[DNG] message from rdiff-backup

[Hendrik Boom]

During a backup I got the following messages:

Found interrupted initial backup. Removing...
UpdateError lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases Updated mirror temp file 
/usbackup/backup-by-rdiff/april/var/lib/dhcp/rdiff-backup.tmp.9233 does not 
match source
UpdateError log/btmp Updated mirror temp file 
/usbackup/backup-by-rdiff/april/var/log/rdiff-backup.tmp.25553 does not match 
source

Anyone know what the Update Error means?

I was backing up 

rdiff-backup --exclude-other-filesystems --preserve-numerical-ids 
--exclude-sockets --exclude /var/mail r...@topoi.pooq.com::/var 
/usbackup/backup-by-rdiff/april/var

-- hendrik

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Re: [DNG] Screensaver issues

[fsmithred]

On 04/02/2017 06:49 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> A few days ago I finally upgraded to the latest stable kernel
> 3.16.39-1+deb8u2.  Now my screensaver isn't working properly.  :(  It
> keeps losing the ability to blank the screen and now never turns off the
> monitor after that.  If I go into the screensaver settings this message
> pops up:
> 
> The XScreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0.0".
> Launch it now?
> 
> Most often when I come out of suspend the screen is blanked and I have to
> wake it up.
> 
> All minor annoyances but annoyances nonetheless.
> 
> Should I downgrade the kernel, just live with it or is there a fix?
> 
> golinux
> 
> 

Go into Settings, Session and Startup, Application Autostart and make sure
that Screensaver is checked.

That's all I can think of right now. Oh, you did reboot after the kernel
upgrade, right?

-fsr


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[DNG] problem at talk.devuan.org?

[Massimiliano Baldinelli]

Ciao!

I don't know if its' an already known issue, but since this morning I'm 
getting a SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE when browsing talk.devuan.org.


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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[Klaus Ethgen]

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Hi,

Am Mo den  3. Apr 2017 um 21:46 schrieb KatolaZ:
> > Yes. However, it didn't process my Severity.
> That's a problem with reportbug, since the list of severities does not
> match those configured in the BTS. It's my fault. I will now open a
> bug on reportbug :)

Well, I created that mail manually by using the same pseudo headers
reportbug does as I wrote it on a system where I cannot install the
devuan reportbug right now.

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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[KatolaZ]

On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:

[cut]

> 
> > You should have already received a confirmation email from the BTS
> > saying that the bug has been received and processed.
> 
> Yes. However, it didn't process my Severity.
> 

That's a problem with reportbug, since the list of severities does not
match those configured in the BTS. It's my fault. I will now open a
bug on reportbug :)

In the meanwhile, you should already be able to see your bug online
at:

  http://bugs.devuan.org/db/53/53.html

HND

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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[Klaus Ethgen]

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Hi,

Am Mo den  3. Apr 2017 um 21:26 schrieb KatolaZ:
> you should just be patient.

Yes, this is my "Bug". ;-)

> Incoming bugs are processed by a cron script, and the web pages are
> updated at a slower pace.

Ah, ok, thought it is processed by MTA directly.

> You should have already received a confirmation email from the BTS
> saying that the bug has been received and processed.

Yes. However, it didn't process my Severity.

Nice think, it has bug number 53 and is about DNS(SEC). :-)

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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[KatolaZ]

On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 09:01:37PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Doesn't seems to work. The mail (see attachment) went out but no bug is 
> opened.
>2017-04-03 21:53:05 1cv82D-0004E2-4w <= kl...@ethgen.de H=(ikki.ket) 
> [192.168.17.4] P=esmtpsa X=TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256 CV=no 
> A=plain_server:ikki S=3678 id=20170403195304.e2srg6biwapru...@ikki.ethgen.ch
>2017-04-03 21:53:08 1cv82D-0004E2-4w => sub...@bugs.devuan.org R=dnslookup 
> T=remote_smtp H=tupac2.dyne.org [178.62.188.7] 
> X=TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128 CV=yes DN="OU=Domain Control 
> Validated,OU=Gandi Standard Wildcard SSL,CN=*.dyne.org" C="250 2.0.0 Ok: 
> queued as 776B018BF8E"
> 

Hi Klaus,

you should just be patient. Incoming bugs are processed by a cron
script, and the web pages are updated at a slower pace. You should
have already received a confirmation email from the BTS saying that
the bug has been received and processed.

