Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  closed
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Ready for
 |  checkin
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Changes (by אורי):

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  closed
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Ready for
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Comment (by אורי):

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  closed
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Ready for
 |  checkin
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Changes (by Petar Marić):

 * cc: Petar Marić (added)


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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  closed
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Ready for
 |  checkin
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Mariusz Felisiak ):

 * status:  assigned => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 In [changeset:"4bfe8c0eec835b8eaffcda7dc1e3b203751a790a" 4bfe8c0]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="4bfe8c0eec835b8eaffcda7dc1e3b203751a790a"
 Fixed #6106 -- Prevented makemessages from changing .po files when up to
 date.

 Co-authored-by: Daniyal Abbasi 
 }}}

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Ready for
 |  checkin
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  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
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Changes (by Mariusz Felisiak):

 * stage:  Accepted => Ready for checkin


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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
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Changes (by Ad Timmering):

 * needs_better_patch:  1 => 0


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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  1
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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 * cc: Arthur (added)


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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  1
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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 * needs_better_patch:  0 => 1


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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Daniyal Abbasi):

 * needs_tests:  1 => 0


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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  1|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Mariusz Felisiak):

 * needs_tests:  0 => 1


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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Daniyal Abbasi):

 * needs_tests:  1 => 0


Comment:

 Sure. For now I've added a test in the test_extraction.BasicExtractorTests
 class itself.

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  1|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Ad Timmering):

 Great. I would probably suggest you pick whatever place you think is best
 for the tests for now and add them to the PR, so you can remove the "Needs
 tests" flag - which will then trigger someone coming in for review. (As
 you will have seen the Django team just pushed 4.0.0 alpha 1 so are
 probably a bit occupied at the moment).

 It looks like the tests in `test_extraction` are broken out quite
 granularly over multiple classes, so personally I would probably suggest a
 separate test class.

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  1|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Daniyal Abbasi):

 Hey
 Yes I do have the time to work on this. I'm waiting on some guidance on
 how I should be incorporating the tests for the same!

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  1|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Ad Timmering):

 Hi @Daniyal - would love to see this implemented. I think the last request
 was to add tests - to which you asked a question (ticket:33056#comment:3)
 on where to put them. Do you still have time to work on tests, and/or are
 you still waiting for a reply to that?

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  1|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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 * cc: Ad Timmering (added)


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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Daniyal
 Type:   |  Abbasi
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  assigned
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  1|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Mariusz Felisiak):

 * owner:  Ramiro Morales => Daniyal Abbasi
 * status:  new => assigned


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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Ramiro
 Type:   |  Morales
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  new
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:  Accepted
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  1|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Mariusz Felisiak):

 * status:  closed => new
 * resolution:  wontfix =>
 * stage:  Unreviewed => Accepted


Comment:

 Reopening. Discussion in DevelopersMailingList seems to reached a
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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Ramiro
 Type:   |  Morales
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  closed
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:  wontfix
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Unreviewed
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  1|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Daniyal Abbasi):

 Sure Mariusz. I've started the discussion on the mailing list!
 [https://groups.google.com/g/django-developers/c/8QK4MYIE-
 Us/m/oNygOdHTAwAJ Link]

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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 Reporter:  Marc Fargas  |Owner:  Ramiro
 Type:   |  Morales
  Cleanup/optimization   |   Status:  closed
Component:   |  Version:  dev
  Internationalization   |
 Severity:  Normal   |   Resolution:  wontfix
 Keywords:   | Triage Stage:
 |  Unreviewed
Has patch:  1|  Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  1|  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0|UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Mariusz Felisiak):

 * severity:   => Normal
 * cc: Daniyal Abbasi (added)
 * needs_tests:  0 => 1
 * easy:   => 0
 * ui_ux:   => 0
 * type:   => Cleanup/optimization
 * stage:  Someday/Maybe => Unreviewed


Comment:

 Daniyal, Can you take this to DevelopersMailingList to reach a wider
 audience and see what other think? see
 [https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/33056#comment:6 comment].

 [https://github.com/django/django/pull/14800 PR]

 #33056 was a duplicate.

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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  Reporter:  telenieko | Owner:  ramiro
Status:  closed| Milestone:
 Component:  Internationalization  |   Version:  SVN   
Resolution:  wontfix   |  Keywords:
 Stage:  Someday/Maybe | Has_patch:  1 
Needs_docs:  0 |   Needs_tests:  0 
Needs_better_patch:  0 |  
---+
Changes (by claudep):

  * status:  assigned => closed
  * resolution:  => wontfix

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
---+
  Reporter:  telenieko | Owner:  ramiro
Status:  assigned  | Milestone:
 Component:  Internationalization  |   Version:  SVN   
Resolution:|  Keywords:
 Stage:  Someday/Maybe | Has_patch:  1 
Needs_docs:  0 |   Needs_tests:  0 
Needs_better_patch:  0 |  
---+
Comment (by claudep):

 IMHO this is clearly a wontfix issue, as jezdez stated. It is perfectly
 legitimate to update POT-Creation-Date each time a po file is updated.

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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  Reporter:  telenieko | Owner:  ramiro
Status:  assigned  | Milestone:
 Component:  Internationalization  |   Version:  SVN   
Resolution:|  Keywords:
 Stage:  Someday/Maybe | Has_patch:  1 
Needs_docs:  0 |   Needs_tests:  0 
Needs_better_patch:  0 |  
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Changes (by jezdez):

  * stage:  Accepted => Someday/Maybe
  * milestone:  1.2 =>

Comment:

 Hm, according to the gettext manual
 (http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Header-Entry)
 {{{POT-Creation-Date}}} will be filled out by xgettext and {{{PO-Revision-
 Date}}} "by the PO file editor when you save the file". In other words:
 {{{PO-Revision-Date}}} doesn't have anything to do with
 collection/updating translation strings but with the actual translation by
 the translators, as in "When was this file revised last time?".

 As long as we use the *.po files for the same purpose as *.pot files,
 {{{POT-Creation-Date}}} is the field that is updated automatically.

 I'm changing this to someday/maybe since we shouldn't redefine the meaning
 of gettext's header fields.

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
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  Reporter:  telenieko | Owner:  ramiro
Status:  assigned  | Milestone:  1.2   
 Component:  Internationalization  |   Version:  SVN   
Resolution:|  Keywords:
 Stage:  Accepted  | Has_patch:  1 
Needs_docs:  0 |   Needs_tests:  0 
Needs_better_patch:  0 |  
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Changes (by ramiro):

  * milestone:  => 1.2

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Re: [Django] #6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date

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#6106: make-messages.py should not touch POT-Creation-Date
---+
  Reporter:  telenieko | Owner:  ramiro
Status:  assigned  | Milestone:
 Component:  Internationalization  |   Version:  SVN   
Resolution:|  Keywords:
 Stage:  Accepted  | Has_patch:  1 
Needs_docs:  0 |   Needs_tests:  0 
Needs_better_patch:  0 |  
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Changes (by ramiro):

  * owner:  nobody => ramiro
  * status:  new => assigned
  * has_patch:  0 => 1

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