Re: [DNG] wicd interferes with regular network admin tools

2018-05-28 Thread Andreas Messer 
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 06:42:57PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 05:21:50PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 06:05:09AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > > I was recently suprised to observe network interfaces
> > > (wlan0 and eth0) going up without my issuing commands for
> > > it. I'd disable an interface, then see it go right back up.
> > 
> > Joel, unfortunately this is the problem with "smart" tools for network
> > management: they think they know what is good for you, all the
> > time. Both wicd and nm are particularly bad at that, since they try to
> > manage network state accordingto what they have been told in their
> > config, despite anything. Dunno about conman, but I guess it works
> > along the same lines.
> 
> This is actually very puzzling: what we want, is a wrapper for iw which
> seeks available wifi networks, and provides a GUI to choose one.  The only
> reason such a tool would ever look at eth0 is to see if its link is up, and
> if so, skip wifi unless explicitly told to connect anyway.
> 
> So why do authors of such tools feel the need to control the state of
> non-wifi interfaces?

You can make nm to not handle interfaces listed in
/etc/network/interfaces. Just ensure that
/etc/Networkmanager/NetworkManager.conf contains:

[main]
plugins=ifupdown

[ifupdown]
managed=false

I think this is default config anyway. Additionally there is a "keyfile"
plugin which had a "unmanaged-devices" option. See manpage for details.

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Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2018-05-28 Thread Daniel Taylor 
Runlevels are one of those features that are hugely useful when doing 
development work, and useless almost everywhere else.


When I wasn't doing dev work I only use the default and S runlevels (or 
equivalent).


On 05/28/2018 05:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2018 17:36:33 +0300
mobinmob  wrote:


On 28/05/2018 08:54 πμ, aitor wrote:

As i said in a recent thread, you can shutdown/reboot doing (it
requires granted permissions):

runit-init 0

runit-init 6

I'm working on a logout dialog for runit with suid permissions.

Cheers,

   Aitor.

You may want to look at the relevant utilities in void:
https://github.com/voidlinux/void-runit

I use Void's runit every day (and the PID1 once every 5 to 30 days when
I reboot. I have the distinct impression that the Void folks made Runit
more complicated than it needs to be. In an effort to kinda-sorta
implement something like "runlevels" (which I never saw value in
anyway), they have symlinks to symlinks, to the point that it's hard to
know where the real file is.

This becomes a problem for me,  when I need to figure out exactly where
to put the one needed symlink (the one in the service directory) when I
add a daemon. So if anyone comes away from Void thinking runit is
complex, well, it *can* be but doesn't need to be.

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2018-05-28 Thread Steve Litt 
On Mon, 28 May 2018 17:36:33 +0300
mobinmob  wrote:

> On 28/05/2018 08:54 πμ, aitor wrote:
> >
> > As i said in a recent thread, you can shutdown/reboot doing (it 
> > requires granted permissions):
> >
> > runit-init 0
> >
> > runit-init 6
> >
> > I'm working on a logout dialog for runit with suid permissions.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >   Aitor.  
> You may want to look at the relevant utilities in void:
> https://github.com/voidlinux/void-runit

I use Void's runit every day (and the PID1 once every 5 to 30 days when
I reboot. I have the distinct impression that the Void folks made Runit
more complicated than it needs to be. In an effort to kinda-sorta
implement something like "runlevels" (which I never saw value in
anyway), they have symlinks to symlinks, to the point that it's hard to
know where the real file is.

This becomes a problem for me,  when I need to figure out exactly where
to put the one needed symlink (the one in the service directory) when I
add a daemon. So if anyone comes away from Void thinking runit is
complex, well, it *can* be but doesn't need to be.

SteveT

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http://www.troubleshooters.com/28


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Re: [DNG] Raspberrypi images

2018-05-28 Thread KatolaZ 
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 09:28:27PM +0200, Roel Wagenaar wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The images for the raspberrypi 3 are not compatible with the boot proces of 
> the
> new B+ version, both jessie and ascii will not boot.


Hi Roel,
CC: parazyd,

The ASCII RC rpi3 image:

  
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_rc/embedded/devuan_ascii_2.0.0-rc_arm64_raspi3.img.xz

has been tested and reported working for Pi3 and Pi3 B+. Please post
errors if there are any and parazyd will reply to the rest. Please CC
him to your reply.

> 
> Also both jessie and ascii images refuse to accept anything else as LANG=C, I
> can not make them obey my locale setting.
> Both /etc/locale.gen and /etc/default/locale show the proper settings.
> 
> Are this known issues?
>

The issue with locale is known and will be fixed in the upcoming ASCII
RC2.

HTH

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Raspberrypi images

2018-05-28 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg 
Did you try 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' before change LANG=C to something
else?

+1 on pi3B+ not booting though , should be fixed, also your email signature
is WAY too long
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[DNG] Raspberrypi images

2018-05-28 Thread Roel Wagenaar 
Hi all,

The images for the raspberrypi 3 are not compatible with the boot proces of the
new B+ version, both jessie and ascii will not boot.

Also both jessie and ascii images refuse to accept anything else as LANG=C, I
can not make them obey my locale setting.
Both /etc/locale.gen and /etc/default/locale show the proper settings.

Are this known issues?

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Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0 RC - Strange dependencies with FreeRadius?

2018-05-28 Thread Mike Tubby 

Yup, that made a huge improvement - thanks.

On 5/27/2018 12:16 PM, Rowland Penny wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2018 12:02:36 +0100
Mike Tubby  wrote:


I have built a new internet router/firewall box with an old Dell R610
and lots of Ethernet interfaces.

