Re: Best Django Deployment

[Aldian Fazrihady]

Google AppEngine fFex will handle everything for you, but for my
requirement, the price is too expensive, so I don't use it and I also don't
use any Google cloud product to host my Django app.
If your app code is not efficient, it means it will use more resources,
then the monthly bill of AppEngine Flex will also be higher.

Google AppEngine flex is using nginx.

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Re: Best Django Deployment

[onlinejudge95]

+1 on the question.
Mainly whether the Apache + modWSGI or Nginx is the better way to go.

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 7:41 AM Aldian Fazrihady  wrote:

> Google AppEngine fFex will handle everything for you, but for my
> requirement, the price is too expensive, so I don't use it and I also don't
> use any Google cloud product to host my Django app.
> If your app code is not efficient, it means it will use more resources,
> then the monthly bill of AppEngine Flex will also be higher.
>
> Google AppEngine flex is using nginx.
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM Motaz Hejaze  wrote:
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Re: Best Django Deployment

[Mike Dewhirst]

On 24/01/2020 3:14 pm, onlinejudge95 wrote:

+1 on the question.
Mainly whether the Apache + modWSGI or Nginx is the better way to go.


I use Apache + modWSGI because I'm familiar with it. I also run a 
Mezzanine site which uses Gunicorn + nginx and the setup wasn't difficult.


I don't think performance is an immediate issue for most sites so my 
advice is:


1.  go for what you are familiar with.

2. if unfamiliar with both and your setup is simple go for nginx because 
setup is simpler


3. if brilliant documentation is your thing and you have complex 
requirements go with Apache


4. if the last nanosecond of performance is your thing get an expert to 
tune up whichever one you choose because only experts can tell the 
difference.


Good luck

Mike



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Google AppEngine fFex will handle everything for you, but for my
requirement, the price is too expensive, so I don't use it and I
also don't use any Google cloud product to host my Django app.
If your app code is not efficient, it means it will use more
resources, then the monthly bill of AppEngine Flex will also be
higher.

Google AppEngine flex is using nginx.

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Re: Best Django Deployment

[Motaz Hejaze]

I found this comparison on a blog ..

Apache vs Nginx

https://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/nginx-vs-apache/

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Re: Best Django Deployment

[Nick Sarbicki]

I've used nginx+gunicorn/uwsgi, Apache+modwsgi, Google app engine flex,
Google app engine standard, heroku, kubernetes on various cloud platforms,
elastic beanstalk deployments and various others.

Realistically I don't think there is a "best" way. It all depends on your
environment, what you're working with and what you know.

If you're new to deploying Django I'd just follow the digital ocean guide
with nginx and gunicorn here:
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-16-04

It teaches you the basics of what you want to know.

In the end every style of deployment has its ups and downs so I'd just use
whatever works best for you. If you don't know what that is then try
whatever seems simplest (in my opinion that digital ocean guide) and feel
free to evolve and adapt from there.

One thing I would say though is to avoid app engine flex. It's just a
wrapper around Google compute engine for 6x the price. It promises
scalability but realistically the latency in bringing up new machines voids
that. Luckily the latest standard engine supports python 3 and Django and
is much faster so is ok to use (with a lot of work around connecting to
databases).

On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 08:06 Motaz Hejaze,  wrote:

> I found this comparison on a blog ..
>
> Apache vs Nginx
>
> https://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/nginx-vs-apache/
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Re: Best Django Deployment

[Motaz Hejaze]

Guys thank you all for all your answers ..

I think i'll go with Nginx rather than Apache , Apache seems to have more
options , but also seems old , complicated and heavy !

Now i want to consider which layer of integration with web server to use ,
i.e should i user Nginx/Gunicorn or Nginx/uwsgi ?? are there any
performance gain ?

What about running Django in an Asynchronous way , i mean using django with
Asgi rather than Usgi ?? any performance gain too ??

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 1:09 PM Nick Sarbicki 
wrote:

> I've used nginx+gunicorn/uwsgi, Apache+modwsgi, Google app engine flex,
> Google app engine standard, heroku, kubernetes on various cloud platforms,
> elastic beanstalk deployments and various others.
>
> Realistically I don't think there is a "best" way. It all depends on your
> environment, what you're working with and what you know.
>
> If you're new to deploying Django I'd just follow the digital ocean guide
> with nginx and gunicorn here:
> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-16-04
>
> It teaches you the basics of what you want to know.
>
> In the end every style of deployment has its ups and downs so I'd just use
> whatever works best for you. If you don't know what that is then try
> whatever seems simplest (in my opinion that digital ocean guide) and feel
> free to evolve and adapt from there.
>
> One thing I would say though is to avoid app engine flex. It's just a
> wrapper around Google compute engine for 6x the price. It promises
> scalability but realistically the latency in bringing up new machines voids
> that. Luckily the latest standard engine supports python 3 and Django and
> is much faster so is ok to use (with a lot of work around connecting to
> databases).
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 08:06 Motaz Hejaze,  wrote:
>
>> I found this comparison on a blog ..
>>
>> Apache vs Nginx
>>
>> https://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/nginx-vs-apache/
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Re: Best Django Deployment

[Nick Sarbicki]

As far as I'm aware the performance difference between gunicorn and uwsgi
is minimal. I prefer gunicorn but I have no real rationale for why.

