Re: [DNG] lost ability to execute (somewhat resolved)
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 01:40:39PM +0100, G.W. Haywood wrote: > Hello again, > > On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, Haines Brown wrote: > > >The problem was more worked around than resolved. > > > >After having no grub modules with an installation on a new disk, whether > >DVD or netinst ISO, I knew the problem wasn't with the disk. I installed > >Devuan Jessie more or less successfully on a new disk without the old > >disk being connected. Then I reconnected the old disk and now can boot > >either operating system successfully. > > Sounds a lot like what I recommended on 4th June. :) GRUB is working fine. I can boot either disk from either GRUB menu. Why I had to isolate the target disk in order to install Devuan remains a mystery, but it does not seem to have to do with GRUB, which is working. > >Incidentally, the key on which the ISO is installed names itself UEFI. I > >have both UEFI and legacy selected in BIOS. If I have just legacy, > >nothing boots. > > I'd have expected that you could select just legacy and then do a > clean install, although I don't think I've never cared which it uses. I had tried that, but failed. Forget the error, but it may have been the blinking cursor indicating that no operating system found. The usb key from which I install describes itself as UEFI, which may make it unusable unless I have both legacy and UEFI in BIOS. I just installed Devuan on another machine that already had a Debian (Etch?) disk on it. After installation I could not boot Devaun because of partition table error. However, testdisk says the partition structure is OK. I'm doing a "deeper search". As for my main Devuan install, I'm having trouble installing the xserver. But aptitude tells me xorg is not a real package. I'm moving from Debian Wheezy 32-bit to Debuan Jessie 64-bit, and perhaps I'm missing something. Is xorg still the way to install xserver? Haines ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan ready VPS?
On 06/07/2017 10:43 AM, Emiliano Marini wrote: Yep, but often they compile and ship they're own flavours of Debian using custom kernels, and pointing apt to their own repos. Have someone tried a migration to Devuan on a DigitalOcean droplet? I have several, some with DO's debian kernel, and others with devuan's kernel. To boot devuan's kernel you just install the kernel package, and grub, and then select "DigitalOcean GrubLoader v0.2" from the droplet's kernel menu. -- Héctor González ca...@genac.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] EFI vs old BIOS booting
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 03:27:30PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > The problem was more worked around than resolved. > > After having no grub modules with an installation on a new disk, whether > DVD or netinst ISO, I knew the problem wasn't with the disk. I installed > Devuan Jessie more or less successfully on a new disk without the old > disk being connected. Then I reconnected the old disk and now can boot > either operating system successfully. > > If anyone has an idea of what might be the problem, I'd appreciate > knowing. Perhaps with both disks attached, the presence of one > preoccupies the SATA port needed by the other. > > Incidentally, the key on which the ISO is installed names itself UEFI. I > have both UEFI and legacy selected in BIOS. If I have just legacy, > nothing boots. This brings up a related issue. I have a machine with both old-style MBR (fdisk) partitioned and gpt-style (needs gdisk) partitioned disks. It boots using grub or lilo. Grub from a boot record on an MBR-partitioned disk and LILO from a boot record on a floppy drive. (I have lots of backup boot floppies in case one goes wrong) In either case, /boot and / are on software RAID partitions on the GPT drives. The GPT drives have to be GPT drives because they are large. The MBR drives are legacy drives from the old days. How would booting from the GPT drives work? It's an old machine whose BIOS looks for an MBR. I may well be forced to do this is my legacy disk drives fail. If I were to transplant my GPT-formatted drives into a modern machine that expects an EFI boot, would it just work? Or would I have to do something major -- like repartition -- that puts my data at risk? -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] lost ability to execute (somewhat resolved)
Hello again, On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, Haines Brown wrote: The problem was more worked around than resolved. After having no grub modules with an installation on a new disk, whether DVD or netinst ISO, I knew the problem wasn't with the disk. I installed Devuan Jessie more or less successfully on a new disk without the old disk being connected. Then I reconnected the old disk and now can boot either operating system successfully. Sounds a lot like what I recommended on 4th June. :) If anyone has an idea of what might be the problem, I'd appreciate knowing. I don't know for sure what the problem is, but I am fairly sure that if you read up about GRUB2 you'll get nearer to knowing. The GRUB install will look at all the discs and do what I guess somebody thought at one time were intelligent things depending on what it finds. My experience of the process has been patchy at best, especially with encrypted discs. That's why I suggested a clean install on a single newly formatted disc. Perhaps with both disks attached, the presence of one preoccupies the SATA port needed by the other. Something like that seems to me to be most unlikely. Unlike the old IDE ports, SATA ports are of course electrically completely separate. However BIOS bugs are not unknown. Incidentally, the key on which the ISO is installed names itself UEFI. I have both UEFI and legacy selected in BIOS. If I have just legacy, nothing boots. I'd have expected that you could select just legacy and then do a clean install, although I don't think I've never cared which it uses. -- 73, Ged. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
