Re: Django book mostly done?

2009-03-24 Thread brad



On Mar 23, 8:15 pm, Malcolm Tredinnick 
wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:08 -0700, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > More of a concern is that mod_python is still regarded as the most
> > robust production setup. I can't see that mod_wsgi is even mentioned
> > at all.
>
> Here's a wild thought from out of left field: have you thought of
> contacting the author of said book and mentioning it to him? Adrian (the
> author) doesn't read this group, so this approach isn't going to work.
>
> Malcolm

There's actually this cool commenting system for the Django Book's
website.
You could leave comments there (and in fact, this very comment has
already been posted)
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Re: Django book mostly done?

2009-03-23 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick

On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:08 -0700, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
[...]
> More of a concern is that mod_python is still regarded as the most
> robust production setup. I can't see that mod_wsgi is even mentioned
> at all.

Here's a wild thought from out of left field: have you thought of
contacting the author of said book and mentioning it to him? Adrian (the
author) doesn't read this group, so this approach isn't going to work.

Malcolm



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Re: Django book mostly done?

2009-03-23 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Graham Dumpleton <
graham.dumple...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Mar 18, 6:20 pm, Gour  wrote:
> > > "Alex" == Alex Gaynor  writes:
> >
> > Alex> Adrian just put the last batch of chapters online, so I believe
> > Alex> all the content is now up.  Having skimmed most of it I can say it
> > Alex> looks really good and I'm sure it basically all works, that said
> > Alex> it isn't a final addition so there may be tiny errors, typos, or
> > Alex> other mistakes.
> >
> > It's nice to see all the chapters online...although I'm bit disappointed
> > to see that ch.12 still does not mention nginx server at all :-(
>
> More of a concern is that mod_python is still regarded as the most
> robust production setup. I can't see that mod_wsgi is even mentioned
> at all.
>
> Given all the problems that exist with mod_python am just surprised it
> is still pushed as the best option at this point.
>
> Graham
>
>
>
> >
>
Well that's an issue for the authors, I've filed a ticket in Django's trac
to have mod_wsgi docs added: http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/9970 .
Feel free to give it a look over(consideirng you're the expert here).

Alex

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Re: Django book mostly done?

2009-03-23 Thread Graham Dumpleton



On Mar 18, 6:20 pm, Gour  wrote:
> > "Alex" == Alex Gaynor  writes:
>
> Alex> Adrian just put the last batch of chapters online, so I believe
> Alex> all the content is now up.  Having skimmed most of it I can say it
> Alex> looks really good and I'm sure it basically all works, that said
> Alex> it isn't a final addition so there may be tiny errors, typos, or
> Alex> other mistakes.  
>
> It's nice to see all the chapters online...although I'm bit disappointed
> to see that ch.12 still does not mention nginx server at all :-(

More of a concern is that mod_python is still regarded as the most
robust production setup. I can't see that mod_wsgi is even mentioned
at all.

Given all the problems that exist with mod_python am just surprised it
is still pushed as the best option at this point.

Graham



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Re: Django book mostly done?

2009-03-23 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Scot Hacker  wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Alex Gaynor wrote:
>
> > Adrian just put the last batch of chapters online, so I believe all
> > the content is now up.  Having skimmed most of it I can say it looks
> > really good and I'm sure it basically all works, that said it isn't
> > a final addition so there may be tiny errors, typos, or other
> > mistakes.  I wouldn't have a problem reading through that(I
> > originally learned from the original book before it was published).
> > If you haven't already I would take a look at the official django
> > docs/tutorial, they really are quite good :).
>
>
> Considering what an important learning resource the Django Book is,
> you'd think it would get some linkage from djangoproject.com  -- the
> string "book" doesn't appear on the homepage or any of the six top-
> level pages, or even in the Django FAQ index!
>
> ./s
>
>
>
> >
>
Though Adrian and Jacob are to BDFLs of Django, the DjangoBook is not an
official resource and is a private enterprise by them.  Thus using
djangoproject.com to advertise it might be seen as unethical.

Alex

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Re: Django book mostly done?

2009-03-23 Thread Scot Hacker


On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Alex Gaynor wrote:

> Adrian just put the last batch of chapters online, so I believe all  
> the content is now up.  Having skimmed most of it I can say it looks  
> really good and I'm sure it basically all works, that said it isn't  
> a final addition so there may be tiny errors, typos, or other  
> mistakes.  I wouldn't have a problem reading through that(I  
> originally learned from the original book before it was published).   
> If you haven't already I would take a look at the official django  
> docs/tutorial, they really are quite good :).


Considering what an important learning resource the Django Book is,  
you'd think it would get some linkage from djangoproject.com  -- the  
string "book" doesn't appear on the homepage or any of the six top- 
level pages, or even in the Django FAQ index!

./s



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Re: Django book mostly done?

2009-03-18 Thread Gour
> "Alex" == Alex Gaynor  writes:

Alex> Adrian just put the last batch of chapters online, so I believe
Alex> all the content is now up.  Having skimmed most of it I can say it
Alex> looks really good and I'm sure it basically all works, that said
Alex> it isn't a final addition so there may be tiny errors, typos, or
Alex> other mistakes.  

It's nice to see all the chapters online...although I'm bit disappointed
to see that ch.12 still does not mention nginx server at all :-(


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: Django book mostly done?

2009-03-17 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:47 PM, waltbrad  wrote:

>
> I happened to visit the Django Book site 2.0   It still says that it's
> not complete, but it seems to cover everything the 1.0 did except for
> deployment and the Appendices.  Could a person get a pretty good
> grounding in django now by reading 2.0?  I guess what I mean is that
> for the past few months it's been suggested to go through the tutorial
> and the documentation rather than the django book.  But, is the 2.0
> book a good starting place now?
>
> Can't really say I'm a noob at this point, I've been through about 4
> different books on django. But, I still feel as though I don't have as
> thorough an overview as I'd like to have.
> >
>
Adrian just put the last batch of chapters online, so I believe all the
content is now up.  Having skimmed most of it I can say it looks really good
and I'm sure it basically all works, that said it isn't a final addition so
there may be tiny errors, typos, or other mistakes.  I wouldn't have a
problem reading through that(I originally learned from the original book
before it was published).  If you haven't already I would take a look at the
official django docs/tutorial, they really are quite good :).

Alex

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Django book mostly done?

2009-03-17 Thread waltbrad

I happened to visit the Django Book site 2.0   It still says that it's
not complete, but it seems to cover everything the 1.0 did except for
deployment and the Appendices.  Could a person get a pretty good
grounding in django now by reading 2.0?  I guess what I mean is that
for the past few months it's been suggested to go through the tutorial
and the documentation rather than the django book.  But, is the 2.0
book a good starting place now?

Can't really say I'm a noob at this point, I've been through about 4
different books on django. But, I still feel as though I don't have as
thorough an overview as I'd like to have.
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