Re: Unhappy, reinventing
On 25/05/06, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 24, 2006, at 9:33 PM, Elver Loho wrote: > > > > > I used to code stuff with TurboGears, which started sucking rather > > fast. I still liked their templating engine, Kid. Sort of. I've also > > tried Zope 3's and Django's, a couple of homegrown ones, Interchange's > > as used on our big webstore and a bunch of others. As far as I'm > > concerned, they all have fundamental design flaws. > > > > > Elver, > The promise of being able to plug in different templating is one of > the things that drew my interest in Django, but Django's templates > started to grow on me. I'd say maybe give 'em a little time to learn > to live with Django's templates. Indeed, it's common to think that something looks 'ugly' or 'unclean' before getting used to it. > However, I saw a presentation by a fellow named Chris McDonough at > this year's Plone symposium on his templating system called meld3. > Although it doesn't look entirely prime-time, it's closer to the > patterns/ideas you described in your article. Cool ideas in there. > Take a look: > > http://www.plope.com/software/meld3 > > > > > --P > > -- > Paul Smith > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Unhappy, reinventing
On May 24, 2006, at 9:33 PM, Elver Loho wrote: > > I used to code stuff with TurboGears, which started sucking rather > fast. I still liked their templating engine, Kid. Sort of. I've also > tried Zope 3's and Django's, a couple of homegrown ones, Interchange's > as used on our big webstore and a bunch of others. As far as I'm > concerned, they all have fundamental design flaws. > Elver, The promise of being able to plug in different templating is one of the things that drew my interest in Django, but Django's templates started to grow on me. I'd say maybe give 'em a little time to learn to live with Django's templates. However, I saw a presentation by a fellow named Chris McDonough at this year's Plone symposium on his templating system called meld3. Although it doesn't look entirely prime-time, it's closer to the patterns/ideas you described in your article. Cool ideas in there. Take a look: http://www.plope.com/software/meld3 --P -- Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Unhappy, reinventing
Elver Loho wrote: > http://elver.cellosoft.com/2006/05/24/acceptable-use-of-programming-in-templates/ The XML in Python trick is somewhat similar to how Django's syndication (RSS/Atom) framework works, and it is great for such structured XML documents. On the other hand, HTML is a weird thing and not something that I'd want to build with the DOM approach. -- --Max Battcher-- http://www.worldmaker.net/ "I'm gonna win, trust in me / I have come to save this world / and in the end I'll get the grrrl!" --Machinae Supremacy, Hero (Promo Track) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Unhappy, reinventing
On 5/24/06, Elver Loho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also look at some alternatives there, including one that I'm really > excited about. I think it could be integrated on top of Django rather > easily, but I'm not sure if my Python-fu is up to the challenge. > > It's just my 2 cents, but, hell, I really really really dislike the > current choices. > > Oh and the comments are moderated due to spam. And I'm sleepy. So > it'll take some time for them to show up. Cheer up, Elver! Life's too short. :) Adrian -- Adrian Holovaty holovaty.com | djangoproject.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Unhappy, reinventing
I used to code stuff with TurboGears, which started sucking rather fast. I still liked their templating engine, Kid. Sort of. I've also tried Zope 3's and Django's, a couple of homegrown ones, Interchange's as used on our big webstore and a bunch of others. As far as I'm concerned, they all have fundamental design flaws. I've outlined my problems with current templating solutions here: http://elver.cellosoft.com/2006/05/24/acceptable-use-of-programming-in-templates/ I also look at some alternatives there, including one that I'm really excited about. I think it could be integrated on top of Django rather easily, but I'm not sure if my Python-fu is up to the challenge. It's just my 2 cents, but, hell, I really really really dislike the current choices. Oh and the comments are moderated due to spam. And I'm sleepy. So it'll take some time for them to show up. Elver --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
