Re: can Django replace PHP ?

[Ari Davidow]

I can't think of any application where you would want php in an environment
where python is already available UNLESS there is a requirement to use a
php-specific content management system such as WordPress or Drupal.

ari

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 9:17 AM Krishna Adhikari  wrote:

> Hello all  my seniors
>
> I am doing Data Science programming (python) for 3 years now in my
> organization I also have to develop a Web Platform to deeply ML models and
> also to develop other web applications together.
>
> I searched a lot of information on google, but till now I did not make a
> decision should I learn PHP or I can handle it all with Django?
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> *can we solve all kinds of web application problems with Django without
> learning PHP ?? *
> *or PHP also recommended.*
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Re: My replies are not reaching the list

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The list is more likely set up not to send your own responses to you. In
any event, this one message certainly reached the list.

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Re: Sources for learning django

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The Django Project’s own tutorial is a good place to start: 
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.1/intro/tutorial01/ 




> On Aug 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mohamed Ghoneim  wrote:
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> Hey guys, 
> 
> can any one tell me  name of books , websites or youtube channels  which are 
> good to learn django .
> 
> i also want to ask ,how long does it take to learn django ?
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Quick way to set up a faceted search/database using Django?

[Ari Davidow]

One response to the #blacklivesmatter protests in response to the
murder of George Floyd and so many others could be to put up a web
page - links to local protests/vigils, videos to watch (especially
if white and learning about "white privilege", organizations who can
use donations specifically right now, legislative initiatives and
local town initiatives to reform policing, etc.

In the old days, I would put the whole kit and caboodle up onto a
long static web page (or cms page) and edit the thing manually,
maintaining a host of links to the different sections and maybe even
repeating information so that people could find it in different
sections, etc.

This is a basic database/facets question, I think. What is the
easiest way to put together a database noting a few common things
(link field, title, description, tags) and then put together
something that helps people construct a narrative - "what is
happening today" or "who is working on this issue" or "what is
available on video" and requires minimum maintenance (put stuff in
the db once) and maximum support for those narratives.

It feels pretty basic, but I have always done it manually before.
There is no way I can usefully maintain something when so much
changes so quickly if I have to edit each appearance of each link -
and no way to make it easy for people to find things if I work that
way.

Suggestions? What is like this that I might study and make suit?
What do developers call this such that I can (relatively) quickly
figure out how to set this up in, say, Django or React.js or
whatever appropriate Framework? What would the relevant modules, or the 
relevant approach be?
TIA for any advice,
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Re: Google Plus going away - is Groups staying ?

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Google creates and drops products all the time. The ones that get dropped are 
generally unpopular ones (or ones that they can’t monetize). Google Groups is 
in no danger of being dropped anytime soon.

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Re: Google Plus going away - is Groups staying ?

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Only Google+ is going away. GoogleGroups, including this group, not affected.

> On Dec 14, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Jason  wrote:
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Re: Virtual Groups for learning Django

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There seem to be a host of python-related slack groups. I am part of 
python-community.slack.org, which, I believe is connected to the Boston 
community. To answer the question at hand, there is djangoboston.slack.com 
which also holds monthly meetups in the Boston area.

That could get you started.

ari


> On Nov 4, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Hardipinder Singh  wrote:
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> Anyone has the link to join slack django group?
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 20:49, Raul Berina  > wrote:
> Joine Slack Python Developer Group
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> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 9:52 PM Expo Tor  > wrote:
> Anyone can recommend any online virtual groups for Django? I mean it should 
> be sth more than online tutorials - where users can come in real-time with 
> their questions.
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Re: text editor

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>why?

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018, 1:51 AM RONAK JAIN  wrote:

