Re: django version for production?
On 6 Lut, 04:50, "Christian W. Koch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'm no django expert, yet, but i use trunk. now, for production > purposes i still use trunk because before i "svn up" on production i > make sure that the site runs on my development box on the latest > trunk. > > you do have a development environment, right? ;) In fact I have 3 environments: 1. developement (dev server at developer machines) 2. testing environment (available for customers etc. - identical to production environment) 3. production environment When I'm finished with some functionality (iteration), I make a tag in svn. Then, this tagged version is deployed at test environment. Customer checks it etc and if accepted it goes to production (using svn tag). If not accepted, then fixes are made and next version is commited into tags at svn. Then it goes into test environment again. My taged version contains .tar.gz with django used by this application version so it is easy to maintain. -- Maciej Wisniowski --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
exactly, that's what i meant. i usually skip a staging server, for cost reasons, and configure my dev box to run the same configuration as my production server. either way, keneth and jarek are right. the point is that trunk is as safe as you want it to be, or at least as pain-free as you want. On Feb 6, 3:46 am, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 06-Feb-08, at 2:08 PM, Jarek Zgoda wrote: > > >> you do have a development environment, right? ;) > > > I remember one issue just after autoescaping went into trunk, that was > > visible only on sites runnung on FastCGI, so development server/env > > sometimes clearly is not enough to catch everything. > > even if you do development using the development server, you should > have a staging server replicating your production environment - or > else do your development on a machine that replicates the production > environment. > > Further the staging server should be tested with data taken from the > production environment and not from test data. > > This is what is known as a development environment. > > -- > > regards > kghttp://lawgon.livejournal.comhttp://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ > Foss Conference for the common man:http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
On 06-Feb-08, at 2:08 PM, Jarek Zgoda wrote: >> you do have a development environment, right? ;) > > I remember one issue just after autoescaping went into trunk, that was > visible only on sites runnung on FastCGI, so development server/env > sometimes clearly is not enough to catch everything. even if you do development using the development server, you should have a staging server replicating your production environment - or else do your development on a machine that replicates the production environment. Further the staging server should be tested with data taken from the production environment and not from test data. This is what is known as a development environment. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss Conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
Christian W. Koch napisał(a): > i'm no django expert, yet, but i use trunk. now, for production > purposes i still use trunk because before i "svn up" on production i > make sure that the site runs on my development box on the latest > trunk. > > you do have a development environment, right? ;) I remember one issue just after autoescaping went into trunk, that was visible only on sites runnung on FastCGI, so development server/env sometimes clearly is not enough to catch everything. -- Jarek Zgoda Skype: jzgoda | GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | voice: +48228430101 "We read Knuth so you don't have to." (Tim Peters) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
i'm no django expert, yet, but i use trunk. now, for production purposes i still use trunk because before i "svn up" on production i make sure that the site runs on my development box on the latest trunk. you do have a development environment, right? ;) On Feb 5, 6:57 am, Aljosa Mohorovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > please post your opinions on using 0.96 or trunk version in production > environment. > which would you choose and why? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
On 05-Feb-08, at 7:15 PM, Jarek Zgoda wrote: > some day it would not be feasible to port any application to "1.0". I > know personally many people still having their apps running on 0.91 > because of too large amount of work needed to port to any later > version. I have 5 old sites running on .91 - too much work to do the MR, let alone the rest. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss Conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
On 5 Feb, 14:45, Jarek Zgoda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If anyone can afford running on trunk (as I do with my personal > projects), then there's no reason to run on 0.96. I agree: I'm running a very recent version of newforms-admin branch in my *production* site with no problem at all. Please note that upgrading from an older version, despite all the operations are well documented, can be quite demanding (especially if you don't proceed step by step). Regards Massimiliano --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
Kenneth Gonsalves napisał(a): >>> please post your opinions on using 0.96 or trunk version in >>> production >>> environment. >>> which would you choose and why? >> I'm using svn version from newforms-admin branch with some additional >> patches. >> As Kenneth already said, svn version has a lot of usefull (and even >> necessary for me) goodies. > > oh, and I forgot to add - moving from trunk to 1.0 will be much less > painful than moving from .96 to 1.0 It would be much less painful if we got, say, 0.97 with unicode, 0.98 with something and so on. This was discussed many times here and I understand the case is closed (iow there would be no intermediary releases before 1.0). With every commit, the hole just widens and at some day it would not be feasible to port any application to "1.0". I know personally many people still having their apps running on 0.91 because of too large amount of work needed to port to any later version. If anyone can afford running on trunk (as I do with my personal projects), then there's no reason to run on 0.96. -- Jarek Zgoda Skype: jzgoda | GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | voice: +48228430101 "We read Knuth so you don't have to." (Tim Peters) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
On 05-Feb-08, at 6:58 PM, Pigletto wrote: >> please post your opinions on using 0.96 or trunk version in >> production >> environment. >> which would you choose and why? > I'm using svn version from newforms-admin branch with some additional > patches. > As Kenneth already said, svn version has a lot of usefull (and even > necessary for me) goodies. oh, and I forgot to add - moving from trunk to 1.0 will be much less painful than moving from .96 to 1.0 -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss Conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
On 5 Lut, 12:57, Aljosa Mohorovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > please post your opinions on using 0.96 or trunk version in production > environment. > which would you choose and why? I'm using svn version from newforms-admin branch with some additional patches. As Kenneth already said, svn version has a lot of usefull (and even necessary for me) goodies. -- Maciej Wisniowski --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
On 05-Feb-08, at 5:27 PM, Aljosa Mohorovic wrote: > please post your opinions on using 0.96 or trunk version in production > environment. > which would you choose and why? trunk - because it has a lot of goodies that .96 doesnt have - 96 is really old -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss Conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: django version for production?
Aljosa Mohorovic napisał(a): > please post your opinions on using 0.96 or trunk version in production > environment. > which would you choose and why? My company uses 0.96 and, save some quirks and not-really-usable newforms, it is acceptable. For my personal projects I use svn trunk. -- Jarek Zgoda Skype: jzgoda | GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | voice: +48228430101 "We read Knuth so you don't have to." (Tim Peters) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
django version for production?
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