Re: mod_python documentation issues

2007-09-17 Thread Robert Šmol
Hi,
sorry to step in. I'm newcomer to Django+Python.

> Except that you do /not/ need to add the project directory to
> > pythonpath, if you just reference everything properly and include the
> > project name.


I have run into exactly this issue and spend couple of hours searching
django users archives (maybe even whole day). When you know python for some
time it is quite obvious that either include every project dir on PYTHON
path or use full naming. However not as newbie, specially when you follow
the URL tutorial part for first time you can get the feeling like python
always check even current directory. So you end up with various mixed import
strings across your first application, bit thinking that this is probably
the way how to de-couple apps from projects and it works on django
testserver. I agree some small documentation update would fix it.

best regards
robert

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Re: Still no favicon - Re: Visual recognition of Django website

2007-10-04 Thread Robert Šmol
Hello all,
I'm the creator of this mess as I'm the issuer of the ticket 3867. I like
django very much, I'm not that great at python yet to contribute so that was
my try to help you guys. If  I would only know how much time would be wasted
on this discussion I wouldn't raise that call at all. So sorry for that.
Still, I have to say I miss the favicon a lot:

http://www.stereoit.com/django/django_favicon_missing.png

and I thought it is just about taking the icon file and place it to the root
of the htdocs folder (1 minute?). I've attached another try of django
favicon to the ticket (16x16,48x48 and GIMP xcf file), this time with "dj"
that clearly distinguish django.
Any comments on the icon style is appreciated and I will improve it to the
point where you like it. Once everybody is happy with that, just place it to
the htdocs and move on.

I hope I didn't offended anyone. I know you all are really busy with django
internals.


Kind regards,

Robert Smol

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Re: Reconsider ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX default?

2007-12-21 Thread Robert Šmol
As my 0.02 cents of new comer I can confirm this was one of the things that
slows adoption of Django. Proposed change to have ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX to be
/admin_media/ (or either /media/admin/ ) makes more sense (at least for me).
When I started with django I was confused with when I used /media for my
media (as suggested in doc) just to find out my admin section is not working
properly anymore. I either copy the admin folder from  to /media or I now change ADMIN_MEDIA_PREFIX to be
/admin_media/ and setup a static server in my urls.conf and I'm pretty sure
this not the right way anyway (it works but not out of the box).

Than I had to disturb people in IRC and mailing lists and I'm pretty sure a
lot of newcomers do the same. And since you promote DJANGO to be easy to use
you have to expect really newcomers with hardly any Apache, project folder
organization, mod_python experience at all. Not gurus like you are, for whom
this seems such a trivial change to not even bother with it. This is when I
find Yuris comment about not understanding your users requirements to be
correct and valid.

Although I like Django very much I really cannot understand why there is
such a lot of everyones effort wasted on such a small and clean up  or
cosmetic (remember django fav icon issue?) changes instead of just doing
them. I use 0.96 and I'm pretty sure the SVN code is already a lot of
backward incompatible right?

all the best

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Re: mod_python issue

2008-04-13 Thread Robert Šmol
Maybe django-developers is really confusing ("I am developer using django"
is not "I am developer of the django" ), have you been guys thinking about
moving to another name? django-internals?

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Mike Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This mailing list is for the development of django itself. Your issue is
> with mod_python and is probably better answered at
> http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python
>
> It has nothing to do with django itself.
>
>
>
>
> If you have any issues with django, then the first port of call (and often
> the only port of call) is the django-users list.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:24 AM, jurian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've been battling with this issue for half a day now.
> >
> > This is the error I'm getting when starting-up apache:
> >
> > [Sun Apr 13 20:13:29 2008] [error] make_obcallback: could not import
> > mod_python.apache.\n
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >  File "/home/django/active/Python-2.5.2/lib/python2.5/site-packages/
> > mod_python/apache.py", line 23, in 
> >import time
> > ImportError: No module named time
> > [Sun Apr 13 20:13:29 2008] [error] make_obcallback: Python path being
> > used "['/home/django/active/Python-2.5.2/lib/python25.zip', '/home/
> > django/active/Python-2.5.2/lib/python2.5', '/home/django/active/
> > Python-2.5.2/lib/python2.5/plat-linux2', '/home/django/active/
> > Python-2.5.2/lib/python2.5/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload',
> > '/home/django/active/Python-2.5.2/lib/python2.5/site-packages', '/usr/
> > lib/python2.5/site-packages']".
> >
> >
> > The server works, but mod_python doesn't.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
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Re: mod_python issue

2008-04-13 Thread Robert Šmol
Ok, so you mean people post here even the read the description? I was more
thinking that they read only the group-name, not the description of the
group name and this is what is causing their confusion. Anyway, I guess not
a big deal.

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Robert Šmol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Maybe django-developers is really confusing ("I am developer using
> django"
> > is not "I am developer of the django" ), have you been guys thinking
> about
> > moving to another name? django-internals?
>
> The description of the list
> (http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/about) says:
>
> """
> Discussion group for Django developers. This group is used for
> discussion of developing Django itself, not user questions; Please use
> django-users for issues regarding using the framework, questions for
> the Django user community outreach, etc.
> """
>
> Changing the name would just give folks another thing to ignore.
>
> Jacob
>
> >
>

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