Re: Just a note: django web app in django-non-friendly hosting environment

2008-09-20 Thread Brian Neal

On Sep 19, 3:04 pm, "n00m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> @Brian Neal
>
> But I think that all your points are not specific to
> django per se. Sorta this.

Huh? They were just as specific to django as yours were.

> +
> Does not "my note" make a question like:
> "Where can I see a list of Django-friendly hosts?"
> pretty meaningless?

No, I was pointing out there may be other issues beyond the ones you
encountered.
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Re: Just a note: django web app in django-non-friendly hosting environment

2008-09-19 Thread n00m

@Brian Neal

But I think that all your points are not specific to
django per se. Sorta this.
+
Does not "my note" make a question like:
"Where can I see a list of Django-friendly hosts?"
pretty meaningless?

PS
Btw the syntax "SetHandler mod_python" instead of
usual but outdated "SetHandler python-program .py"
is a recommendation of mod_python.org itself.



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Re: Just a note: django web app in django-non-friendly hosting environment

2008-09-19 Thread Brian Neal



On Sep 19, 1:40 pm, "n00m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need no at all to ask the hoster to install Django
> on his machine.
> Apache (etc) + installed mod_python is quite enough to
> get your django app running.
>
> The django package (and e.g. PIL) can be copied to there
> along with your django web dirs, as if it's a part of your
> web site/app.
>
> Example:
>
> htdocs/
>     my_dirs/
>         django/
>             ...
>         my_django_app/
>             ...
>             settings.py
>             urls.py
>         PIL/
>             ...
>         ...
>
> LoadModule python_module modules/mod_python.so
> 
>     SetHandler mod_python
>     PythonPath "['htdocs/my_dirs'] + sys.path"
>     PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython
>     SetEnv DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE my_django_app.settings
>     PythonDebug On
> 

That's great that you got it working, but that isn't always the case.
Some hosts will not allow you to edit/have your own .htaccess files or
edit the main httpd.conf file. In addition, I found that I needed a
PYTHON_EGG_CACHE, a directory where apache could write to to extract
eggs. Some hosts aren't going to let you have shell access to chmod a
directory to allow this. Yes it can be done but you may have to work
with your host or purchase your own dedicated hosting.
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Just a note: django web app in django-non-friendly hosting environment

2008-09-19 Thread n00m


You need no at all to ask the hoster to install Django
on his machine.
Apache (etc) + installed mod_python is quite enough to
get your django app running.

The django package (and e.g. PIL) can be copied to there
along with your django web dirs, as if it's a part of your
web site/app.

Example:

htdocs/
my_dirs/
django/
...
my_django_app/
...
settings.py
urls.py
PIL/
...
...


LoadModule python_module modules/mod_python.so

SetHandler mod_python
PythonPath "['htdocs/my_dirs'] + sys.path"
PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython
SetEnv DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE my_django_app.settings
PythonDebug On





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