Re: browser testing

2017-01-05 Thread Mike Dewhirst 

Antonis - that looks really good. Thanks for sharing ...

Mike

On 5/01/2017 7:20 PM, Antonis Christofides wrote:


Some time ago I was in a small team of programmers and I thought it 
was unreasonable for everyone to learn Selenium, so I created 
django-selenium-clean, a front-end, which is much easier and with 
documentation that includes tutorial and reference.


https://github.com/aptiko/django-selenium-clean/

Antonis Christofides
http://djangodeployment.com

On 01/05/2017 02:40 AM, Alex Heyden wrote:
Everyone who wants into that space compares themselves to Selenium, 
because Selenium is that good and has that much market share. It's 
obnoxious to use, excludes some less technical users, but behaves 
very predictably in skilled hands and has plenty of community support.


If I needed to include less technically inclined testers, I'd pursue 
Kantu from https://a9t9.com/. I don't have any direct experience with 
iMacros, but out in the wild, I see more people asking how to migrate 
their iMacros scripts to Selenium than the other way around. This 
could be because of the difference in relative difficulty between the 
two. Selenium has a learning curve that makes it better suited to 
professional testers than, say, random client representatives doing UAT.


On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Mike Dewhirst > wrote:


Does anyone have any recommendations for testing via the browser?

I have heard Selenium mentioned and saw a feature contrast
between Selenium and Imacro which indicated Imacro is the best
choice. Before I do the right thing and dig into it myself, are
there any war stories or testimonials out there?

The objective is to help users to automate their acceptance
testing and, like unit tests, keep adding new tests as new
features are delivered.

Thanks for any advice

Cheers

Mike

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Re: browser testing

2017-01-05 Thread Antonis Christofides 
Some time ago I was in a small team of programmers and I thought it was
unreasonable for everyone to learn Selenium, so I created django-selenium-clean,
a front-end, which is much easier and with documentation that includes tutorial
and reference.

https://github.com/aptiko/django-selenium-clean/

Antonis Christofides
http://djangodeployment.com


On 01/05/2017 02:40 AM, Alex Heyden wrote:
> Everyone who wants into that space compares themselves to Selenium, because
> Selenium is that good and has that much market share. It's obnoxious to use,
> excludes some less technical users, but behaves very predictably in skilled
> hands and has plenty of community support.
>
> If I needed to include less technically inclined testers, I'd pursue Kantu
> from https://a9t9.com/. I don't have any direct experience with iMacros, but
> out in the wild, I see more people asking how to migrate their iMacros scripts
> to Selenium than the other way around. This could be because of the difference
> in relative difficulty between the two. Selenium has a learning curve that
> makes it better suited to professional testers than, say, random client
> representatives doing UAT.
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Mike Dewhirst  > wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for testing via the browser?
>
> I have heard Selenium mentioned and saw a feature contrast between
> Selenium and Imacro which indicated Imacro is the best choice. Before I do
> the right thing and dig into it myself, are there any war stories or
> testimonials out there?
>
> The objective is to help users to automate their acceptance testing and,
> like unit tests, keep adding new tests as new features are delivered.
>
> Thanks for any advice
>
> Cheers
>
> Mike
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Re: browser testing

2017-01-04 Thread Mike Dewhirst 

Thanks Alex

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On 5/01/2017 11:40 AM, Alex Heyden wrote:
Everyone who wants into that space compares themselves to Selenium, 
because Selenium is that good and has that much market share. It's 
obnoxious to use, excludes some less technical users, but behaves very 
predictably in skilled hands and has plenty of community support.


If I needed to include less technically inclined testers, I'd pursue 
Kantu from https://a9t9.com/. I don't have any direct experience with 
iMacros, but out in the wild, I see more people asking how to migrate 
their iMacros scripts to Selenium than the other way around. This 
could be because of the difference in relative difficulty between the 
two. Selenium has a learning curve that makes it better suited to 
professional testers than, say, random client representatives doing UAT.


On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Mike Dewhirst > wrote:


Does anyone have any recommendations for testing via the browser?

I have heard Selenium mentioned and saw a feature contrast between
Selenium and Imacro which indicated Imacro is the best choice.
Before I do the right thing and dig into it myself, are there any
war stories or testimonials out there?

The objective is to help users to automate their acceptance
testing and, like unit tests, keep adding new tests as new
features are delivered.

Thanks for any advice

Cheers

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Re: browser testing

2017-01-04 Thread Alex Heyden 
Everyone who wants into that space compares themselves to Selenium, because
Selenium is that good and has that much market share. It's obnoxious to
use, excludes some less technical users, but behaves very predictably in
skilled hands and has plenty of community support.

If I needed to include less technically inclined testers, I'd pursue Kantu
from https://a9t9.com/. I don't have any direct experience with iMacros,
but out in the wild, I see more people asking how to migrate their iMacros
scripts to Selenium than the other way around. This could be because of the
difference in relative difficulty between the two. Selenium has a learning
curve that makes it better suited to professional testers than, say, random
client representatives doing UAT.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Mike Dewhirst  wrote:

> Does anyone have any recommendations for testing via the browser?
>
> I have heard Selenium mentioned and saw a feature contrast between
> Selenium and Imacro which indicated Imacro is the best choice. Before I do
> the right thing and dig into it myself, are there any war stories or
> testimonials out there?
>
> The objective is to help users to automate their acceptance testing and,
> like unit tests, keep adding new tests as new features are delivered.
>
> Thanks for any advice
>
> Cheers
>
> Mike
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browser testing

2017-01-04 Thread Mike Dewhirst 

Does anyone have any recommendations for testing via the browser?

I have heard Selenium mentioned and saw a feature contrast between 
Selenium and Imacro which indicated Imacro is the best choice. Before I 
do the right thing and dig into it myself, are there any war stories or 
testimonials out there?


The objective is to help users to automate their acceptance testing and, 
like unit tests, keep adding new tests as new features are delivered.


Thanks for any advice

Cheers

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Re: Browser Testing - Selenium or Windmill

2009-02-28 Thread Ryan Kelly 
> What's the best tool for doing automated browser testing with Django
> apps? I have some personal experience with Selenium (although not when
> testing Django), which seems fairly mature, and has a great Firefox
> extension, but has some serious problems dealing with frames and
> popups. I recently discovered Windmill, but haven't heard too much
> about it.

I don't know about "best", but I've had good experiences using Windmill.
It ships with a "WindmillDjangoUnitTest" class for easy integration with
the Django testrunner, and it's straightforward to 
write your testcases in Python using a style quite similar to the native
Django test client. Whether it handles frames and popups in the way you
want, I have no idea.

On the other hand, I think the docs and other community resources
available for Selenium are more comprehensive than for Windmill -
probably because the latter is a younger project.

In the end I went with Windmill because it seemed to fit my
development/thinking style better than Selenium - so of course your
mileage may vary.

  Cheers,

Ryan

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Browser Testing - Selenium or Windmill

2009-02-28 Thread Chris 

What's the best tool for doing automated browser testing with Django
apps? I have some personal experience with Selenium (although not when
testing Django), which seems fairly mature, and has a great Firefox
extension, but has some serious problems dealing with frames and
popups. I recently discovered Windmill, but haven't heard too much
about it.

Neither's officially supported by the Django testing framework,
although there seems to be some basic code available for each. Has
anyone found one tool easier to work with or incorporating into Django?
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