Re: [DNG] DocSprint Devuan, December, BXL

[hellekin]

On 12/21/2016 01:09 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> 
> The concepts discussed are deep, far reaching, and branch off a long
> way from software. I have a feeling that reading this document
> carefully would teach me a lot more than software. This is a manifesto.
>

Thank you Steve, this is the most beautiful comment we've received so
far.  Sorry for the hard wording.  Some complexity requires bending the
language.  Yes, reading carefully certainly is a key to understand
careful writing.  Did you notice an Easter egg somewhere?

> One practical matter: The graphic is dysfunctional.
>  

https://bxl.dyne.org/media/moments/3-devuan-ci.pdf is more suited for
you: it's PDF so you can adjust it to the size you need, and it appears
on white (and in colors!).

Cheers,

==
hk

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Re: [DNG] DocSprint Devuan, December, BXL

[Steve Litt]

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:05:08 +0100
hellekin  wrote:


> Got news from the printer's: the books are being finalized and
> packaged, so everything is on time!  I'll post a picture as soon as I
> can.

> The finalized version of the booklet where you can read and comment
> lives at https://talk.devuan.org/t/software-freedom-your-way/592

Holy Macaroni, I think you need an IQ of 180 to read the preceding! I
skimmed it and understood most of it, but only because I've been on
this list so long that I've heard all these concepts discussed in terms
I could understand. I think somebody should write a "Cliffs Notes" for
this document, spelling out the central point or concept of each
paragraph in language a seventh grader could understand. So armed,
people of average IQ like me could then comfortably read the real
document.

I have two challenges reading the document: Wording and concepts. A lot
of the words are words I don't readily know the definitions of. Some
are Devuan-proprietary terms that must be defined. Others, in my
personal opinion, might be better changed to simpler, more common
words. Don't get me wrong: The English seems perfect, it's just above
my level and I'd feel more comfortable reading it if I'd been an
English major in college.

The concepts discussed are deep, far reaching, and branch off a long
way from software. I have a feeling that reading this document
carefully would teach me a lot more than software. This is a manifesto.

One practical matter: The

https://talk.devuan.org/uploads/default/optimized/1X/c6dce80537e1e1b4988957dd7a5f7efd35823af2_1_690x487.png

graphic is dysfunctional. Too small to read on the web page, and thanks
to its use of transparency it lacks sufficent contrast to read as its
own page. Add a layer of opaque white below everything else in the
graphic to solve this problem.
 
SteveT

Steve Litt 
December 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
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[DNG] apt configuration and repositories

[Massimiliano Baldinelli]

Hello dng! :)

Since the switch from Stretch to Ascii I noticed the lack of the long 
packages descriptions in aptitude, in fact when I did an "aptitude 
update" while still in Debian it downloaded, among the other ones, the 
Translation-en file. After I made the switch, Translation-en wasn't 
downloaded any more.


Following the apt.conf man page I also tried to put


Acquire::Languages { "environment"; "en"; };


in a file under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d, but with no apparent effect... Am I 
missing something? Apparently, aptitude is updated:


# apt-cache policy aptitude
aptitude:
  Installed: 0.8.3-1+b2
  Candidate: 0.8.3-1+b2
  Version table:
 *** 0.8.3-1+b2 500
500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Poking around /etc/apt the other question came (just my curiosity... 
^_^), about the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.list: what happens 
if I uncomment the repository it lists?


Ciao, and keep forking :)

Max.

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(registered Linux user #297134)
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Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

[Daniel Abrecht]

On 12/19/2016 10:08 PM, marc wrote:
> And completely unrelated: The devuan I have doesn't mount the
> cgroup fs (debian seems to rely on systemd to that), so if you want
> to use lxc, you might want to add
>
> mount -t cgroup cgroup /sys/fs/cgroup 
>
> to your startup scripts.

I'm using the cgroupfs-mount package for this.


regards,
Daniel Abrecht

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Re: [DNG] DocSprint Devuan, December, BXL

[Didier Kryn]

Le 20/12/2016 15:05, hellekin a écrit :

On 12/06/2016 01:13 PM, hellekin wrote:

On 11/15/2016 08:43 AM, hellekin wrote:

Dear all,

for the third moment of its research-action vector on SMALL
SINGULARITIES, Dyne:β×λ is organizing a documentation sprint for Devuan
in December in Brussels.

https://bxl.dyne.org/vectors/small-singularities

This docsprint aims to produce an introductory booklet for Devuan users
and the community, in English and hopefully other languages (e.g., French).


