Re: [Django] #25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges

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#25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges
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 Reporter:  JorisBenschop  |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  New feature|   Status:  closed
Component:  Testing framework  |  Version:  1.9
 Severity:  Normal |   Resolution:  worksforme
 Keywords: | Triage Stage:  Unreviewed
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Changes (by timgraham):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => worksforme


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Re: [Django] #25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges

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#25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges
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 Reporter:  JorisBenschop  |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  New feature|   Status:  new
Component:  Testing framework  |  Version:  1.9
 Severity:  Normal |   Resolution:
 Keywords: | Triage Stage:  Unreviewed
Has patch:  0  |  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0  |  Patch needs improvement:  0
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Comment (by Tim Graham ):

 In [changeset:"738bda8a6feea95d07b73246365e75b3d25e3466" 738bda8]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="738bda8a6feea95d07b73246365e75b3d25e3466"
 Refs #25899 -- Improved visibility of TEST database settings in testing
 docs.
 }}}

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Re: [Django] #25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges

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#25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges
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 Reporter:  JorisBenschop  |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  New feature|   Status:  new
Component:  Testing framework  |  Version:  1.9
 Severity:  Normal |   Resolution:
 Keywords: | Triage Stage:  Unreviewed
Has patch:  0  |  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0  |  Patch needs improvement:  0
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Comment (by Tim Graham ):

 In [changeset:"9f3ce6d987f2a78dc97f6147efac41071c2ec085" 9f3ce6d9]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="9f3ce6d987f2a78dc97f6147efac41071c2ec085"
 [1.9.x] Refs #25899 -- Improved visibility of TEST database settings in
 testing docs.

 Backport of 738bda8a6feea95d07b73246365e75b3d25e3466 from master
 }}}

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Re: [Django] #25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges

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#25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges
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 Reporter:  JorisBenschop  |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  New feature|   Status:  new
Component:  Testing framework  |  Version:  1.9
 Severity:  Normal |   Resolution:
 Keywords: | Triage Stage:  Unreviewed
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Comment (by JorisBenschop):

 Apologies, I should have read more thoroughly. I will use the pointers
 given. Thanks for the docs improvement also. I guess this ticket can be
 resolved-fixed-closed?

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Re: [Django] #25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges

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#25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges
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 Reporter:  JorisBenschop  |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  New feature|   Status:  new
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Comment (by timgraham):

 [https://github.com/django/django/pull/5812 Doc proposal] for the testings
 docs.

 Maybe a subsection under Oracle in `docs/ref/databases.txt` could also be
 added if we need more details about those Oracle specific settings?

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Re: [Django] #25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges

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#25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges
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 Type:  New feature|   Status:  new
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Comment (by shaib):

 There are `TEST` parameters for this -- Everything from
 [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/ref/settings/#create-db CREATE_DB]
 onwards is essentially serving the need you raise here. Note that settings
 are much more appropriate than command arguments for this use-case.

 Can you offer a documentation change that will make these settings easier
 to find?

 (`NAME`, specifically, has a very different meaning on Oracle -- it
 selects the service to connect to, rather than a database on that service
 like it does for other backends.)

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Re: [Django] #25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges

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#25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges
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 Reporter:  JorisBenschop  |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  New feature|   Status:  new
Component:  Testing framework  |  Version:  1.9
 Severity:  Normal |   Resolution:
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Comment (by timgraham):

 A couple sentences after the one you quoted, "If you want to use a
 different database name, specify NAME in the TEST dictionary for any given
 database in DATABASES." Could you combine this with the `manage.py test
 --keepdb` option to get the desired result?

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Re: [Django] #25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges

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#25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges
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 Reporter:  JorisBenschop  |Owner:  nobody
 Type:  New feature|   Status:  new
Component:  Testing framework  |  Version:  1.9
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Changes (by JorisBenschop):

 * needs_better_patch:   => 0
 * component:  Uncategorized => Testing framework
 * needs_tests:   => 0
 * needs_docs:   => 0


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[Django] #25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges

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#25899: manage.py tests requires database creation privileges
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 Reporter:  JorisBenschop  |  Owner:  nobody
 Type:  New feature| Status:  new
Component:  Uncategorized  |Version:  1.9
 Severity:  Normal |   Keywords:
 Triage Stage:  Unreviewed |  Has patch:  0
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 From
 {{{
 #https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.9/topics/testing/overview/#the-test-
 database
 By default the test databases get their names by prepending test_ to the
 value of the NAME settings for the databases defined in DATABASES.
 }}}

 I guess this works great on sqlite and my homegrown postgres machine, but
 I'm developing applications on Oracle RAC clusters, and I hope you can see
 this is not an environment I'd be allowed to create databases on. The
 database schemas are rather complex (using things like RAW(16) primary
 keys and reference-based partitioning) and I'm not allowing Django to make
 the tables itself.

 I have been unable to find a workaround in documentation (e.g. --use-this-
 database-instead-of-creating-one= and --assume-models-are-present ). If
 this exists, please change this ticket into a documentation request
 instead.

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