HH

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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 16:43:01 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message 
<20170403154301.gy7...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:

> On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 05:24:26PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> [cut]
> 
> > > 
> > > Please use both tools as much as possible and report any bugs to
> > > bugs.devuan.org ;)
> > > 
> > > HH
> > > 
> > > KatolaZ
> > > 
> > 
> > ..can the tricks in https://bugs.devuan.org/Developer.html be 
> > used by non-devuan dev people to sabotage bugs.devuan.org?  
> >
> 
> Yes, sure :)
> 
> > ..in such case it should hide behind some kinda login "door", 
> > if it's safe in the open, leave it safe in the open. ;o)
> >
> 
> Well, Debian BTS has been around for more than 20 years so far, so it
> is quite well known. We will have some problems, for sure, but we will
> do our best to minimise their impact.  Having a functional BTS
> compatible with Debian's one is vital to let developers cooperate with
> Devuan. 
> 
> > ..I ask because I cannot find Debian's "Developer.html", they have
> > similar pages going into more into a bunch of their details and 
> > less into our bug control management details.
> > 
> 
> Maybe I misunderstood your email, but are you talking about these
> files:
> 
>   https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer

..mostly this, I got thrown off looking for the English terms 
in this Norwegian language page, I missed that very bit. ;oD

>   https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control

..and a wee bit of this.  It's been a while. 

> ??? Yes, they are available to everybody, from bugs.debian.org.
> Again, debbugs (the BTS we are running) is free software. It's code is
> available to anybody, and has been used by several projects, including
> GNU. You can also download the version currently used by Debian
> through git:
> 
>   https://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source/debbugs.git/
> 
> and look into their spamassassin rules, as well.
> 
> You can't stop stupid people from doing stupid things simply by hiding
> relevant information :)

..you're right, worry about our smart clever etc enemies.

..fixing our own stupid blunders is much easier, sometimes 
we wisen up enough to fix our own blunders ourselves even 
before "we" find out. ;o)


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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[Klaus Ethgen]

Hi,

Doesn't seems to work. The mail (see attachment) went out but no bug is opened.
   2017-04-03 21:53:05 1cv82D-0004E2-4w <= kl...@ethgen.de H=(ikki.ket) 
[192.168.17.4] P=esmtpsa X=TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256 CV=no 
A=plain_server:ikki S=3678 id=20170403195304.e2srg6biwapru...@ikki.ethgen.ch
   2017-04-03 21:53:08 1cv82D-0004E2-4w => sub...@bugs.devuan.org R=dnslookup 
T=remote_smtp H=tupac2.dyne.org [178.62.188.7] 
X=TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128 CV=yes DN="OU=Domain Control 
Validated,OU=Gandi Standard Wildcard SSL,CN=*.dyne.org" C="250 2.0.0 Ok: queued 
as 776B018BF8E"

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Package: devuan-www
Severity: important

Since several months, the web page (www.devuan.org) is not viewable for
those who care about security and trust only the certificate that the
owner has access to instead of every untrusted CA.

The way to do that is DNSSEC with TLSA and thankfully, devuan does
support that.

Unfortunately, since several months, (I believe, when devuan switched to
that horrable Let's encrypt) the page doesn't match the TLSA record
anymore. That leads to a unviewable page if one cares about security.

So the TLSA record should be updated to match the SSL certificate of the
page (or the right SSL certificate should be used).

There are few solutions for this if it is really the switch to Let's
encrypt that is the cause:
- - Every time you replace the SSL certificate, update the TLSA record
  too. That is very painful as Let's encrypt drives security adabsurdum
  by replacing the certificate with every single new load. (Keep in
  mind, not everyone is checking the side every hour.) That is the most
  stupid (sorry) way.
- - Get a certificate from a more stable source that is not replacing the
  certificates that often. You still need to change the TLSA record
  every time you replace the certificate. That is, in my opinion, the
  most reliable way.
- - If you don't care about the fucked up CA stuff, just generate a self
  signed certificate and put the right stuff into TLSA record. This is
  the most honest way to go but realistically, as browser vendors seems
  to passively boycott DNSSEC, this is no way to go for a site like
  devuan.
- - The last way would be to use the CA fingerprint instead of the one of
  the actual certificate. Or use the fingerprint of the key if you don't
  change it with every certificate renewal. This is making good face on
  a bad matter but it is working too.

Regards
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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[KatolaZ]

On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 05:24:26PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

[cut]

> > 
> > Please use both tools as much as possible and report any bugs to
> > bugs.devuan.org ;)
> > 
> > HH
> > 
> > KatolaZ
> > 
> 
> ..can the tricks in https://bugs.devuan.org/Developer.html be 
> used by non-devuan dev people to sabotage bugs.devuan.org?  
>

Yes, sure :)

> ..in such case it should hide behind some kinda login "door", 
> if it's safe in the open, leave it safe in the open. ;o)
>

Well, Debian BTS has been around for more than 20 years so far, so it
is quite well known. We will have some problems, for sure, but we will
do our best to minimise their impact.  Having a functional BTS
compatible with Debian's one is vital to let developers cooperate with
Devuan. 