Got news from the printer's: the books are being finalized and packaged,
so everything is on time!  I'll post a picture as soon as I can.


to bring copies to the public event that is scheduled for
Wednesday, December 21st, 2016, from 16:00 to 19:00 at WTC Brussels in
partnership with F/LAT. (More on this later).


We made a an invitation to the event on the Dyne:β×λ list, with a small
change: it will start an hour earlier, and will be followed in the
evening by a Solstice party in the Jardins Navez where we started our
research-action vector on Small Singularities 3 months ago: that's a
nice circle closing.


Information and updates at http://bxl.dyne.org/moments/three


For those who missed it: everything not in this message was put online
there...

Here's a bit more practical information about the docsprint.  A
dedicated team of volunteers who participated in
https://talk.devuan.org/c/devuan/doc-wg made quite some progress on some
aspects of the issue #143.  As we were unable to bring people together
physically since our budget was canceled, it's quite an achievement.
Online coordination proved much slower, but as people picked up the
tasks, they could get acquainted with the power of the platform to turn
conversation into drafts and finally into shareable content.

The first page that went online was an update of the list of Devuan
blends (derivative works) at
https://devuan.org/os/partners/devuan-distros, thanks to the fantastic
work of Dev1fanboy (all times favorite Devuan cybrarian) and the people
who made these distributions possible (special thanks to fsmithred for
Refracta!)

We decided that "How to become a Devuan maintainer?" was a wrong
question (Centurion_Dan suggested that an action was more appropriate
than a role) and so Dan and Dev1fanboy (again) worked on clarifying the
processes of "How to Package for Devuan", which will appear shortly on
the site.  We hope this will start a new influx of contributors who will
feel welcome to participate in Devuan without having to wait anymore for
some authority to be bestowed on them :)

One of my personal objectives for this docsprint was to revamp the
Continuous Integration schema that illustrates how the development
platform integrates Gitlab, Jenkins, and Amprolla.  Doing so was much
fun, and with the help of Centurion_Dan I think the result is one of the
major improvements on the infrastructure documentation.  I have a
problem though: I don't know where to put it.  So far it appears in the
booklet and in the related talk.do topics.  But it should go on the
git.do somewhere and on devuan.org as well.

A lot of pending work remains.  You can see our working ground at
https://talk.devuan.org/c/devuan/doc-wg that is now public for all to
see.  We could have achieved more, but I think the participants realized
how much we can do together with this platform and the next one will be
easier.  But there's absolutely no need to wait for another docsprint to
keep things rolling.  Issue #143 is far from complete, and there are
many ways to add a piece to the puzzle.

*

The finalized version of the booklet where you can read and comment
lives at https://talk.devuan.org/t/software-freedom-your-way/592

If you prefer some fancy CSS and typography, try
https://bxl.dyne.org/actions/software-freedom-your-way or download a PDF
version at
https://bxl.dyne.org/media/actions/3-software-freedom-your-way.pdf

Dyne:β×λ heartily invite you to read the book and comment on it.  It's a
conversation starter, and a demonstration that the Devuan community is
to be made by the community.  Translators can get started with it (Aitor
will coordinate Spanish, I will do French, Florian proposed to take
German, and other translators can take it upon themselves to bring the
Little Purpy Book to life in their culture.)  There's an Easter egg in
this book that only two people so far know about, and I'm pretty sure
you will like it when you find it.  Peel your eyes!  The first person to
post on DNG about it will receive a signed copy of the Little Purpy Book
with a couple of Devuan stickers for bookmarks!

Each docsprint participant should send me (privately) their postal
address if they wish to receive a copy of the book as a humble present
for their involvement.  If you're interested in distributing more copies
and help spread the word, you're welcome to send a message to
petites-singulari...@lesoiseaux.io where we're coordinating bulk orders.

I was quite surprised that not a single person decided to 

Re: [DNG] DocSprint Devuan, December, BXL

[hellekin]

On 12/06/2016 01:13 PM, hellekin wrote:
> On 11/15/2016 08:43 AM, hellekin wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> for the third moment of its research-action vector on SMALL
>> SINGULARITIES, Dyne:β×λ is organizing a documentation sprint for Devuan
>> in December in Brussels.
>>
>> https://bxl.dyne.org/vectors/small-singularities
>>
>> This docsprint aims to produce an introductory booklet for Devuan users
>> and the community, in English and hopefully other languages (e.g., French).
>>
>

Got news from the printer's: the books are being finalized and packaged,
so everything is on time!  I'll post a picture as soon as I can.