> Atom is best editor.
>
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, 11:11 a.m. sankar ardhas, 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi to all,
>> Which is the best editor for django framework  in Ubuntu os
>> 18.04
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 1:46 AM +0530, "RONAK JAIN" <
>> jainronak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Namaste !!
>>>
>>> Dear ,
>>>
>>> I have two models categories and Project.
>>>
>>>  created like that :
>>>
>>> class Category(models.Model):
>>> categorys = models.ManyToManyField('Category',blank=True)
>>> name = models.CharField(max_length=100)
>>> created_at = models.DateTimeField(auto_now=False, auto_now_add=True)
>>> updated_at = models.DateTimeField(auto_now=True)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> class Meta:
>>> verbose_name_plural = "Categories"
>>>
>>> def __str__(self):
>>> return self.name
>>>
>>> def __unicode__(self):
>>> return self.categorys
>>>
>>> class Project(models.Model):
>>> categorys = models.ManyToManyField('Category',blank=True)
>>> name = models.CharField(max_length=100)
>>> description = models.CharField(max_length=100)
>>> created_at = models.DateTimeField(auto_now=False, auto_now_add=True)
>>> updated_at = models.DateTimeField(auto_now=True)
>>> photo = models.ImageField(upload_to="pictures")
>>>
>>>
>>> def __str__(self):
>>> return self.name
>>>
>>> def __unicode__(self):
>>> return self.categorys
>>>
>>> *and Views I did here :*
>>>
>>> *from web.models import Category,Project*
>>>
>>> class Portfolio(TemplateView):
>>> template_name = "web/protfolio.html"
>>>
>>> def post(self, request, *args, **kwargs):
>>> context = self.get_context_data()
>>> return super(TemplateView, self).render_to_response(context)
>>>
>>> def portfolio(request):
>>>   context = RequestContext(request)
>>>   # Project_list = Project.objects.order_by('-likes')[:3]
>>>   # context_dict = {'Project': project_list}
>>>   # return render(template_name, context_dict, context
>>>   brand_list = Category.objects.all()
>>>   return render(template_name, {'brand_list' : brand_list},
>>> context)
>>>
>>> *I need correct relationship both I mean project and categories. How can
>>> I do correct here ? *
>>> Note : I attached picture please analyse briefly.
>>>
>>> How to do approch html page and   I want  the html(view) page should
>>> load from our db.
>>> please give me quickly answer.
>>> How can i do ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Ronak
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putting together a simple calendar of events in Django

[Ari Davidow]

Hi,

I have a website that has been using a version of the Moveable Type
blogging tool for a simple calendar of events. This works quite well: By
reversing the order of display, I am able to show events from today forward
(as opposed to typical blog display of "today, back")

What makes a Calendar of Events different from a regular scheduling
calendar is primarily that you can have a plethora of events scheduled at
the same time. Some Calendars find that problematic. But, if you go to
newspaper sites, public community sites, they often have decent calendars.

Has anyone used Django for this type of application? What worked best for
you? Can you point me to a tutorial/preferred module(s)?

Thx,
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Re: Python 2 versus 3

[Ari Davidow]

Python 2 in general is reaching end of life. If you have the time to make
the transition to Python 3 now, it will be significantly easier to maintain
your installation (or any other python application) moving forward.

ari

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:04 AM, BIJAL MANIAR  wrote:

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> Hi,
>
> I have current django application with django 1.11 and python 2.7.
> Python 2.7 has support till 2020-01-01 and 3.5 has support till 2020-09-13.
> I've been asked to upgrade to Python 3.5. My question is why is there a
> need to upgrade from 2.7 to 3.5 as EOL support for both of them is nearly
> the same.
> Should I invest time in upgrading to Python3.5 or not?
> Which is the latest Python3 LTS version and its EOL support?
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Re: Web based IDE for django

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I think you can get a lot of what you're looking for with PythonAnywhere's
support for Django--https://www.pythonanywhere.com/ . try the free version
and see if that moves you in the right direction?

ari

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> New in django so here is the question: Is there a web based IDE for django
> where the environments are set up and all we focus on the creating models,
> view and control? It seems most of my time is spend creating url, import
> this, import that, put middleware, 90% of the time is spend worrying about
> the framework that actually doing the work. Its 2016 and its still seems
> like going back in time with the framework where everything is very manual
> driven.
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Re: Advice on python version for new project

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If you're doing a CRM app, many advantages to using Python 3 and not having
to deal with 2's Unicode issues. Names do not respect a lack of Unicode,
and you want people to be able to cut and paste and/or import names as
people want to spell them.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

>   The django web site suggests that new projects use python3 unless
> required
> dependencies are not yet available for that version. I've no idea what
> python dependencies I'll need for this job.
>
>   What I want to do is convert an abandoned php application (last upgraded
> a
> decade ago) to django. The application is XRMS, an open source CRM (client
> relationship manangement tool in my case) that is perhaps the only one that
> supposedly supported postgresql via adodb. What I learned over the weekend
> is that I cannot even install it and cannot find the reason why it's not
> connecting to the db back end.
>
>   A posting on a forum thread from 2007 reported that postgres was not
> supported unless all extensions (none of which I need) are installed, and
> all those extensions are hard coded for mysql. I have source code, schema,
> and a very full set of docs; suprizingly complete.
>
>   I suppose there's no reason to not use python-2.7.5 installed here for
> this project, unless you advise me otherwise. I also need some advice and
> guidance on how to proceed on creating a django application from the php
> source files.
>
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Re: Regarding Learning Django with collaboration