> ..I ask because I cannot find Debian's "Developer.html", they have
> similar pages going into more into a bunch of their details and 
> less into our bug control management details.
> 

Maybe I misunderstood your email, but are you talking about these
files:

  https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer
  https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control

??? Yes, they are available to everybody, from bugs.debian.org.
Again, debbugs (the BTS we are running) is free software. It's code is
available to anybody, and has been used by several projects, including
GNU. You can also download the version currently used by Debian through
git:

  https://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source/debbugs.git/

and look into their spamassassin rules, as well.

You can't stop stupid people from doing stupid things simply by hiding
relevant information :)

HH

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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[KatolaZ]

On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 05:01:58PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Am Mo den  3. Apr 2017 um 13:58 schrieb KatolaZ:
> > just to let you know that the Devuan's bug tracking system is finally
> > available online at:
> > 
> >   https://bugs.devuan.org
> > 
> > The system is compatible with the BTS used by Debian (we are actually
> > using the same code base), and shares the same workflow.
> 
> Thank you very much! I thought myself of implementing it but I do not
> know where to get the source base from.
> 
> Nevertheless, I might have one very urgent bugreport to file on the web
> page. (The problem that TLSA is not working) So are there metapackages
> for website?
> 

Hi,

there is devuan-www. ATM there is only a short list of packages
configured. We will put them in as soon as the need arises, I suppose.

My2Cents

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[Klaus Ethgen]

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Hi,

Am Mo den  3. Apr 2017 um 13:58 schrieb KatolaZ:
> just to let you know that the Devuan's bug tracking system is finally
> available online at:
> 
>   https://bugs.devuan.org
> 
> The system is compatible with the BTS used by Debian (we are actually
> using the same code base), and shares the same workflow.

Thank you very much! I thought myself of implementing it but I do not
know where to get the source base from.

Nevertheless, I might have one very urgent bugreport to file on the web
page. (The problem that TLSA is not working) So are there metapackages
for website?

Regards
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Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:58:12 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message 
<20170403125812.gs7...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:

> Dear Devuaners,
> 
> just to let you know that the Devuan's bug tracking system is finally
> available online at:
> 
>   https://bugs.devuan.org
> 
> The system is compatible with the BTS used by Debian (we are actually
> using the same code base), and shares the same workflow. We must thank
> golinux for the fantastic restyling of the originally pretty sparse
> webpages (it is just my fault if the restyling is not yet complete:
> please be patient, since we have been focusing more on functionality
> than on appearance).
> 
> You can report bugs by using a slightly revised version of the
> classical "reportbug" tool, which is available in
> jessie-proposed. Just add the following line to your sources.list (if
> you don'e have it):
> 
>   deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ jessie-proposed main
> 
> and, after the usual apt-get update, you should be able to install
> reportbug-6.6.3+devuan1.1. It's still pretty much Debian-branded, but
> this version of reportbug knows about bugs.devuan.org and addresses
> emails to it by default. If everything goes well, the package will
> transit to jessie soon.
> 
> Please use both tools as much as possible and report any bugs to
> bugs.devuan.org ;)
> 
> HH
> 
> KatolaZ
> 

..can the tricks in https://bugs.devuan.org/Developer.html be 
used by non-devuan dev people to sabotage bugs.devuan.org?  

..in such case it should hide behind some kinda login "door", 
if it's safe in the open, leave it safe in the open. ;o)

..I ask because I cannot find Debian's "Developer.html", they have
similar pages going into more into a bunch of their details and 
less into our bug control management details.


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[DNG] bugs.devuan.org online

[KatolaZ]

Dear Devuaners,

just to let you know that the Devuan's bug tracking system is finally
available online at:

  https://bugs.devuan.org

The system is compatible with the BTS used by Debian (we are actually
using the same code base), and shares the same workflow. We must thank
golinux for the fantastic restyling of the originally pretty sparse
webpages (it is just my fault if the restyling is not yet complete:
please be patient, since we have been focusing more on functionality
than on appearance).

You can report bugs by using a slightly revised version of the
classical "reportbug" tool, which is available in
jessie-proposed. Just add the following line to your sources.list (if
you don'e have it):

  deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ jessie-proposed main

and, after the usual apt-get update, you should be able to install
reportbug-6.6.3+devuan1.1. It's still pretty much Debian-branded, but
this version of reportbug knows about bugs.devuan.org and addresses
emails to it by default. If everything goes well, the package will
transit to jessie soon.

Please use both tools as much as possible and report any bugs to
bugs.devuan.org ;)

HH

KatolaZ

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