Re: Should docs.djangoproject.com link to 1.1 frozen docs by default, not SVN dev docs?

2009-12-04 Thread SmileyChris
This should be a high priority fix.

Anyone new to Django and using the installation of 1.1.1 (which the
download page recommends over trunk) will currently be unable to
follow the tutorial.
I was having a face to face meeting today with someone who had exactly
this problem.

On Nov 6, 1:53 am, Russell Keith-Magee  wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Taylor Marshall
>
>  wrote:
>
> > I definitely agree with this change.   I've even had a hard time
> > finding 1.1 docs at all, it seems like the site dumps you to dev docs
> > by default, and if you look for "old" docs, you end up with 1.0 rather
> > than 1.1.
>
> The 1.1 docs are there - at the somewhat predictable URL:
>
> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.1/
>
> However, they aren't linked anywhere obvious that I can find, and they
> aren't explicitly available on the Google search widget.
>
> I agree with Simon, though. Now that we have a semi-regular release
> schedule, there isn't as great a need to stay on trunk, so we should
> be encouraging people to download the stable release unless they have
> a need to ride the bleeding edge. To that end, the default docs should
> be stable, not development.
>
> My only caveat on this is that we need to ensure 1.1 means "the
> current code in the 1.1.X branch", not "the contents of the 1.1
> release". We are constantly updating and clarifying docs, and it's
> important that these changes are reflected online.
>
> Yours,
> Russ Magee %-)

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Should docs.djangoproject.com link to 1.1 frozen docs by default, not SVN dev docs?

2009-11-04 Thread Simon Willison

Now that 1.2 features have started to merge (great work everyone
involved with the Email backends and ManyToMany refactorings, they
look fantastic) we're entering one of those relatively rare periods of
instability in trunk. This is exactly the kind of time that we want
most of our regular users to be sticking with the 1.1.1 release, while
the super-engaged community members try out the new stuff as it's
added.

There's just one problem: http://docs.djangoproject.com/ defaults to
displaying the development docs. In fact, there isn't even an option
to see frozen docs for 1.1 (just an option to see them for 1.0). These
are going to start being pretty confusing for 1.1.1 users, for example
the e-mail docs now cover backends:

http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/email/

We include "New in Django Development version" warnings, but it still
feels a bit odd. In a post-1.0 world, I think it would make more sense
for the documentation linked to directly from the
docs.djangoproject.com homepage to cover the most recent official
release, with a bit less emphasis on the development version's docs.
Basically what the Python docs at http://docs.python.org/ do.

I may have missed a previous conversation about this, if so please
feel free to direct me to the old thread.

Cheers,

Simon
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