Re: [dmarc-ietf] 4.1 DMARC Basics

2024-03-11 Thread Neil Anuskiewicz


> On Mar 3, 2024, at 1:41 AM, ves...@tana.it wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> the last two paragraphs of section 4.1 also show a neat asymmetry between rua 
> and ruf.  The first sounds like the notification that feedback exists rather 
> than something a mail receiver should do.  The second is good, but not 
> normative.
> 
> 
> OLD
>   DMARC's feedback component involves the collection of information
>   about received messages claiming to be from the Author Domain for
>   periodic aggregate reports to the Domain Owner or PSO.  The
>   parameters and format for such reports are discussed in
>   [I-D.ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting]
> 
>   A DMARC-enabled Mail Receiver might also generate per-message reports
>   that contain information related to individual messages that fail
>   authentication checks.  Per-message failure reports are a useful
>   source of information when debugging deployments (if messages can be
>   determined to be legitimate even though failing authentication) or in
>   analyzing attacks.  The capability for such services is enabled by
>   DMARC but defined in other referenced material such as [RFC6591] and
>   [I-D.ietf-dmarc-failure-reporting]
> 
> 
> NEW
>   A DMARC-enabled Mail Receiver SHOULD collect authentication results
>   and generate aggregate reports that contain information about
>   received messages claiming to be from the Author Domain for periodic
>   aggregate reports to the Domain Owner or PSO.  The parameters and
>   format for such reports are discussed in
>   [I-D.ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting]
> 
>   A DMARC-enabled Mail Receiver MAY also generate per-message reports
>   that contain information related to individual messages that fail
>   authentication checks.  Per-message failure reports are a useful
>   source of information when debugging deployments (if messages can be
>   determined to be legitimate even though failing authentication) or in
>   analyzing attacks.  The capability for such services is enabled by
>   DMARC but defined in other referenced material such as [RFC6591] and
>   [I-D.ietf-dmarc-failure-reporting]
> 
> How's that?
> 
> Best
> Ale
> 
Perfect. It makes it clear what’s critical, aggregate reports, and that you may 
provide at your own volition, leaving room for PII policies and the like.
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Re: [dmarc-ietf] 4.1 DMARC Basics

2024-03-05 Thread Todd Herr
On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 4:41 AM  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> the last two paragraphs of section 4.1 also show a neat asymmetry between
> rua and ruf.  The first sounds like the notification that feedback exists
> rather than something a mail receiver should do.  The second is good, but
> not normative.
>
>
> OLD
> DMARC's feedback component involves the collection of information
> about received messages claiming to be from the Author Domain for
> periodic aggregate reports to the Domain Owner or PSO.  The
> parameters and format for such reports are discussed in
> [I-D.ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting]
>
> A DMARC-enabled Mail Receiver might also generate per-message reports
> that contain information related to individual messages that fail
> authentication checks.  Per-message failure reports are a useful
> source of information when debugging deployments (if messages can be
> determined to be legitimate even though failing authentication) or in
> analyzing attacks.  The capability for such services is enabled by
> DMARC but defined in other referenced material such as [RFC6591] and
> [I-D.ietf-dmarc-failure-reporting]
>
>
> NEW
> A DMARC-enabled Mail Receiver SHOULD collect authentication results
> and generate aggregate reports that contain information about
> received messages claiming to be from the Author Domain for periodic
> aggregate reports to the Domain Owner or PSO.  The parameters and
> format for such reports are discussed in
> [I-D.ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting]
>
> A DMARC-enabled Mail Receiver MAY also generate per-message reports
> that contain information related to individual messages that fail
> authentication checks.  Per-message failure reports are a useful
> source of information when debugging deployments (if messages can be
> determined to be legitimate even though failing authentication) or in
> analyzing attacks.  The capability for such services is enabled by
> DMARC but defined in other referenced material such as [RFC6591] and
> [I-D.ietf-dmarc-failure-reporting]
>
>
Issue 127 open to track this. I think there's something here to work with.

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[dmarc-ietf] 4.1 DMARC Basics

2024-03-03 Thread vesely

Hi,

the last two paragraphs of section 4.1 also show a neat asymmetry between  
rua and ruf.  The first sounds like the notification that feedback exists  
rather than something a mail receiver should do.  The second is good, but  
not normative.



OLD
   DMARC's feedback component involves the collection of information
   about received messages claiming to be from the Author Domain for
   periodic aggregate reports to the Domain Owner or PSO.  The
   parameters and format for such reports are discussed in
   [I-D.ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting]

   A DMARC-enabled Mail Receiver might also generate per-message reports
   that contain information related to individual messages that fail
   authentication checks.  Per-message failure reports are a useful
   source of information when debugging deployments (if messages can be
   determined to be legitimate even though failing authentication) or in
   analyzing attacks.  The capability for such services is enabled by
   DMARC but defined in other referenced material such as [RFC6591] and
   [I-D.ietf-dmarc-failure-reporting]


NEW
   A DMARC-enabled Mail Receiver SHOULD collect authentication results
   and generate aggregate reports that contain information about
   received messages claiming to be from the Author Domain for periodic
   aggregate reports to the Domain Owner or PSO.  The parameters and
   format for such reports are discussed in
   [I-D.ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting]

   A DMARC-enabled Mail Receiver MAY also generate per-message reports
   that contain information related to individual messages that fail
   authentication checks.  Per-message failure reports are a useful
   source of information when debugging deployments (if messages can be
   determined to be legitimate even though failing authentication) or in
   analyzing attacks.  The capability for such services is enabled by
   DMARC but defined in other referenced material such as [RFC6591] and
   [I-D.ietf-dmarc-failure-reporting]

How's that?

Best
Ale
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