Re: [Announcing] News about Geraldo Reports

2010-01-27 Thread Nick Lo
Hi Marinho,

> I have good news :)
> 
> I've done today the new website of Geraldo Reports [1].

I hate to be one to say this as it looks like you've put a lot of work in, but 
I much, much, much preferred the look of your old site. Mainly for one reason: 
It was very easy to send clients to (I did) and know they'd be impressed and 
immediately get an idea of what Geraldo does. This was largely due to the large 
images of reports you used to have. I now would not send a client to it as 
they'd be completely confused. Also it needs some work on the wording for 
example:

"Why should I know it?
Reports are the eyes of business - specially for the chairmans - and theweb is 
the obvious desination for all corporate softwares, like ERPs, CRMs, etc. The 
cloud is here and there, so, make sense you should know a good reporting engine 
to make your reports on the web, and on the cloud."

The above has typos, needs some grammar changes as well as the overall wording 
and message made clearer.

> Geraldo is a tool to make business reports easy, that not necessarily
> will be PDF files. For a while it just supports PDF and TXT (for file
> and matrix printers), but in the future it will supports HTML, ODF,
> DOC, XLS, and whatever. It uses the power of ReportLab to make PDF
> files and uses also some things from its library.
> 
> Geraldo doesn't competes with ReportLab, it is just more like Jasper
> or Crystal Reports, ok?

You missed out a biggie: It makes them more easily too (depending on your needs 
of course).

> The new website is more like a redesign of the old one, but we want to
> have cook book, code snippets and report templates repositories as
> soon as possible.
> 
> We are near to announce the release 0.4 (maybe in 1 or 2 weeks), with
> the main features:
> 
> - Caching
> - Additional fonts
> - Events system
> - "Native" charts (using ReportLab functions instead of third part libraries)
> - Cross reference tables
> - Bar codes
> - bugs fixes

These are great new features to the site and to the engine.

Thanks very much for all your time on this and I hope I don't come across as 
negative about the new site. For us developers it really doesn't matter too 
much as long as the site has the info we need BUT for us developers that want 
to impress clients or bosses it matters a LOT. I don't think the new site is 
appealing to clients or bosses and more to the point, I think it would just 
completely confuse them.

Cheers,

Nick


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[Announcing] News about Geraldo Reports

2010-01-26 Thread Marinho Brandao
Hello people,

I have good news :)

I've done today the new website of Geraldo Reports [1].

Geraldo is a tool to make business reports easy, that not necessarily
will be PDF files. For a while it just supports PDF and TXT (for file
and matrix printers), but in the future it will supports HTML, ODF,
DOC, XLS, and whatever. It uses the power of ReportLab to make PDF
files and uses also some things from its library.

Geraldo doesn't competes with ReportLab, it is just more like Jasper
or Crystal Reports, ok?

The new website is more like a redesign of the old one, but we want to
have cook book, code snippets and report templates repositories as
soon as possible.

We are near to announce the release 0.4 (maybe in 1 or 2 weeks), with
the main features:

- Caching
- Additional fonts
- Events system
- "Native" charts (using ReportLab functions instead of third part libraries)
- Cross reference tables
- Bar codes
- bugs fixes

Most of these features are already available [2] on the git/svn
repositories [3] and [4] and I'm using them on some projects.

Another important information: I recently knew about a project named
"django-reporting" [5], that makes summaries on the Admin (with no
printing). It is a good tool but a customer mine would like print
those summaries to PDF, so, I made some improvements on it to do it
(and sent a patch). I'm trying to make contact the author to make this
easier.

The problem: Geraldo already had in their repositories a Django app to
integrate Geraldo with Django's Admin.

Solution: I probably will change the name of Geraldo's "reporting", do
some newness I have on my machine, etc.

But, to avoid confusion: django-reporting and Geraldo's "reporting"
are separated things and have different goals.

In the future, Geraldo will have the Reports Server, probably a
pluggable app or a Tornado service (I'm not sure about that), to serve
reports like a BI framework. It will get data from database connection
(with SQL instructions) or NoSQL accessing or, at least, receive data
as a webservice, and generate reports. The main goal is take easy the
integration with other languages and take easy for end users. The
ideas are in my mind, but will late a little.

That's all. Help is very very welcome, whatever you can do to help.

Best regards, speak soon :)

[1] http://www.geraldoreports.org/
[2] http://www.geraldoreports.org/docs/examples/index.html
[3] http://www.geraldoreports.org/docs/examples/index.html
[4] http://geraldo.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/geraldo/
[5] http://code.google.com/p/django-reporting/



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