Re: Ping for ticket #6095 (m2m intermediary model)

2007-12-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

Thanks for the responses guys!  Have fun with your holiday
celebrations.

-Eric Florenzano

On Dec 21, 9:49 pm, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2007 6:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello All,
>
> > I've been working on adding m2m intermediary model functionality for a
> > while now, and the patch is to the point where I can't seem to find
> > any more edge cases to address.  At this point it needs people to try
> > it out and/or review the code.  There are up-to-date tests and
> > documentation to go along with the patch, by the way.
>
> > The files to look at are 6095-alpha-05.diff, and docs.diff.
>
> > I know that everyone's busy, but I just wanted to bring this up on-
> > list to raise awareness.
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> I've been keeping an eye on this patch, but I haven't had a chance for
> a week or so, what with the general pre-Christmas rush. I'll see if I
> can find some time to take the patch for a spin, but it could be about
> a week or so before that happens.
>
> Yours,
> Russ Magee %-)
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Re: Ping for ticket #6095 (m2m intermediary model)

2007-12-21 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss

Hey Eric --

Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on your work; looks pretty nice! I'm on
my way to my parents' house for the holidays, so the chance of me
actually doing anything with your patch soon is pretty low, but I'll
do my best to get to it as soon as I get back.

Thanks!

Jacob

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Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-21 Thread James Bennett

Guys, this is really degenerating into a bikeshed issue. Let it rest
for a while, OK? Endless "me too" comments don't add anything useful
to the discussion, and there are larger and more important things to
be working on right now.

And if anybody feels the need to post a snarky comment about
perfectionists caring about little details, I'd like to remind them
that perfectionism is, in large part, about knowing how to prioritize:
getting the little details right while larger problems persist is not
something a "perfectionist" would accept.


-- 
"Bureaucrat Conrad, you are technically correct -- the best kind of correct."

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Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-21 Thread Jordan
On Dec 21, 2007 4:42 AM, Robert Šmol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As my 0.02 cents of new comer I can confirm this was one of the things
> that slows adoption of Django. Proposed change to have ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX to
> be /admin_media/ (or either /media/admin/ ) makes more sense (at least for
> me). When I started with django I was confused with when I used /media for
> my media (as suggested in doc) just to find out my admin section is not
> working properly anymore. I either copy the admin folder from  django installation folder> to /media or I now change ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX to
> be /admin_media/ and setup a static server in my urls.conf and I'm pretty
> sure this not the right way anyway (it works but not out of the box).
>

I also had some issues with this when I first started learning Django.  I
remember following through the tutorials only to find that media wasn't
working as I had expected.  The problem was solved after visiting the IRC
channel and receiving some sarcastic support from someone in there.  I
consider myself proficient with Django now, so this is not a problem,
although one of the first things I do when I start a new Django app is
change ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX to 'admin-media'.

If this thread still means anything to the django devs, I am +1 on it.  To
me it seems like a minor backwards-incompatible change that would result in
a more enjoyable experience for Django newcomers and it might as well be
cleared up in the next major release.

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Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-21 Thread Robert Šmol
As my 0.02 cents of new comer I can confirm this was one of the things that
slows adoption of Django. Proposed change to have ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX to be
/admin_media/ (or either /media/admin/ ) makes more sense (at least for me).
When I started with django I was confused with when I used /media for my
media (as suggested in doc) just to find out my admin section is not working
properly anymore. I either copy the admin folder from  to /media or I now change ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX to be
/admin_media/ and setup a static server in my urls.conf and I'm pretty sure
this not the right way anyway (it works but not out of the box).

Than I had to disturb people in IRC and mailing lists and I'm pretty sure a
lot of newcomers do the same. And since you promote DJANGO to be easy to use
you have to expect really newcomers with hardly any Apache, project folder
organization, mod_python experience at all. Not gurus like you are, for whom
this seems such a trivial change to not even bother with it. This is when I
find Yuris comment about not understanding your users requirements to be
correct and valid.

Although I like Django very much I really cannot understand why there is
such a lot of everyones effort wasted on such a small and clean up  or
cosmetic (remember django fav icon issue?) changes instead of just doing
them. I use 0.96 and I'm pretty sure the SVN code is already a lot of
backward incompatible right?

all the best

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