Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-28 Thread Florian Zieboll 
On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:17:05 -0400
Hendrik Boom  wrote:

> Along with gvfs-daemons, packagekit, packagekit-tools, and sane-utils.
> 
> I've been wondering if I need those.

I have kicked out gvfs some time ago - the only effect I noticed was,
that pcmanfm's "trash can" disappeared, as well as its "usermount"
functionality. In the meantime I have switched to the more configurable
spacefm and am quite happy with that.


> The only one I have an idea what it's for is sane-utils.  Presumably 
> access to scanners.

As mentioned on this list some days ago, sane-utils is not necessary to
run a local scanner. It provides saned to remotely access a local
scanner. I just had a look: it also includes the commands scanimage and
sane-find-scanner (which probably would work perfectly fine with a
broken libsystemd0 dependency). So the vast majority of users won't
need it. IIRC, a sane developer had replied to that thread and said
that also saned just checks for the existence of libsystemd0 but does
not need it at all. So the "dependency" is null and could be removed. 

libre Grüße,

Florian



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Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-28 Thread Ron 
On Sat, 27 May 2017 23:04:13 +0200
info at smallinnovations dot nl  wrote:

> Nice if you missed it otherwise annoying. Thunar puts deleted files 
> there, at least on my system with XFCE4 it does.

One more reason to drop Thunar and use Pcmanfm  ;-3)
 
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Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-28 Thread Ron 
On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:17:05 -0400
Hendrik Boom  wrote:

> The only one I have an idea what it's for is sane-utils.  Presumably 
> access to scanners.

I believe that one is for accessing the scanner over a network.
 
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Re: [DNG] Newbies threaten our purity :-)

2017-05-28 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl 

On 28-05-17 03:43, Hendrik Boom wrote:

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 05:02:12PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Hendrik Boom 
  wrote:


bash wasn't the original shell.


I really did start on Version 6 Unix. I think Version 7 was out by then,
but the NYIT Graphics Lab didn't ever switch their PDP-11s to it.

I think it was version 3 I started on, on a PDP-11 with about 48K or
RAM.  I'm not sure any more.  It was in 1974 or early 1975.

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I started on Unix (SunOS) in 1989 and if remembering correctly you had 
the choice between csh, Bourne shell and Korn shell. Most shellscripts 
were build for Bourne shell because most examples used that. :-)


Grtz

Nick

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Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-28 Thread Hendrik Boom 
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 11:42:32AM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote:
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> On Sat, 27 May 2017 16:49:39 -0400
> Hendrik Boom  wrote:
> 
> > Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in 
> > ~/.local/share/Trash ?
> 
> 
> Do you have gvfs installed? gvfs-trash is at least one possible
> culprit. (Not sure if there are other components to access these "trash
> piles" directly, i.e. not via "thrash://").

Yes, I do.  It's one of the few things that depeds on libsystemd0.

Along with gvfs-daemons, packagekit, packagekit-tools, and sane-utils.

I've been wondering if I need those.

The only one I have an idea what it's for is sane-utils.  Presumably 
access to scanners.

-- hendrik
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Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-28 Thread Florian Zieboll 
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On Sat, 27 May 2017 16:49:39 -0400
Hendrik Boom  wrote:

> Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in 
> ~/.local/share/Trash ?


Do you have gvfs installed? gvfs-trash is at least one possible
culprit. (Not sure if there are other components to access these "trash
piles" directly, i.e. not via "thrash://").

libre Grüße,

Florian


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Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-28 Thread Ron 
On Sat, 27 May 2017 19:48:32 -0500
goli...@dyne.org wrote:

> On Xfce here, when I right click on a file/directory, I have two 
> options:  Move to Trash and Delete.  

In Pcmanfm I have the option, in Edit => Preferences which lets me choose 
whether Delete sends to Trash, or delete.
 
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Ron.
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