Re: Unsolicited mentorship requests

[Adam Johnson]

 I get about one random mentorship / free support question a week, but no
cluster recently. I normally tell people no with a similar message to
Markus'.

On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 18:23, Markus Holtermann 
wrote:

> Interesting. Because I got a similar messages this morning, one on Twitter
> and one on LinkedIn. Here's my response:
>
> > Hi {{ name }}. Thank you for reaching out. Unfortunately, I'm not
> available for outside help at this time. If you need help working on Django
> projects would like to suggest the django-users mailing list, the
> discussion forum, or the IRC channel as documented on
> djangoproject.com/community/ . If you are looking for mentoring working
> on Django itself, please use the django-core-mentorship mailing list (
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/internals/mailing-lists/#django-core-mentorship)
> or the discussion forum. Cheers and stay safe. Markus
>
> Maybe that helps?
>
> Cheers, Markus
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Daniele Procida wrote:
> > Elena Williams wrote:
> >
> > >Just want to bring this up in case it's a "Thing"[tm] now, that I have
> > >missed: this last week I've had 3 different non-Australia non-female-
> > >presenting individuals who I don't know solicit me privately on social
> > >media for personal Django "mentorship". Frankly it's made me feel pretty
> > >uncomfortable, but I've never been approached like this so rather than
> > >just ruminating I thought I should just ask around if any one is
> > >familiar with this happening? It's just several in a short window of
> > >time seemed like a weird pattern.
> >
> > That seems unusual, to me at least.
> >
> > I also get contacted regularly about all kinds of things, but not in
> > such a pattern.
> >
> > Is there something off about the tone, or the assumptions?
> >
> > One never really knows where one's name has been shared, and what
> > expectations have been formed. I have in the past felt bothered by such
> > things without always being able to put my finger on why.
> >
> > Asking for personal mentorship without an introduction or explanation
> > certainly seems a bit weird, and I would not like it either.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Daniele
> >
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Re: Unsolicited mentorship requests

[Markus Holtermann]

Interesting. Because I got a similar messages this morning, one on Twitter and 
one on LinkedIn. Here's my response:

> Hi {{ name }}. Thank you for reaching out. Unfortunately, I'm not available 
> for outside help at this time. If you need help working on Django projects 
> would like to suggest the django-users mailing list, the discussion forum, or 
> the IRC channel as documented on djangoproject.com/community/ . If you are 
> looking for mentoring working on Django itself, please use the 
> django-core-mentorship mailing list 
> (https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/internals/mailing-lists/#django-core-mentorship)
>  or the discussion forum. Cheers and stay safe. Markus

Maybe that helps?

Cheers, Markus

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Daniele Procida wrote:
> Elena Williams wrote:
> 
> >Just want to bring this up in case it's a "Thing"[tm] now, that I have
> >missed: this last week I've had 3 different non-Australia non-female-
> >presenting individuals who I don't know solicit me privately on social
> >media for personal Django "mentorship". Frankly it's made me feel pretty
> >uncomfortable, but I've never been approached like this so rather than
> >just ruminating I thought I should just ask around if any one is
> >familiar with this happening? It's just several in a short window of
> >time seemed like a weird pattern.
> 
> That seems unusual, to me at least.
> 
> I also get contacted regularly about all kinds of things, but not in 
> such a pattern.
> 
> Is there something off about the tone, or the assumptions?
> 
> One never really knows where one's name has been shared, and what 
> expectations have been formed. I have in the past felt bothered by such 
> things without always being able to put my finger on why.
> 
> Asking for personal mentorship without an introduction or explanation 
> certainly seems a bit weird, and I would not like it either.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Daniele
> 
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Re: Unsolicited mentorship requests

[Daniele Procida]

Elena Williams wrote:

>Just want to bring this up in case it's a "Thing"[tm] now, that I have
>missed: this last week I've had 3 different non-Australia non-female-
>presenting individuals who I don't know solicit me privately on social
>media for personal Django "mentorship". Frankly it's made me feel pretty
>uncomfortable, but I've never been approached like this so rather than
>just ruminating I thought I should just ask around if any one is
>familiar with this happening? It's just several in a short window of
>time seemed like a weird pattern.

That seems unusual, to me at least.

I also get contacted regularly about all kinds of things, but not in such a 
pattern.

Is there something off about the tone, or the assumptions?

One never really knows where one's name has been shared, and what expectations 
have been formed. I have in the past felt bothered by such things without 
always being able to put my finger on why.

Asking for personal mentorship without an introduction or explanation certainly 
seems a bit weird, and I would not like it either.

Regards,

Daniele

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Unsolicited mentorship requests

[Elena Williams]

Hiya team,

I'm confident that this is the wrong place to ask -- which list is the
correct to have this conversation?

Just want to bring this up in case it's a "Thing"[tm] now, that I have
missed: this last week I've had 3 different non-Australia
non-female-presenting individuals who I don't know solicit me privately on
social media for personal Django "mentorship". Frankly it's made me feel
pretty uncomfortable, but I've never been approached like this so rather
than just ruminating I thought I should just ask around if any one is
familiar with this happening? It's just several in a short window of time
seemed like a weird pattern.

Any advice appreciated,
---
Elena Williams
Github: elena 

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