Re: [DNG] hplip need systemd
Quoting Go Linux (goli...@yahoo.com): > We seem to be in parallel universes. I have all that installed and > haven't been able to find the HP Device Manager. But let's not hijack > this topic further . . . Are you talking about the Qt-based hplip-gui stuff? I'm guessing you are. You should have access to the full capabilities of the entire set of print engine / printer filters _via CUPS_ -- after you've installed the printer-driver-hpcups and printer-driver-hpijs .debs . HP's separate hplip-gui aka 'HP Device Manager' (aka 'Toolbox') becomes at that point superfluous. The 'hpcups' package furnishes the basic CUPS raster driver (the logical way to print to many but not all HP inkjet and laster printers). The 'hpijs' package provides the HP InkJet Software (IJS API) support, the way to reach most HP inket printers and a few laser printers. http://hplipopensource.com/node/125 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] hplip need systemd
On Tue, 10/4/16, Rick Moen wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] hplip need systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 6:23 PM Quoting Go Linux (goli...@yahoo.com): >> Indeed, cups does print. But it doesn't have perks of the HP device >> manager that lets you clean/align and check the status of the >> cartridges etc. At least I haven't found that in cups. > > In case my meaning was somehow unclear: printer-driver-hpcups and > printer-driver-hpijs are the _parts_ of metapackage hplip that you > and M. Bardot need. > > I'm not saying 'install only CUPS'. I'm saying 'install only the > constituent parts of 'hplip' that you actually want. > We seem to be in parallel universes. I have all that installed and haven't been able to find the HP Device Manager. But let's not hijack this topic further . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] hplip need systemd
On 10/04/2016 04:24 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> On Tue, 10/4/16, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] hplip need systemd
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 2:51 PM
>
> Quoting Bardot J??r??me (bardot.jer...@gmail.com):
>>>
>>> I don't know if you know but hplip need policykit and therefore systemd.
>>>
>>
>> You don't need _package_ HPLIP. You just need printer-driver-hpcups and
>> printer-driver-hpijs. Package hplip is an omnibus desktop-oriented
>> packaging of the HPIJS and HPLIP drivers, and therefore includes
>> GNOME-dependency hooks.
>>
>
>
>
> Indeed, cups does print. But it doesn't have perks of the HP device manager
> that lets you clean/align and check the status of the cartridges etc. At
> least I haven't found that in cups. So I'm keeping my good ol' squeeze
> around that has hplip installed so I access those functions should I ever
> need them.
>
> Related tip . . . my black cartridge dried out a few months ago. I found a
> youtube video that offered several suggestions how to get it working again.
> I chose to soak the head in warm distilled water for a few hours. It
> worked!! And that cartridge is still functioning months later.
>
> golinux
>
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Devuan has an alternative policykit-1 that does not depend on systemd, and
hplip will install without pulling in any systemd components.
apt-cache policy policykit-1
policykit-1:
Installed: 0.105-9+devuan1
Candidate: 0.105-9+devuan1
aptitude -s install hplip
The following NEW packages will be installed:
hplip hplip-data{a} libhpmud0{a} libsane-hpaio{a} libsnmp-base{a}
libsnmp30{a} libwebpdemux1{a} libwebpmux1{a}
printer-driver-hpcups{a} python-imaging{a} python-pexpect{a}
python-pil{a} python-reportlab{a}
python-reportlab-accel{a}
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
avahi-daemon printer-driver-postscript-hp python-renderpm sane-utils
-fsmithred
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Re: [DNG] hplip need systemd
Quoting Go Linux (goli...@yahoo.com): > Indeed, cups does print. But it doesn't have perks of the HP device > manager that lets you clean/align and check the status of the > cartridges etc. At least I haven't found that in cups. In case my meaning was somehow unclear: printer-driver-hpcups and printer-driver-hpijs are the _parts_ of metapackage hplip that you and M. Bardot need. I'm not saying 'install only CUPS'. I'm saying 'install only the constituent parts of 'hplip' that you actually want. -- Cheers, A woman's place is in the House, Rick Moen the Senate, and the White House. r...@linuxmafia.com McQ! (4x80) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] hplip need systemd
On Tue, 10/4/16, Rick Moen wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] hplip need systemd To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 2:51 PM Quoting Bardot J??r??me (bardot.jer...@gmail.com): >> >> I don't know if you know but hplip need policykit and therefore systemd. >> > > You don't need _package_ HPLIP. You just need printer-driver-hpcups and > printer-driver-hpijs. Package hplip is an omnibus desktop-oriented > packaging of the HPIJS and HPLIP drivers, and therefore includes > GNOME-dependency hooks. > Indeed, cups does print. But it doesn't have perks of the HP device manager that lets you clean/align and check the status of the cartridges etc. At least I haven't found that in cups. So I'm keeping my good ol' squeeze around that has hplip installed so I access those functions should I ever need them. Related tip . . . my black cartridge dried out a few months ago. I found a youtube video that offered several suggestions how to get it working again. I chose to soak the head in warm distilled water for a few hours. It worked!! And that cartridge is still functioning months later. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] hplip need systemd
Quoting Bardot J??r??me (bardot.jer...@gmail.com): > I try to not use it on stretch, but life without network manager is not > easy :) There are several good alternatives. (I need to start keeping a list of them.) > I don't know if you know but hplip need policykit and therefore systemd. You don't need _package_ HPLIP. You just need printer-driver-hpcups and printer-driver-hpijs. Package hplip is an omnibus desktop-oriented packaging of the HPIJS and HPLIP drivers, and therefore includes GNOME-dependency hooks. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] hplip need systemd
hi, i follow since a while this mailing list. For the moment i don't use devuan but i don't like systemd. I try to not use it on stretch, but life without network manager is not easy :) I don't know if you know but hplip need policykit and therefore systemd. Do you have alternative to hplip or better can i use devuan from stretch ? Jérôme ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Please consider this thread exhausted and closed.
Hi, I do NOT want to stretch this thread for too long. I have received enough answers and currently have grub* installed to a dedicated partition that is *invisible* to all other installations on the same machine. SYSLINUX cannot boot kernels residing in other partitions other than the boot partition itself. GRUB* can boot anything whether is resides on the boot partition on not. Furthermore, it offers me the possibility of setting up a hidden bootloader that cannot be modified automatically. Since I achieved my goal with grub-efi-amd64, please, consider this thread exhausted and closed. I don't want to cause more degradation to this mailing list's signal to noise ratio. My question has been replied with the reply being Devuan will support as many bootloaders as it can to satisfy the maximum number of users. This should be enough for any reasonable person. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] What does Devuan expect from a boot-loader?
Le 04/10/2016 07:40, Edward Bartolo a écrit : Never mind, consulting the SYSLINUX documentation confirmed for another time, native EFI boot is not supported even with secure boot disabled. As I said already, Legacy Boot on HP Probook 4540s (my latest purchase), does not work. Does it mean you can't boot from an USB stick, an SD card, or a cdrom? Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
