> m.
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 1:16 AM Clifford Snow 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> https://www.techrepublic.com/article/diversity-why-open-source-needs-to-work-on-it-in-2020/
> is an interesting read. The article talks about open source, but I don't
> see any significant difference between an open data project or an open
> source software project.
> >
> > What I took away from the article is
> >
> > We need to be more inclusive
> > Men (especially over 45) don't see diversity as an issue
> > Younger community members see things getting better
> > We need a clear and enforced Code of Conduct to create a welcoming
> community
> > Quotas are not the answer
> >
> > Just for the record, I'm a while male over (way over) 45.
> >
> > Happy New Year,
> > Clifford
> >
> > --
> > @osm_washington
> > www.snowandsnow.us
> > OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch
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> > Diversity-talk mailing list
> > Code of Conduct:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct
> > Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org
>


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Re: [Diversity-talk] Diversity 2020 Article

2020-01-07 Thread Marc Gemis
Would a Code of Conduct also apply to social media that are not
controlled by OSM/OSMF?
E.g. Twitter is currently used by a certain part of the community to
ridicule and criticize people writing on the mailing lists.

regards

m.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 1:16 AM Clifford Snow  wrote:
>
> https://www.techrepublic.com/article/diversity-why-open-source-needs-to-work-on-it-in-2020/
>  is an interesting read. The article talks about open source, but I don't see 
> any significant difference between an open data project or an open source 
> software project.
>
> What I took away from the article is
>
> We need to be more inclusive
> Men (especially over 45) don't see diversity as an issue
> Younger community members see things getting better
> We need a clear and enforced Code of Conduct to create a welcoming community
> Quotas are not the answer
>
> Just for the record, I'm a while male over (way over) 45.
>
> Happy New Year,
> Clifford
>
> --
> @osm_washington
> www.snowandsnow.us
> OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch
> ___
> Diversity-talk mailing list
> Code of Conduct: 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct
> Contact the mods (private): diversity-talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org

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[Diversity-talk] Diversity 2020 Article

2020-01-07 Thread Clifford Snow
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/diversity-why-open-source-needs-to-work-on-it-in-2020/
is
an interesting read. The article talks about open source, but I don't see
any significant difference between an open data project or an open source
software project.

What I took away from the article is

   - We need to be more inclusive
   - Men (especially over 45) don't see diversity as an issue
   - Younger community members see things getting better
   - We need a clear and enforced Code of Conduct to create a welcoming
   community
   - Quotas are not the answer

Just for the record, I'm a while male over (way over) 45.

Happy New Year,
Clifford

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