> to bring copies to the public event that is scheduled for
> Wednesday, December 21st, 2016, from 16:00 to 19:00 at WTC Brussels in
> partnership with F/LAT. (More on this later).
>

We made a an invitation to the event on the Dyne:β×λ list, with a small
change: it will start an hour earlier, and will be followed in the
evening by a Solstice party in the Jardins Navez where we started our
research-action vector on Small Singularities 3 months ago: that's a
nice circle closing.

> 
> Information and updates at http://bxl.dyne.org/moments/three
>

For those who missed it: everything not in this message was put online
there...

Here's a bit more practical information about the docsprint.  A
dedicated team of volunteers who participated in
https://talk.devuan.org/c/devuan/doc-wg made quite some progress on some
aspects of the issue #143.  As we were unable to bring people together
physically since our budget was canceled, it's quite an achievement.
Online coordination proved much slower, but as people picked up the
tasks, they could get acquainted with the power of the platform to turn
conversation into drafts and finally into shareable content.

The first page that went online was an update of the list of Devuan
blends (derivative works) at
https://devuan.org/os/partners/devuan-distros, thanks to the fantastic
work of Dev1fanboy (all times favorite Devuan cybrarian) and the people
who made these distributions possible (special thanks to fsmithred for
Refracta!)

We decided that "How to become a Devuan maintainer?" was a wrong
question (Centurion_Dan suggested that an action was more appropriate
than a role) and so Dan and Dev1fanboy (again) worked on clarifying the
processes of "How to Package for Devuan", which will appear shortly on
the site.  We hope this will start a new influx of contributors who will
feel welcome to participate in Devuan without having to wait anymore for
some authority to be bestowed on them :)

One of my personal objectives for this docsprint was to revamp the
Continuous Integration schema that illustrates how the development
platform integrates Gitlab, Jenkins, and Amprolla.  Doing so was much
fun, and with the help of Centurion_Dan I think the result is one of the
major improvements on the infrastructure documentation.  I have a
problem though: I don't know where to put it.  So far it appears in the
booklet and in the related talk.do topics.  But it should go on the
git.do somewhere and on devuan.org as well.

A lot of pending work remains.  You can see our working ground at
https://talk.devuan.org/c/devuan/doc-wg that is now public for all to
see.  We could have achieved more, but I think the participants realized
how much we can do together with this platform and the next one will be
easier.  But there's absolutely no need to wait for another docsprint to
keep things rolling.  Issue #143 is far from complete, and there are
many ways to add a piece to the puzzle.

*

The finalized version of the booklet where you can read and comment
lives at https://talk.devuan.org/t/software-freedom-your-way/592

If you prefer some fancy CSS and typography, try
https://bxl.dyne.org/actions/software-freedom-your-way or download a PDF
version at
https://bxl.dyne.org/media/actions/3-software-freedom-your-way.pdf

Dyne:β×λ heartily invite you to read the book and comment on it.  It's a
conversation starter, and a demonstration that the Devuan community is
to be made by the community.  Translators can get started with it (Aitor
will coordinate Spanish, I will do French, Florian proposed to take
German, and other translators can take it upon themselves to bring the
Little Purpy Book to life in their culture.)  There's an Easter egg in
this book that only two people so far know about, and I'm pretty sure
you will like it when you find it.  Peel your eyes!  The first person to
post on DNG about it will receive a signed copy of the Little Purpy Book
with a couple of Devuan stickers for bookmarks!

Each docsprint participant should send me (privately) their postal
address if they wish to receive a copy of the book as a humble present
for their involvement.  If you're interested in distributing more copies
and help spread the word, you're welcome to send a message to
petites-singulari...@lesoiseaux.io where we're coordinating bulk orders.

I was quite surprised that not a single person decided to 

Re: [DNG] make a proper mirror

[Jaromil]

dear zeanmi,


On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, zea...@free.fr wrote:

> Hi !
> 
> How to make a proper mirror of https://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ?
> debmirror [wheezy] seems to fail with jessie-updates (so i mirrored width
> wget). I previously downloaded debian jessie and jessie security from
> another mirror (because it's far faster from devuan.org) and i made a merge
> with symlinks but debmirror seems to have a problem with
> merged/dists/jessie-updates (it retrieves the jessie directory).
> 
> https://auto.mirror.devuan.org/ does not support rsync, right ?

you are right in guessing, mirroring the repository is not yet
supported, for the way amprolla works. But its lead dev nextime is
working hard and almost there with version 2.0 of amprolla, which will
support also mirroring in its new course of development. Meanwhile we
have plans in place so that our infrastructure can well carry the load.

once it will be possible to do mirrors of the devuan package overlay,
this will be announced and documented. Many people around here are
asking for this.

ciao

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