Re: [Django] #27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template

[Django]

#27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template
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 Reporter:  David D Lowe |Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Core (Management |  Version:  1.10
  commands)  |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Someday/Maybe
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  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Tom Carrick):

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Re: [Django] #27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template

[Django]

#27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template
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 Reporter:  David D Lowe |Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Core (Management |  Version:  1.10
  commands)  |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Someday/Maybe
Has patch:  0|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Thibaud Colas):

   reading this ticket, and https://forum.djangoproject.com/t/django-new-
 project-structure-name/9987/10, and https://groups.google.com/g/django-
 developers/c/SwFAy8GbhmE – it seems to me like this is only blocked by the
 decision on the project structure. Other than that blocker, I see lots of
 approval for:

 - A custom user model by default
 - It being in a `users` app
 - And there’s been no feedback on Tim’s PR to name said model `User` in a
 `models.py` file (phew).

 I thought I’d record this here to note at least what there seems to be
 consensus on.

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Re: [Django] #27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template

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#27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template
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 Reporter:  David D Lowe |Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Core (Management |  Version:  1.10
  commands)  |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Someday/Maybe
Has patch:  0|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Carsten Fuchs):

 * cc: Carsten Fuchs (added)


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Re: [Django] #27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template

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#27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template
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 Reporter:  David D Lowe |Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Core (Management |  Version:  1.10
  commands)  |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Someday/Maybe
Has patch:  0|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Timothy Allen):

 I've issued a PR that does this and makes the configuration directory
 named `config` instead of `{{ project_name }}` here:
 https://github.com/django/django/pull/15609

 These two items have been the most frequent pain points I've run into when
 teaching newcomers.

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Re: [Django] #27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template

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#27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template
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 Reporter:  David D Lowe |Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Core (Management |  Version:  1.10
  commands)  |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Someday/Maybe
Has patch:  0|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by David D Lowe):

 I guess the underlying issue is that it is so hard to migrate from not
 having AUTH_USER_MODEL set to having it set. If it were easier to migrate,
 then it wouldn't matter what it was set to in the startproject template.

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Re: [Django] #27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template

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#27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template
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 Reporter:  David D Lowe |Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Core (Management |  Version:  1.10
  commands)  |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Someday/Maybe
Has patch:  0|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Tobias Kunze):

 Since you need a model to hand to AUTH_USER_MODEL, and this model should
 be in an app, you can't really populate this setting in `startproject`,
 before having run `startapp`. Adding an app directly on `startproject`
 seems like taking the defaults too far, at least to me, so I'm not clear
 on where this value for AUTH_USER_MODEL is supposed to come in.

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Re: [Django] #27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template (was: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in quick-start template)

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#27909: Use AUTH_USER_MODEL in startproject template
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 Reporter:  David D Lowe |Owner:  nobody
 Type:   |   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization   |
Component:  Core (Management |  Version:  1.10
  commands)  |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Someday/Maybe
Has patch:  0|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Tim Graham):

 * type:  Uncategorized => Cleanup/optimization
 * stage:  Unreviewed => Someday/Maybe
 * component:  Uncategorized => Core (Management commands)


Comment:

 This was proposed in ticket:24370#comment:3, however, it should be
 discussed on the DevelopersMailingList to ensure there's consensus about
 it. Feel free to start a thread.

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