For ASGI Vs WSGI, WSGI is the historical standard most things are built on
so is by far the easiest to start with. ASGI requires a fundamental change
in how you think about your web services and whilst Django does support
ASGI nowadays it is still only experimental support. As a starting point
I'd stick with WSGI, ASGI has some benefits but early on the learning
curves make WSGI the logical choice.


On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 11:41 Motaz Hejaze,  wrote:

> Guys thank you all for all your answers ..
>
> I think i'll go with Nginx rather than Apache , Apache seems to have more
> options , but also seems old , complicated and heavy !
>
> Now i want to consider which layer of integration with web server to use ,
> i.e should i user Nginx/Gunicorn or Nginx/uwsgi ?? are there any
> performance gain ?
>
> What about running Django in an Asynchronous way , i mean using django
> with Asgi rather than Usgi ?? any performance gain too ??
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 1:09 PM Nick Sarbicki 
> wrote:
>
>> I've used nginx+gunicorn/uwsgi, Apache+modwsgi, Google app engine flex,
>> Google app engine standard, heroku, kubernetes on various cloud platforms,
>> elastic beanstalk deployments and various others.
>>
>> Realistically I don't think there is a "best" way. It all depends on your
>> environment, what you're working with and what you know.
>>
>> If you're new to deploying Django I'd just follow the digital ocean guide
>> with nginx and gunicorn here:
>> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-16-04
>>
>> It teaches you the basics of what you want to know.
>>
>> In the end every style of deployment has its ups and downs so I'd just
>> use whatever works best for you. If you don't know what that is then try
>> whatever seems simplest (in my opinion that digital ocean guide) and feel
>> free to evolve and adapt from there.
>>
>> One thing I would say though is to avoid app engine flex. It's just a
>> wrapper around Google compute engine for 6x the price. It promises
>> scalability but realistically the latency in bringing up new machines voids
>> that. Luckily the latest standard engine supports python 3 and Django and
>> is much faster so is ok to use (with a lot of work around connecting to
>> databases).
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 08:06 Motaz Hejaze,  wrote:
>>
>>> I found this comparison on a blog ..
>>>
>>> Apache vs Nginx
>>>
>>> https://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/nginx-vs-apache/
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Re: Best Django Deployment

[Motaz Hejaze]

They talking about making django asynchronous nature by the version 3.3 ..
i can see that asynchronous model is high speed and performance like in
node.js
i don't know if that will be applicable to django


On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 4:08 PM Nick Sarbicki 
wrote:

> As far as I'm aware the performance difference between gunicorn and uwsgi
> is minimal. I prefer gunicorn but I have no real rationale for why.
>
> For ASGI Vs WSGI, WSGI is the historical standard most things are built on
> so is by far the easiest to start with. ASGI requires a fundamental change
> in how you think about your web services and whilst Django does support
> ASGI nowadays it is still only experimental support. As a starting point
> I'd stick with WSGI, ASGI has some benefits but early on the learning
> curves make WSGI the logical choice.
>
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 11:41 Motaz Hejaze,  wrote:
>
>> Guys thank you all for all your answers ..
>>
>> I think i'll go with Nginx rather than Apache , Apache seems to have more
>> options , but also seems old , complicated and heavy !
>>
>> Now i want to consider which layer of integration with web server to use
>> , i.e should i user Nginx/Gunicorn or Nginx/uwsgi ?? are there any
>> performance gain ?
>>
>> What about running Django in an Asynchronous way , i mean using django
>> with Asgi rather than Usgi ?? any performance gain too ??
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 1:09 PM Nick Sarbicki 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've used nginx+gunicorn/uwsgi, Apache+modwsgi, Google app engine flex,
>>> Google app engine standard, heroku, kubernetes on various cloud platforms,
>>> elastic beanstalk deployments and various others.
>>>
>>> Realistically I don't think there is a "best" way. It all depends on
>>> your environment, what you're working with and what you know.
>>>
>>> If you're new to deploying Django I'd just follow the digital ocean
>>> guide with nginx and gunicorn here:
>>> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-16-04
>>>
>>> It teaches you the basics of what you want to know.
>>>
>>> In the end every style of deployment has its ups and downs so I'd just
>>> use whatever works best for you. If you don't know what that is then try
>>> whatever seems simplest (in my opinion that digital ocean guide) and feel
>>> free to evolve and adapt from there.
>>>
>>> One thing I would say though is to avoid app engine flex. It's just a
>>> wrapper around Google compute engine for 6x the price. It promises
>>> scalability but realistically the latency in bringing up new machines voids
>>> that. Luckily the latest standard engine supports python 3 and Django and
>>> is much faster so is ok to use (with a lot of work around connecting to
>>> databases).
>>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 08:06 Motaz Hejaze,  wrote:
>>>
 I found this comparison on a blog ..

