Re: Necessary to learn React/ Angular with backend Django

[Balaji Shetty]

Hello Dear Community

Thank you very much for your nice reply. Definitely your guidance will help
me a lot.



On Wednesday, January 8, 2020, Integr@te System 
wrote:

> Hi Shetty,
>
> You also consider your project serve local users, so unnecessary implement
> high interactive pages from internet clients.
>
> From online docs, you can learn any technique via small best practices and
> apply to your case with basic javascript knowledges or look at python libs,
> and then expand features as business change.
>
> Dont forget systems behide when business move beyond, at least data.
> Nice.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 01:38 Karan Mittal 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello friend,
>> In my opinion if it is working with current implementation you need not
>> add any react or angular.
>> Learning perspective they are good but implementation of the same in your
>> already working project may raise new errors.
>> That's my opinion, feel free to incorporate them once you have learned
>> and get the response to do so by your users.
>> Regards,
>> Karan Mittal
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Jan, 2020, 11:17 PM Balaji Shetty, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Currently i deployed application on pythonanywhere. It is online office
>>> file management system with around 100 users under 10 different department
>>> in hierarchical manner.
>>>
>>> User and department may increase in future.
>>>
>>> Entire application is developed in Django back end.
>>>
>>> Used bootstrap for custom report generation.
>>>
>>> question arises in My mind is
>>>
>>> Is it Necessary to learn and implement in React/ Angular for front end.
>>>
>>>
>>> Because I am comfortable with current implementation.
>>>
>>>
>>> May I know what are gains i may get or what are the disadvantage i may
>>> suffer in future.
>>>
>>> Kindly guide me to avoid future inconvenience.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mr Shetty Balaji
>>> Asst. Prof.
>>> IT Department
>>> SGGS I&T
>>> Nanded. My. India
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Re: Necessary to learn React/ Angular with backend Django

[Integr@te System]

Hi Shetty,

You also consider your project serve local users, so unnecessary implement
high interactive pages from internet clients.

>From online docs, you can learn any technique via small best practices and
apply to your case with basic javascript knowledges or look at python libs,
and then expand features as business change.

Dont forget systems behide when business move beyond, at least data.
Nice.



On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 01:38 Karan Mittal  wrote:

> Hello friend,
> In my opinion if it is working with current implementation you need not
> add any react or angular.
> Learning perspective they are good but implementation of the same in your
> already working project may raise new errors.
> That's my opinion, feel free to incorporate them once you have learned and
> get the response to do so by your users.
> Regards,
> Karan Mittal
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan, 2020, 11:17 PM Balaji Shetty, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Currently i deployed application on pythonanywhere. It is online office
>> file management system with around 100 users under 10 different department
>> in hierarchical manner.
>>
>> User and department may increase in future.
>>
>> Entire application is developed in Django back end.
>>
>> Used bootstrap for custom report generation.
>>
>> question arises in My mind is
>>
>> Is it Necessary to learn and implement in React/ Angular for front end.
>>
>>
>> Because I am comfortable with current implementation.
>>
>>
>> May I know what are gains i may get or what are the disadvantage i may
>> suffer in future.
>>
>> Kindly guide me to avoid future inconvenience.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mr Shetty Balaji
>> Asst. Prof.
>> IT Department
>> SGGS I&T
>> Nanded. My. India
>>
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Re: Necessary to learn React/ Angular with backend Django

[sagar ninave]

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 3:01 AM Ronit Mishra 
wrote:

