ticket/15926, advice

2012-02-07 Thread Jonathan Paugh
Hello.

I just got good-and-into Django, and I'd like to contribute. I worked
some on a patch to ticket #15926
(https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/15926).

I think this patch deserves some attention. I'd also appreciate some
guidance on contributing, as needed.

I updated the previous patch to a (much) later tip of the git repo, and
expanded it's scope as per my comments on the ticket page. I also added
some documentation for my changes, which I believe is adequate.

Thanks for your help.
Jonathan

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Re: GSoC 2012 Proposal

2012-02-07 Thread Jonathan Paugh
On 02/07/2012 02:36 PM, Javier Guerra Giraldez wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Victor Buldakov
>  wrote:
>>  In my project I would like to develop the support of block with use
>> of the python code.
>>  In my opinion, it would make Django templates more flexible and
>> power.
> 
> from the "Philosophy" section of the template docs:
> 
> "Django template system is not simply Python embedded into HTML. This
> is by design: the template system is meant to express presentation,
> not program logic."
> 
> 
> in other words, the Django designers considered about embedding Python
> and decided against it.
> 
> 
However, there are lot's of other cool things one might do to templates.
Maybe extensions to the syntax would be acceptable, or additional
template tags. (Please note: I'm not a core dev and don't influence such
decisions.)

I believe someone recently suggested incorporating less
(http://lesscss.org/) and bootstrap
(http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap) into Django, and this might be
something you're interested in. At any rate, this list is full of good
propositions.

Cheers,
Jonathan

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Re: GSoC 2012 Proposal

2012-02-07 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi Victor --

Victor Buldakov wrote:
>   my name is Victor Buldakov,
>   I would like to participate in "Google Summer Of Code-2012" with the
> project on Django framework.
> 
>   Django templates is a simple and flexible tool. But I think that
> they unpythonic.
>   That is the reason why it is less flexible than, for exampe,
> configuration files.
> 
>   In my project I would like to develop the support of block with use
> of the python code.
>   In my opinion, it would make Django templates more flexible and
> power.

I'm excited that you're interested in participating in our GSoC program
 -- if we're accepted, of course. Note that the application period for
sponsoring organizations isn't even open yet, and Django's acceptance is
far from a certain thing. We obviously are going to apply again and hope
to be accepted, but that's a ways off still.

I have to say, though, that this proposal is pretty much a non-starter.
We're attached to our template language, so while we might consider
proposals to improve it, changing its basic philosophy is out of the
question.

I hope you'll take the time to come up with other ideas. We'll be
working on some suggestions over the next couple of months while
applications are being processed.

In the meantime, you'll want to start contributing *now*: we rarely
accept students who haven't been a part of the project for some time. If
you dive in and start making your name known around here you'll greatly
improve your chances of being accepted.

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Re: GSoC 2012 Proposal

2012-02-07 Thread Javier Guerra Giraldez
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Victor Buldakov
 wrote:
>  In my project I would like to develop the support of block with use
> of the python code.
>  In my opinion, it would make Django templates more flexible and
> power.

from the "Philosophy" section of the template docs:

"Django template system is not simply Python embedded into HTML. This
is by design: the template system is meant to express presentation,
not program logic."


in other words, the Django designers considered about embedding Python
and decided against it.


-- 
Javier

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GSoC 2012 Proposal

2012-02-07 Thread Victor Buldakov
To whom it may concern,

  my name is Victor Buldakov,
  I would like to participate in "Google Summer Of Code-2012" with the
project on Django framework.

  Django templates is a simple and flexible tool. But I think that
they unpythonic.
  That is the reason why it is less flexible than, for exampe,
configuration files.

  In my project I would like to develop the support of block with use
of the python code.
  In my opinion, it would make Django templates more flexible and
power.

  I think that Django framework is very ergonomic and convenient, but
I would like to make it more applicable.
  That's why I would like to cooperate with you within the work of
your company.
  I think that my experience in work with Python and Django will be
useful in the development of the project.

  Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

   Sincerely yours,

   Victor Buldakov

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