Installed Devuan Ascii 2.0 RC 'non graphical' install (no X, no
desktop), yet when I go to install FreeRADIUS server it appears to
want to pull in a load of cruft including:

* Java/JRE
* fonts, icons, themes
* GTK
* LVM
* make ???

... and more?

Broken dependencies?  Any suggestions for how to maker this sane?


Try adding '--no-install-recommends'

Rowland
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Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2018-05-28 Thread 14158 

Seems he has been acquitted:

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russias-tor-node-administrator-acquitted-terrorism-charges-61490

On 28.05.2018 16:36, mobinmob wrote:

On 28/05/2018 08:54 πμ, aitor wrote:


As i said in a recent thread, you can shutdown/reboot doing (it
requires granted permissions):

runit-init 0

runit-init 6

I'm working on a logout dialog for runit with suid permissions.

Cheers,

Aitor.

 You may want to look at the relevant utilities in void:
 https://github.com/voidlinux/void-runit [1]

Links:
--
[1] https://github.com/voidlinux/void-runit

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[DNG] DSA Jessie May28

2018-05-28 Thread leloft 
Fri, 25 May 2018 21:02:26 +
[SECURITY] [DSA 4211-1] xdg-utils security update
Binary: xdg-utils
Version: 1.1.0~rc1+git20111210-7.4+deb8u1
Confirmed: jessie-security

Fri, 25 May 2018 06:58:06 +0200
[SECURITY] [DSA 4209-1] thunderbird security update
Version: 1:52.8.0-1~deb8u1.
Confirmed: jessie-security

Tue, 22 May 2018 15:45:25 +
[SECURITY] [DSA 4208-1] procps security update
Binary: procps, libprocps3, libprocps3-dev
Version: 2:3.3.9-9+deb8u1
Confirmed: jessie-security
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[DNG] DSA Ascii May28

2018-05-28 Thread leloft 
Mon, 21 May 2018 18:47:29 +0200
[SECURITY] [DSA 4206-1] gitlab security update
Sat, 26 May 2018 13:29:30 +
[SECURITY] [DSA 4206-2] gitlab regression update
Note: The fix for CVE-2018-8971 also requires
ruby-omniauth-auth0 to be upgraded to version 2.0.0-0+deb9u1
Binary: gitlab
Version: 8.13.11+dfsg1-8+deb9u3
Confirmed: ascii-security

Fri, 25 May 2018 21:02:26 +
[SECURITY] [DSA 4211-1] xdg-utils security update
Binary: xdg-utils
Version: 1.1.1-1+deb9u1
Confirmed: ascii-security

Fri, 25 May 2018 07:00:47 +0200
[SECURITY] [DSA 4210-1] xen security update
This update provides mitigations for the Spectre v4 variant in x86-based
micro processors. On Intel CPUs this requires updated microcode which
is currently not released publicly (but your hardware vendor may have
issued an update). For servers with AMD CPUs no microcode update is
needed, please refer to https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/advisory-263.html
for further information.
Binary: libxen-4.8, libxenstore3.0, libxen-dev, xenstore-utils,
xen-utils-common, xen-utils-4.8, xen-hypervisor-4.8-amd64,
xen-system-amd64, xen-hypervisor-4.8-arm64, xen-system-arm64,
xen-hypervisor-4.8-armhf, xen-system-armhf 
Version:4.8.3+xsa262+shim4.10.0+comet3-1+deb9u7 
Confirmed: ascii-security

Fri, 25 May 2018 06:58:06 +0200
[SECURITY] [DSA 4209-1] thunderbird security update
Version: 1:52.8.0-1~deb9u1
Confirmed: ascii-security
Note: beowulf and ceres contain version 1:52.8.0-1

Tue, 22 May 2018 15:45:25 +
[SECURITY] [DSA 4208-1] procps security update
Binary: procps, libprocps6, libprocps-dev
Debian Package (patched): 2:3.3.12-3+deb9u1
Confirmed: ascii-security

Devuan Version : 2:3.3.12-3+devuan2.
Note: potential apt pinning issues.  
# apt-cache policy procps
procps:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2:3.3.12-3+devuan2
  Version table:
 2:3.3.12-3+devuan2 500
500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
 -1 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan ascii/main amd64 Packages
 2:3.3.12-3+deb9u1 500
500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main
amd64 Packages

Tue, 22 May 2018 12:59:54 +
[SECURITY] [DSA 4207-1] packagekit security update
Binary: packagekit, packagekit-tools, packagekit-docs,
libpackagekit-glib2-18, libpackagekit-glib2-dev,
gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0, packagekit-gtk3-module,
gstreamer1.0-packagekit, packagekit-command-not-found 
Version: 1.1.5-2+deb9u1 
Confirmed: ascii-security
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[DNG] [OT] Modification of audio power amplifier.

2018-05-28 Thread Edward Bartolo 
On 27/05/2018, Bruce Perens  wrote:
> I salute your amplifier for its freedom from the evil emitter-follower
> created by Professor Leonard Puttering. :-)
>

Had that been the truth, the Professor would have been a very
successful electronics engineer. Nevertheless, he has a very
attractive salary.
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Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2018-05-28 Thread aitor_czr 


El 28/05/18 a las 16:36, mobinmob escribió:

You may want to look at the relevant utilities in void:
https://github.com/voidlinux/void-runit

_
_Thanks for the link.

  Aitor._

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Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2018-05-28 Thread mobinmob 



On 28/05/2018 08:54 πμ, aitor wrote:


As i said in a recent thread, you can shutdown/reboot doing (it 
requires granted permissions):


runit-init 0

runit-init 6

I'm working on a logout dialog for runit with suid permissions.

Cheers,

  Aitor.

You may want to look at the relevant utilities in void:
https://github.com/voidlinux/void-runit
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