[Ari Davidow]

If you are in the Boston area, there are two excellent places to
collaborate. First, the Boston Python meetup holds monthly "project nights"
where you are welcome to bring your project over to Microsoft's New England
Research center ("NERD") and work with volunteers who can answer questions,
help you over the hump. You can find out more at
http://www.meetup.com/bostonpython/ . The August project night is on Mon.,
Aug 10.

Second, there is also a Boston-area Django-specific meetup where you can
meet and network with like-minded folks: http://www.meetup.com/djangoboston/
. Next meeting is this coming Thursday, July 23, and features a talk/demo
on Vagrant and Django.

I would imagine any other large community (or college community) offers
similar f2f opportunities.

Enjoy,
ari

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Rohit kumar 
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> Hi People,
>
> Are there any people who are learning Python and even planning to
> learn Django and keen interested to form a group as such towards this
> learning curve
>
> I am interested to form a group where we interested folks, will start
> learning Python alongside Django by working on a concept to building a
> website probably which helps for more people. May be if someone comes
> up something we can group together share knowledge and build something
>
> I have a concept like this collaborative platform to form groups and
> share concepts and learn anything online by multiple sources joining
> one to another to help people learn various things; mostly technology.
> So kindly connect whoever if interested
>
> Regards
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> Rohit
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Re: ANN: Django website redesign launched

[Ari Davidow]

>On a related note, the larger font and increased spacing also means
>that the line length before wrapping is reduced. The maximum line
>length in a code block in the documentation is around 73 characters,
>compared to around 97 characters in the old style.

Since, at text sizes, the eye can track about 65 characters in a line, the
change is good, and welcome. About 20 years ago, having heard this claim
from typographers for many years, we tested on some web pages. We'd have
the volunteers read something that was set as wide as the screen, then at
other dimensions narrowing to about 40 characters. Sure enough, once the
lines were wider than 60-70 characters, on average, we'd ask people what
they thought about "X" and we'd as often as not get the response, "Oh, 'X'
isn't on this page."

Given indentation, this isn't always a python issue, but it is worth
bearing in mind.

ari

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Tom Evans  wrote:
>
> Good work, it looks a lot cleaner.
>
> However:
>
> In the documentation, the page title "Documentation" always used to
> link back to the index page for the current documentation version. Now
> it appears there is only a link in the "You are here" section of the
> sidebar?
>
> The cleaner look makes much less information visible on a page,
> particularly on small screens. For instance, on my laptop screen
> (1280x800), on part 4 of the tutorial in the documentation, the fold
> now is at the "{% if error_message %}" in the first code block, where
> as in the old style the entire code block and the subsequent paragraph
> is visible. Similarly, on the index page, the only part of the index
> visible above the fold is "First steps".
>
> On a related note, the larger font and increased spacing also means
> that the line length before wrapping is reduced. The maximum line
> length in a code block in the documentation is around 73 characters,
> compared to around 97 characters in the old style. Several lines in
> the code block in the new page wrap, whilst in the old style none did
> (I suspect the code blocks were originally written so that they would
> not need to wrap with the old style).
>
> I'm no style guru, but is the CSS styling of selected text necessary
> for the design to work? I found it surprising - my initial thought was
> "grrr, why can't I select any text", as the pastel blue is very washed
> out on my cheap work panel and I found it difficult to notice that any
> text is selected.
>
> FYI, I am comparing these pages:
>
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/intro/tutorial04/
>
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20140802064954/https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/intro/tutorial04/
>
> Apart from these minor things, looks really good!
>
> Cheers
>
> Tom
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Jannis Leidel  wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We're incredibly proud to share with you the new design of the Django
> website, the documentation and the issue tracker.
> >
> > This is a long time coming and we couldn't be happier to finally ship it
> :)
> >
> > As you can imagine, there will be bugs, so please bear with us and
> report issues to the issue tracker at
> https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com/issues
> >
> > More infos about the redesign and its history can be found in the blog
> post:
> >
> >
> https://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2014/dec/15/announcing-django-website-redesign/
> >
> > Happy coding, everyone!
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Re: Is django framework feasible for developing online LMS?

