Re: define "_default_manager" and the admin-interface

2008-09-02 Thread Brett H

As far as I can see in principle you would want to leave the live
manager first as your default manager and then override it in your
admin class as the exception - something like this:

class EntryAdmin(admin.ModelAdmin):
...
manager = Entry.objects

But admin needs patching to make that work which is an open ticket
http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/7510.

At the moment you would need to override every method in
admin.ModelAdmin that gets the default manager, so it's easier at the
moment just to make the standard manager the default instead of your
custom manager.

I'm writing a blog on this book - but I am only just finishing up
chapter 5 which first defines the custom manager.
http://blog.haydon.id.au/2008/08/notes-on-practical-django-projects.html

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Re: define "_default_manager" and the admin-interface

2008-09-01 Thread Brot

is there anybody out there who could answer this question?

On 29 Aug., 07:59, Brot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> At the moment I am reading the "Practical Django Projects" - Book
> written by James Bennett.
> On page 120 there is a admonition about using Default Managers. Above
> this paragraph there is the explanation about the Default Manager und
> Entry.objects.all() and Entry.live.all().
>
> It seems clear to define the live-Manager first, so it's the Default
> Manager. But I noticed that the admin interface also uses this Default
> Manager.
> If I mark an Entry as HIDDEN or DRAFT I have no possibility to take it
> LIVE with the admin interface, because the live-Default Manager don't
> return this type of entries
>
> What do you think? What's good practice in relation to the Default
> Manager?
>
> ~ Bernd
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Re: define "_default_manager" and the admin-interface

2008-09-01 Thread Matthias Kestenholz

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Brot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> At the moment I am reading the "Practical Django Projects" - Book
> written by James Bennett.
> On page 120 there is a admonition about using Default Managers. Above
> this paragraph there is the explanation about the Default Manager und
> Entry.objects.all() and Entry.live.all().
>
> It seems clear to define the live-Manager first, so it's the Default
> Manager. But I noticed that the admin interface also uses this Default
> Manager.
> If I mark an Entry as HIDDEN or DRAFT I have no possibility to take it
> LIVE with the admin interface, because the live-Default Manager don't
> return this type of entries
>
> What do you think? What's good practice in relation to the Default
> Manager?

Good practice is "whatever works", maybe "whatever works best". Since
defining the live manager first does not work it is not good practice.

What is the problem about defining the objects manager first? (Btw, nobody
said the default manager has to be called "objects". You could also do
something like this if you want to use "objects":

class Whatever(models.Model):
   

   all_items = models.Manager()
   objects = LiveManager()




Matthias

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define "_default_manager" and the admin-interface

2008-08-28 Thread Brot

Hello,

At the moment I am reading the "Practical Django Projects" - Book
written by James Bennett.
On page 120 there is a admonition about using Default Managers. Above
this paragraph there is the explanation about the Default Manager und
Entry.objects.all() and Entry.live.all().

It seems clear to define the live-Manager first, so it's the Default
Manager. But I noticed that the admin interface also uses this Default
Manager.
If I mark an Entry as HIDDEN or DRAFT I have no possibility to take it
LIVE with the admin interface, because the live-Default Manager don't
return this type of entries

What do you think? What's good practice in relation to the Default
Manager?

~ Bernd
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