[DNG] jessie installer bug

2018-05-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult

Hi folks,

seems I've stumbled across a bug in jessie installer:

dbus depends on libcap-ng0, which isn't available.

do I need to add debian repos to sources.list ?


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[DNG] Set keymap via preseed

2018-05-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult

Hi folks,

could anybody please give me some hints on how to set keymap
(in my case: de-latin1) via preseed ?

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Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-12 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 05/05/2018 03:13 PM, Rick Moen wrote:

> Quoting chill...@protonmail.com (chill...@protonmail.com):
>
>> At minimum, I'd like to see browsers blocking certain possibilities
>> from javascript. 
> This isn't going to be provided in the default configurations of major
> Web browsers because the firms producing and supporting them are
> financially supported by firms funded by Internet advertising and user
> tracking.
Yeah, it is the same reason as to why there is almost zero publicity
about browser fingerprinting nor any effort to properly address it only
bullshit "private browsing mode" "tracking protection" etc that doesn't
actually stop the latest and most high tech forms of tracking users.


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Re: [DNG] It's far from being over. Sigh!

2018-05-12 Thread chillfan
I never thought of it that way, now it's mentioned that seems exactly right to 
me. Again with flash, I felt this was always pushed by commercial entitites 
because it was convenient for advertisers and trackers. You basically "needed" 
it then it was used to shove ads in your face.

Some of us have started working on documenting the alternatives here:

https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/community:alternative_browsers

My favourites so far are uzbl, and netsurf.. and anything that doesn't require 
a login works well with lynx or w3m.

​Cheers,

chillfan

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On May 12, 2018 9:21 PM, taii...@gmx.com  wrote:

> On 05/05/2018 03:13 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> 
> > Quoting chill...@protonmail.com (chill...@protonmail.com):
> > 
> > > At minimum, I'd like to see browsers blocking certain possibilities
> > > from javascript. 
> > 
> > This isn't going to be provided in the default configurations of major
> > Web browsers because the firms producing and supporting them are
> > financially supported by firms funded by Internet advertising and user
> > tracking.
> 
> Yeah, it is the same reason as to why there is almost zero publicity about 
> browser fingerprinting nor any effort to properly address it only bullshit 
> "private browsing mode" "tracking protection" etc that doesn't actually stop 
> the latest and most high tech forms of tracking users.


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Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Unable to "Load missing firmware from removable media"

2018-05-12 Thread dan pridgeon



  From: "goli...@dyne.org" 
 To: dng@lists.dyne.org 
 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Unable to "Load missing firmware from removable 
media"
   
>  From: fsmithred 
>  To: dng@lists.dyne.org
>  Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:52 AM
>  Subject: Re: [DNG] Unable to "Load missing firmware from removable 
> media"
> 
> Which iso are you using, 
> 
> The firmware is in the installer isos, in /firmware. If you choose 
> expert
> install (graphical or not) and use a mirror, you will be asked if you 
> want
> non-free firmware or not. With a regular install or without a mirror, 
> the
> firmware will be installed automatically.
> 
> In the live isos, the firmware is already installed, and there's a 
> script
> to remove it if you don't want it. (Look in /root or /usr/local/bin/)
> 
> fsmithred
> ___
> 
> I'm using the netinst.iso for ASCII. (downloaded about 2-3 weeks ago)
> 

Hi Dan,

New isos with many improvements were uploaded just a few days ago for 
the release of the RC.  Try one of those to see if it's still happening.

golinux

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Thanks for the suggestion.  It occured to me  that I might be able to remove 
the Broadcom adapter card from the C700 and that the netinst.iso might then see 
the usb d-link adapter which just might work ootb.  Without changing the 
netinst.iso image, I'm now typing on  the fresh install of ascii on the C700.  
I will refresh the netinst.iso and retry with the Broadcom adapter.  Of course, 
I could now install the firmware required by the Broadcom adapter, switch in 
back in and go.  But the more important issue at this point is to get the 
netinst.iso working in the case where the sneeker net has to be used to provide 
it with the non-free licensed firmware on a removable device (usb).  Stay 
turned...


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Re: [DNG] jessie installer bug

2018-05-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 02:20:32PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult 
wrote:
> dbus depends on libcap-ng0, which isn't available.

apt-cache policy libcap-ng0
libcap-ng0:
  Installed: 0.7.4-2
  Candidate: 0.7.4-2
  Version table:
 *** 0.7.4-2 0
500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/main amd64
Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Greg


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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

2018-05-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi,

viverna writes:

> il devuanizzato Didier Kryn  il 10-05-18 17:49:42 ha scritto:
>> does the job as it always did. In case you want your system to
>> deconfigure/reconfigure Ethernet interfaces when you unplug/replug the
>> cables, then 'apt-get install ifplugd'; it's potterware but it just works.
> I prefer to use netplug:
> apt-get install netplug
> it is not potterware.

Battled Network Manager
Fought wicd
Now I have peace!
# At least for my wired interfaces

Documentation is crisp clear.  Functionality is simple.

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Re: [DNG] Congratulations! and some migration questions

2018-05-12 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Didier,

Didier Kryn writes:

> [... purge Network Manager...]
>
>   BTW, I'm not sure ifupdown and the interfaces file are installed by
> default nowadays. I don't remember which package one must install to
> have all this traditional infrastructure, though, if it's already
> installed, it won't be removed when dist-upgrading.

FYI, ifupdown is (still) installed by default but a simple `apt-get
install ifupdown` will put it in place if necessary.

# I have a habit of marking all installed automatic after the initial
# installation and configure APT to purge any unnecessary packages,
# occasionally even telling it to ignore Recommends:
# If you do that ifupdown may get purged.

>   If you have a wifi interface, it is more complicated. Explained below.
>
> 'apt-get install wpa-supplicant wpa-gui',

FTR, the package names are wpasupplicant and wpagui, without the -

> then write the following two
> lines into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:
>
> ctrl_interface=DIR=/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=dialout
> update_config=1
>
>   Make yourself a member of group dialout. Then search the web for a
> tutorial on wifi roaming with wpa_supplicant: it will explain you how to
> write the wifi part of the interfaces file. To finish with,
> 'dpkg-reconfigure ifplugd' to tell it to handle your wifi interface. Use
> wpa_gui everytime you want to connect your laptop to a yet-unknown wifi hub.

Thanks for the above.  Made my take a look at what wicd was doing under
the covers.  Should have done so a lot earlier ;-)

It puts snippets for your wireless interface(s) below
/var/lib/wicd/configurations/ and uses those to run wpa_supplicant like
so

  wpa_supplicant -B -i $if -c /var/lib/wicd/configurations/$mac

where $if is the interface name, typically wlan0.  The $mac is the MAC
address of the wireless access point, lower-cased, no : separators.

You can use the files in /var/lib/wicd/configurations/ to seed your
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicaton.conf file.

As for the group, the user that installed the system is a member of the
netdev group by default, I think.  Looks like a good default choice to
me, unless wpa_supplicant has special requirements.
Definitely more nowadaisy than dialout (or dip) :-)
BTW, group "definitions" can be found in

  file://usr/share/doc/base-password/user-and-groups.txt.gz (outdated?)
  https://wiki.debian.org/SystemGroups

I'm off now, reconfiguring my wireless setup.

Hope this helps,
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