> Hi Balaji,
>
> Here are a few things for you to take note down based on my experience.
>
> The simplest architecture is the best architecture.
>
> Be it *Apache *or *Nginx*, you're using *Django*'s wsgi services and
> using *Bootstrap *for designing your layout. Probably with some storage
> solution, either a database or remote servers/cloud, if you're storing file
> physically.
>
> Things to observe: *Django *is the core of your stack. Its NOT just
> backend but serves as your frontend as well (although for small scripting
> uses, *HTML5*, *CSS/SCSS*, *JavaScript *is also used alongside *Django*)
> You're using *Bootstrap *just for material designing.
>
>
> Decoupling the services
>
> There is a different framework named "*Django Rest Framework*", which
> works in the backend capacity to create *API*'s for your application.
> In that case you'd preferably use something else for the frontend, like
> *React*, *Angular *or *Vue*. They are nothing but frontend frameworks
> based on JavaScript.
>
> *Please note that, you could still use Bootstrap to design the materials,
> while using React, Angular or Vue as your frontend framework.*
>
>
> The main idea behind destructuring the solution in 2-tier; an api builder
> and a client end, is to decouple the two services. These two services
> operating independently, can communicate with each other and establish
> *Separation* *of C**oncerns (SoC) *architecture. Core logic or business
> function resides in the backend and stored away from the frontend code.The
> frontend, focuses only on the visual aspects and utilizes api endpoints to
> display the data.
>
>
> Using frontend framework is not mandatory.
>
> You're already achieving the desired result from your architecture, which
> uses *Django* with plain old *JavaScript*. However, learning these
> frameworks, will save you a lot of time while development, testing or
> deployment your code.
>
>
> More importantly..
>
> If you're a web developer, I would strongly suggest you to go ahead and
> pick one framework and start your journey. But if you're *NOT *a web
> developer, and this happens to be an automation/service/solution in
> addition to your main application, then you should skip these frameworks.
> Probably work on making the architecture more resilient and fault tolerant.
>
> Also *PythonAnywhere *is not an industrial solution, so you might want to
> consider *Heroku or* *DigitalOcean *or any other enterprise cloud
> solution.
>
> All the best,
> Ronnie
>


*Hey Ronnie *


*i appreciate this detailed answer, balaji will get full about development*

sagar ninave
about.me/sagarninave


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Re: Necessary to learn React/ Angular with backend Django

[Ronit Mishra]

Hi Balaji,

Here are a few things for you to take note down based on my experience.

The simplest architecture is the best architecture.

Be it *Apache *or *Nginx*, you're using *Django*'s wsgi services and
using *Bootstrap
*for designing your layout. Probably with some storage solution, either a
database or remote servers/cloud, if you're storing file physically.

Things to observe: *Django *is the core of your stack. Its NOT just backend
but serves as your frontend as well (although for small scripting uses,
*HTML5*, *CSS/SCSS*, *JavaScript *is also used alongside *Django*) You're
using *Bootstrap *just for material designing.


Decoupling the services

There is a different framework named "*Django Rest Framework*", which works
in the backend capacity to create *API*'s for your application.
In that case you'd preferably use something else for the frontend, like
*React*, *Angular *or *Vue*. They are nothing but frontend frameworks based
on JavaScript.

*Please note that, you could still use Bootstrap to design the materials,
while using React, Angular or Vue as your frontend framework.*


The main idea behind destructuring the solution in 2-tier; an api builder
and a client end, is to decouple the two services. These two services
operating independently, can communicate with each other and establish
*Separation* *of C**oncerns (SoC) *architecture. Core logic or business
function resides in the backend and stored away from the frontend code.The
frontend, focuses only on the visual aspects and utilizes api endpoints to
display the data.


Using frontend framework is not mandatory.

You're already achieving the desired result from your architecture, which
uses *Django* with plain old *JavaScript*. However, learning these
frameworks, will save you a lot of time while development, testing or
deployment your code.


More importantly..

If you're a web developer, I would strongly suggest you to go ahead and
pick one framework and start your journey. But if you're *NOT *a web
developer, and this happens to be an automation/service/solution in
addition to your main application, then you should skip these frameworks.
Probably work on making the architecture more resilient and fault tolerant.

Also *PythonAnywhere *is not an industrial solution, so you might want to
consider *Heroku or* *DigitalOcean *or any other enterprise cloud solution.

All the best,
Ronnie




On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:08 AM Karan Mittal 
wrote:

> Hello friend,
> In my opinion if it is working with current implementation you need not
> add any react or angular.
> Learning perspective they are good but implementation of the same in your
> already working project may raise new errors.
> That's my opinion, feel free to incorporate them once you have learned and
> get the response to do so by your users.
> Regards,
> Karan Mittal
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan, 2020, 11:17 PM Balaji Shetty, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Currently i deployed application on pythonanywhere. It is online office
>> file management system with around 100 users under 10 different department
>> in hierarchical manner.
>>
>> User and department may increase in future.
>>
>> Entire application is developed in Django back end.
>>
>> Used bootstrap for custom report generation.
>>
>> question arises in My mind is
>>
>> Is it Necessary to learn and implement in React/ Angular for front end.
>>
>>
>> Because I am comfortable with current implementation.
>>
>>
>> May I know what are gains i may get or what are the disadvantage i may
>> suffer in future.
>>
>> Kindly guide me to avoid future inconvenience.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mr Shetty Balaji
>> Asst. Prof.
>> IT Department
>> SGGS I&T
>> Nanded. My. India
>>
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Re: Necessary to learn React/ Angular with backend Django

[S D]

Hi Balaji,

You can convert your web app into a PWA to gain maximum benefit. Just look
it up.