[Ari Davidow]

I am curious as to why you would write an LMS from scratch, rather than use
an existing framework--edX uses Django and that code is open-sourced and
available. Other open source possibilities, not relying on Django, include
Moodle and Sakai.

Creating a professional environment that supports the presentation of
materials to students, appropriately controls access, facilitates
discussion, and facilitates grading (not to mention supports creation,
editing, presentation of quizzes and other smaller learning elements) is
messy. You could easily end up putting a lot of your client's time and
money into re-inventing and re-discovering the already-extant.

May be worth looking at how existing OS LMS's work, reviewing the client's
needs from that perspective, looking at what would get you to an initial
release most easily and sustainably, and then deciding on platform.

ari

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> Hi everyone, I am new to Django web framework but familiar with python
> programming.
> I am planning to develop an online Learning Management system for a
> college(client).
> LMS covers online course and learning system.
> So, is it worth choosing django rather than other like Ruby on Rails or
> asp.net?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: Starting with Python 3 and Django 1.x?

[Ari Davidow]

If I stick to Python 2.7, I start off with a host of Unicode issues--not a
promising way to start a site that relies on Unicode, Middle Eastern
character sets, and bidi functionality. I hate the last-century, Python 2
ways of dealing with those. That makes no sense, barring something more
compelling than the statement, "stick to python 2.7".

ari


On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:09 AM, ngangsia akumbo  wrote:

> stick to python 2.7
>
> collins anderson can i meet u on skype? mine is
>
> skype:  ngangsi.richard
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 8, 2014 11:53:30 PM UTC+1, Collin Anderson wrote:
>>
>> I'd start with 1.7 as it should be more friendly to newcomers. There will
>> be another release candidate soon and the final version should be out in
>> about a month.
>>
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Re: Starting with Python 3 and Django 1.x?

[Ari Davidow]

Belay the part of the post that asks about Python 2 vs Python 3 tutorial.
Had not yet found https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/intro/tutorial01/
which is the same tutorial, but written for Python 2.

Still curious about learning 1.6 and transferring to 1.7, or jumping into
the water now and saving some migration in six months or a year.

ari


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Ari Davidow <aridavi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am new to Django, and relatively new to (well, re-learning) python.
>
> I am working on a website that requires a lot of bidirectional type.
> Sanity suggests that starting this off with Python 3 and all the built in
> Unicode sanity makes sense.
>
> The online tutorials assume Python 2. Are there equivalent tutorials for
> Python 3, and/or some explanation of where to pay attention to things that
> will be different in the context of what I'll encounter learning Django?
>
> Normally, I would use the existing production version of something--Django
> 1.6 in this case. Is there any reason to include the release candidate of
> 1.7 as part of my juggling learning and creating this site?
>
> Thanks,
> ari
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Starting with Python 3 and Django 1.x?

[Ari Davidow]

I am new to Django, and relatively new to (well, re-learning) python.

I am working on a website that requires a lot of bidirectional type. Sanity
suggests that starting this off with Python 3 and all the built in Unicode
sanity makes sense.

The online tutorials assume Python 2. Are there equivalent tutorials for
Python 3, and/or some explanation of where to pay attention to things that
will be different in the context of what I'll encounter learning Django?

Normally, I would use the existing production version of something--Django
1.6 in this case. Is there any reason to include the release candidate of
1.7 as part of my juggling learning and creating this site?

Thanks,
ari

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Best practice - evolving from one to several sites using Django

[Ari Davidow]

Hi,

I am new to this group and new to Django. I have several websites that I 
want to drag into the current century. Initially I planned to do this with 
Drupal and know that it is relatively simple to add configuration 
information, modules, themes, for new sites using one Drupal installation.

What would be best practice for doing this in Django, knowing that I need 
to start off with the simplest site and then add additional domains as I 
have time and get more facile? My goal is to keep theming, most tables, 
etc., separate, but to have one django codebase to patch and to keep 
current.

Some areas of overlap: possible blog entries, a calendar of events, 
different views into a database of people involved in overlapping 
communities.

I see the terms "multisite" and "multi-tenant" used, but am not sure what 
each of these means in the context of django.

Many thanks,
Ari

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