 Apache vs Nginx

 https://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/nginx-vs-apache/

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Re: Best Django Deployment

[Motaz Hejaze]

https://github.com/andrewgodwin/deps/blob/async/draft/0009-async.rst#the-orm

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 4:50 PM Motaz Hejaze  wrote:

> They talking about making django asynchronous nature by the version 3.3 ..
> i can see that asynchronous model is high speed and performance like in
> node.js
> i don't know if that will be applicable to django
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 4:08 PM Nick Sarbicki 
> wrote:
>
>> As far as I'm aware the performance difference between gunicorn and uwsgi
>> is minimal. I prefer gunicorn but I have no real rationale for why.
>>
>> For ASGI Vs WSGI, WSGI is the historical standard most things are built
>> on so is by far the easiest to start with. ASGI requires a fundamental
>> change in how you think about your web services and whilst Django does
>> support ASGI nowadays it is still only experimental support. As a starting
>> point I'd stick with WSGI, ASGI has some benefits but early on the learning
>> curves make WSGI the logical choice.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 11:41 Motaz Hejaze,  wrote:
>>
>>> Guys thank you all for all your answers ..
>>>
>>> I think i'll go with Nginx rather than Apache , Apache seems to have
>>> more options , but also seems old , complicated and heavy !
>>>
>>> Now i want to consider which layer of integration with web server to use
>>> , i.e should i user Nginx/Gunicorn or Nginx/uwsgi ?? are there any
>>> performance gain ?
>>>
>>> What about running Django in an Asynchronous way , i mean using django
>>> with Asgi rather than Usgi ?? any performance gain too ??
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 1:09 PM Nick Sarbicki 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've used nginx+gunicorn/uwsgi, Apache+modwsgi, Google app engine flex,
 Google app engine standard, heroku, kubernetes on various cloud platforms,
 elastic beanstalk deployments and various others.

 Realistically I don't think there is a "best" way. It all depends on
 your environment, what you're working with and what you know.

 If you're new to deploying Django I'd just follow the digital ocean
 guide with nginx and gunicorn here:
 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-django-with-postgres-nginx-and-gunicorn-on-ubuntu-16-04

 It teaches you the basics of what you want to know.

 In the end every style of deployment has its ups and downs so I'd just
 use whatever works best for you. If you don't know what that is then try
 whatever seems simplest (in my opinion that digital ocean guide) and feel
 free to evolve and adapt from there.

 One thing I would say though is to avoid app engine flex. It's just a
 wrapper around Google compute engine for 6x the price. It promises
 scalability but realistically the latency in bringing up new machines voids
 that. Luckily the latest standard engine supports python 3 and Django and
 is much faster so is ok to use (with a lot of work around connecting to
 databases).

 On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 08:06 Motaz Hejaze,  wrote:

> I found this comparison on a blog ..
>
> Apache vs Nginx
>
> https://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/nginx-vs-apache/
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Re: Best Django Deployment

[aakansha jain]

Can anyone tell me how to run the django development environment so that I
can contribute to Django.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:09 PM Motaz Hejaze  wrote:

> Hey Friends!
>
> I want to ask what is the best Django deployment stack to increase the
> request/per/second rate ??
>
> does Nginx have better performance than apache ?
>
> What about Gunicorn and other alternatives ?
>
> thank you very much
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Re: Best Django Deployment

[aakansha jain]

Can anyone tell me how to run the django development environment so that I 
can contribute to Django.

On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 10:08:53 PM UTC+5:30, Motaz Hejaze wrote:
>
> Hey Friends!
>
> I want to ask what is the best Django deployment stack to increase the 
> request/per/second rate ??
>
> does Nginx have better performance than apache ?
>
> What about Gunicorn and other alternatives ?
>
> thank you very much 
>

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Re: Best Django Deployment

[Motaz Hejaze]

make another thread for your question man , this is out of the topic of
this thread

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 8:40 PM aakansha jain 
wrote:

> Can anyone tell me how to run the django development environment so that I
> can contribute to Django.
>
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 10:08:53 PM UTC+5:30, Motaz Hejaze wrote:
>>
>> Hey Friends!
>>
>> I want to ask what is the best Django deployment stack to increase the
>> request/per/second rate ??
>>
>> does Nginx have better performance than apache ?
>>
>> What about Gunicorn and other alternatives ?
>>
>> thank you very much
>>
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