Data shows that PWAs are the way to go.



Kind regards,
- SD

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 19:47 Balaji Shetty  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Currently i deployed application on pythonanywhere. It is online office
> file management system with around 100 users under 10 different department
> in hierarchical manner.
>
> User and department may increase in future.
>
> Entire application is developed in Django back end.
>
> Used bootstrap for custom report generation.
>
> question arises in My mind is
>
> Is it Necessary to learn and implement in React/ Angular for front end.
>
>
> Because I am comfortable with current implementation.
>
>
> May I know what are gains i may get or what are the disadvantage i may
> suffer in future.
>
> Kindly guide me to avoid future inconvenience.
>
>
> --
> Mr Shetty Balaji
> Asst. Prof.
> IT Department
> SGGS I&T
> Nanded. My. India
>
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Re: Necessary to learn React/ Angular with backend Django

[Gil Obradors]

My opinion,

If you want a great powerful user interface ( and experience) of the front
end, yes, interesting to spend hours.
If the users won't appreciate it, no.


Other voice...


Good luck!


Missatge de Karan Mittal  del dia dt., 7 de
gen. 2020 a les 19:38:

> Hello friend,
> In my opinion if it is working with current implementation you need not
> add any react or angular.
> Learning perspective they are good but implementation of the same in your
> already working project may raise new errors.
> That's my opinion, feel free to incorporate them once you have learned and
> get the response to do so by your users.
> Regards,
> Karan Mittal
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan, 2020, 11:17 PM Balaji Shetty, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Currently i deployed application on pythonanywhere. It is online office
>> file management system with around 100 users under 10 different department
>> in hierarchical manner.
>>
>> User and department may increase in future.
>>
>> Entire application is developed in Django back end.
>>
>> Used bootstrap for custom report generation.
>>
>> question arises in My mind is
>>
>> Is it Necessary to learn and implement in React/ Angular for front end.
>>
>>
>> Because I am comfortable with current implementation.
>>
>>
>> May I know what are gains i may get or what are the disadvantage i may
>> suffer in future.
>>
>> Kindly guide me to avoid future inconvenience.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mr Shetty Balaji
>> Asst. Prof.
>> IT Department
>> SGGS I&T
>> Nanded. My. India
>>
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Re: Necessary to learn React/ Angular with backend Django

[Karan Mittal]

Hello friend,
In my opinion if it is working with current implementation you need not add
any react or angular.
Learning perspective they are good but implementation of the same in your
already working project may raise new errors.
That's my opinion, feel free to incorporate them once you have learned and
get the response to do so by your users.
Regards,
Karan Mittal

On Tue, 7 Jan, 2020, 11:17 PM Balaji Shetty,  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Currently i deployed application on pythonanywhere. It is online office
> file management system with around 100 users under 10 different department
> in hierarchical manner.
>
> User and department may increase in future.
>
> Entire application is developed in Django back end.
>
> Used bootstrap for custom report generation.
>
> question arises in My mind is
>
> Is it Necessary to learn and implement in React/ Angular for front end.
>
>
> Because I am comfortable with current implementation.
>
>
> May I know what are gains i may get or what are the disadvantage i may
> suffer in future.
>
> Kindly guide me to avoid future inconvenience.
>
>
> --
> Mr Shetty Balaji
> Asst. Prof.
> IT Department
> SGGS I&T
> Nanded. My. India
>
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Necessary to learn React/ Angular with backend Django

[Balaji Shetty]

Hi

Currently i deployed application on pythonanywhere. It is online office
file management system with around 100 users under 10 different department
in hierarchical manner.

User and department may increase in future.

Entire application is developed in Django back end.

Used bootstrap for custom report generation.

question arises in My mind is

Is it Necessary to learn and implement in React/ Angular for front end.


Because I am comfortable with current implementation.


May I know what are gains i may get or what are the disadvantage i may
suffer in future.

Kindly guide me to avoid future inconvenience.


-- 
Mr Shetty Balaji
Asst. Prof.
IT Department
SGGS I&T
Nanded. My. India

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